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CNBC: Stan