Clueless Gamer: "God Of War" With Bill Hader(Contains Spoilers)
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I don't find it funny, at all. It all seems like forced jokes.
But who cares? Why are people getting angry at a "comedian" making fun of a video game. We need to be better than that.
It's just not for me.
But who cares? Why are people getting angry at a "comedian" making fun of a video game. We need to be better than that.
Clearly not the only one, just look at the dislikes, but I'm glad people find it funny.
It's just not for me.
C'mon dude he's joking, stereotypes in jokes are nothing new. Is ok if you don't like it but If not insulting you have to deal with it.
I thought it was funny, and I'm a big fan of Bill Hader and Conan, but that whole "I don't think anyone plays a videogame and goes "You know what, this videogame taught me that I need to have a better relationship with my son"' is just a completely out of touch, woefully outdated viewpoint on games.
I suppose that's kinda sorta the point though, hence the "Clueless Gamer" moniker.
I suppose that's kinda sorta the point though, hence the "Clueless Gamer" moniker.
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On the flip-side, Life Is Strange taught me about depression and suicide
I ended up becoming more open with people and I constantly call my friends to ask how they are doing
I wanna go out and be among people, I want to leave the dark place my mind put me in. LiS was like a last straw before I dedicated myself to get better
Fiction can and at times does have an emotional effect on people. If it did not then we wouldn't have fiction.
Of course I'll get laughed at for this, or not and honestly, don't care anymore.
I mean, to find Conan's joke unfunny is one thing but to say he's been looking down on games as an art medium when all he's had to play is shooters, beat em ups, hack & slash and/or platformers with maybe some nice story cutscene moments is another thing. Comedy is probably a fine way to cope with virtual violence and gymnastics even if it is different from your experience at times.
I thought the ARMS episode was fucking hilarious. Arnett was fantastic.
I laughed and had a lot of the same thoughts as I played. I was worried about these supposed late spoilers but watched anyway and it didn't seem like a big deal.
I think the real issue here is that Sony shouldn't have sent their marquee title to Conan just so he can poke fun at it.
The difference between Sony games and EA/Ubisoft stuff that gets sent to Conan is that Sony actually puts an effort into crafting characters, their relationships, and its disheartening to see it get mocked or completely ignored as both Bill and Conan spend more time cracking jokes than actually paying attention to whats going on. I love Clueless gamer but he used to actually play these games and comment on what was happening, but here they are both just flat out ignoring what was happening on screen.
And thats ok. He needs to make the audience laugh. Thats his job. What's not ok is Sony taking something that 300 of their employees have put their heart and soul into making it a cut above other games in the medium when it comes to storytelling and character development and turn it into a joke.
That said, i dont work at SSM and I dont know if they found this funny or disheartening, but I am assuming they probably didnt care for it.
P.S Conan always makes fun of that guy droning on and on about the game's plot instead of just playing the game and yet this video spent two minutes just goofing around before they even brought him in. Kinda ironic. Conan needs to go back to just making this a series with him and his friend playing the game. They were more fun than having these celebrities come in and just pimp their own tv show.
The difference between Sony games and EA/Ubisoft stuff that gets sent to Conan is that Sony actually puts an effort into crafting characters, their relationships, and its disheartening to see it get mocked or completely ignored as both Bill and Conan spend more time cracking jokes than actually paying attention to whats going on. I love Clueless gamer but he used to actually play these games and comment on what was happening, but here they are both just flat out ignoring what was happening on screen.
And thats ok. He needs to make the audience laugh. Thats his job. What's not ok is Sony taking something that 300 of their employees have put their heart and soul into making it a cut above other games in the medium when it comes to storytelling and character development and turn it into a joke.
That said, i dont work at SSM and I dont know if they found this funny or disheartening, but I am assuming they probably didnt care for it.
P.S Conan always makes fun of that guy droning on and on about the game's plot instead of just playing the game and yet this video spent two minutes just goofing around before they even brought him in. Kinda ironic. Conan needs to go back to just making this a series with him and his friend playing the game. They were more fun than having these celebrities come in and just pimp their own tv show.
Lol some of the judgy ass posts in here. It must be so great to be enlightened, sniffing your own farts about how un-offended you are.
It’s fine that someone doesn’t find this funny. It really wasn’t all that funny, and I’m a HUGE Conan fan. I watched this with a group of friends initially and we all had the same reaction.
It’s fine that someone doesn’t find this funny. It really wasn’t all that funny, and I’m a HUGE Conan fan. I watched this with a group of friends initially and we all had the same reaction.
Yeah, Ubisoft put no effort into the characters in their games. What the hell am I reading?
I love God of War, but these reactions in this thread are pathetic. People joke about media all the time. Sheesh.
AC is the only series where Ubisoft actually gives a shit about character development and they typically fall short every goddamn time. It's been 9 years since AC2 and they still havent come close to creating anything as good as that original Ezio story.
Far Cry series is a joke when it comes to characters and storytelling. For Honor, Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon dont even bother. Watch Dogs is C tier storytelling like the Battlefield and CoD series.
Your reaction to these reactions is whats pathetic. A lot of the reactions in this thread have been very levelheaded. I think it's hilarious that you are getting offended at people getting offended by the video. How you dont see the irony in that is priceless.
You know this forum is full of such people. It's all about gameplay to them and that's fine if that's what they prefer. I guess Hader likes to have more control and less cutscenes too and isn't looking for anything deep, it's fine. I'm sure he wouldn't start arguing about it if someone pointed out to him that they play games for stories and can be emotionally invested in them. But yeah I would agree that some games have handled big and heavy themes and had stories with something to say or atleast giving something to think about for well over 20 years. It's not just about saving the princess. Of course sometimes the story is just fun or engaging without any heavier real life themes but still has effort put into it, like witty dialogue or flashy cinematics.
Barry has really sold me on him, didn't care about him that much before. Some funny small roles where I've seen him like in Apatow comedies. But Barry is damn good. It actually had a video game reference with "Leeroy Jenkins" too!
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Frankly, the idea that we're not allowed to poke fun at critically-acclaimed works of art is next-level absurd.
To use an example posted earlier in the thread, The Godfather is a HIGHLY parodied film. It's easily one of my top 5 favorite movies of all time, probably top 3, but it's ok to laugh at it. It's ok! I actually think Mafia! is a pretty funny movie.
To use an example posted earlier in the thread, The Godfather is a HIGHLY parodied film. It's easily one of my top 5 favorite movies of all time, probably top 3, but it's ok to laugh at it. It's ok! I actually think Mafia! is a pretty funny movie.
Okay, I struggled to make it to 5 minutes but at that mark I'm kinda offended now by Bill Hader mocking people playing video games and how no one is going to care, or even wants to care, about video games characters. Him saying no one plays a video game and learns anything is especially shitty. So I guess by that train of thought, no one's ever read a book and learnt anything. No one's watched a film and learnt anything.
This who series is pretty demeaning in general. I guess that's the point? I don't know. Conan always seems like a dick and Bill Hader apparently is one. I feel like I should be laughing by nothing they said was even remotely funny. Bill Hader is especially unfunny.
This who series is pretty demeaning in general. I guess that's the point? I don't know. Conan always seems like a dick and Bill Hader apparently is one. I feel like I should be laughing by nothing they said was even remotely funny. Bill Hader is especially unfunny.
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I love Clueless Gamer but that wasn't funny at all. In fact, it hasn't been funny since celebrities took over. There was maybe one or two that I laughed, like the one with Elijah Wood. But before that it was really funny and I looked forward to each episode.
man now people are questioning the legitimacy of parody because they can't stand an old scottish man badmouthing their favourite game in a show called clueless gamer
Not sure what is more hilarious, Clueless Gamer or the outrage comments in this thread. Lighten up people.
while the outrage is funny, it's also equally sad. i worry for some of you.
His mindset ignores the artistic achievement of narrative or "tone" games, but it also severely limits the definition of art. GaaS are often knocked for being toy-like games, merely for titillation, but the relationship between the community and the developers, where people build a product together, that is constantly evolving, is wholly unique in entertainment, and I consider that relationship to be an artistic achievement, along with the feelings that come from interactions with friends. Anything that evokes an emotional response has at least part of what art is - throw on all the objective artistry on display (designers, concept artists, sound effects, animators, musicians, etc.), and games aren't just art - they're arguably the most complete form of art because they include the audience in the process and employ every other possible kind of art we know of so far.
To be honest, movies (and to a certain extent, literature) have begun to bore me because I pretty much know what I'm going to get in ten years - the formats are pretty fixed. Games as an art form are so immensely exciting because I have no clue what they'll look like in 10 years. I can predict tech advancements, but that's about it. Something like Destiny would have been inconceivable 20 years ago - but movies haven't really changed much in that time. Games are the one art form that will constantly evolve, and that's thrilling, as a consumer of art.
It's unfortunate that many even in our community don't see the huge potential for this medium that is, more and more, being realized daily.
Man this was hilarious. Funnier than any Lets Play Youtuber who makes some cringe comedy.
They also made me really feel like a nerd for enjoying the game lol
They also made me really feel like a nerd for enjoying the game lol
Squenix flew Conan, Elijah Wood and company out to play FFXV and that resulted in an episode that was far, far, far more savage than anything we saw here, and that was with the developers in the next room. If companies are willing to work with Conan after a brutalization like that one, I think that they're a lot better at taking it all in stride than you think.
This was probably the very best Clueless gamer I've seen in a while.
Also getting real confused by the reactions of people who are upset about its depiction of "nerds" and its mockery of the game. I love God of War, I love nerds (I'm an ERA member after all). I don't think we need to worry about protecting the feelings of either. It's not like God of War isn't the biggest Sony exclusive ever released for the PS4 and it's not like nerds are the biggest contingent of pop culture fandom out there. Good comedy punches up.
Also getting real confused by the reactions of people who are upset about its depiction of "nerds" and its mockery of the game. I love God of War, I love nerds (I'm an ERA member after all). I don't think we need to worry about protecting the feelings of either. It's not like God of War isn't the biggest Sony exclusive ever released for the PS4 and it's not like nerds are the biggest contingent of pop culture fandom out there. Good comedy punches up.
Ah fuck, I thought I was safe from any big mid or late-game spoilers since Clueless Gamer is usually good about that. I’m about 15% through with the game, & it looks like they apparently
I completely regret not seeing this thread beforehand, since the video popped up in my subscription box. Welp.
spoiled the biggest reveal in the game?
DO NOT READ IF YOU CARE ABOUT ENDGAME SPOILERS
They show off Kratos using the Blades of Chaos, which he gets about 2/3 of the way through the game and was kept a complete secret prior to release. It was implied that the only weapon you would get is the Leviathan Axe.
Nah he is worse. He just wants to remain relevant and famous. He has enough money.
Oh wow I didn’t even notice in the video. Unfortunately I spoiled that for myself even before the game was officially released so no biggie for me. Others might wanna stay away then because that moment is fucking hype.
There's no such thing as "complete" or "incomplete" art.
You don't have to make games out to be some higher form of art just because some, like Conan, don't like games.
Not everyone sees media as art -- it's also just entertainment.
Well, I had two qualifiers, in "most" and "arguably." But regardless, I'm not making them out to be that - if the primary goal of art is to evoke an emotional response using images, music, sounds, narrative, characters, themes, and design, then games are art. I don't care for opera, but I don't dispute it's art.
I find it strange that any random piece of concept art would be considered art, but if you advance that image and combine it with many others, and other art forms, that questions arise.
That's not what he's saying at all. He clearly said videogames encompass numerous forms of art and passion to create, they're continually evolving, and they're interactive. Hence, art. He finds them superior since they don't have the same limitations other mediums do. Videogames can be anything. You can't play movies or books. I find every form of artistic media its own beast and I appreciate them all for their strengths but I see where he's coming from and I rather agree. There is almost no ceiling for videogames.
Whether or not games are art, it's such a stupid subject in the first place. Anyone who doesn't see videogames as art is a moron. It can't be debated whether or not they're art. Whether or not that art is for you is another subject entirely. However a medium that illicits powerful emotions in people, requires the hard work and passion of one to hundreds of people, with the outcome being a visual, interactive work of art, I'm pretty sure that medium is considered art. Hence, to deny that, is idiocy.
They're entertainment, duh, but they're also art.
That's exactly what he's saying when you point at games and say, "this is complete art" and then point to other forms of art and say, "this is incomplete because it has less components".
Indeed, it's art and it's all art equally but different and neither is more or less complete. Just different.
Just apply your "anyone who doesn't see video games as art is a moron" thought to this sentence:
It would be preposterous for me to say that about a video game because it's art.
Trying to quantify what is and isn't art like this is such a pointless argument, which you guys seem to agree, but only when it's applied to video games.
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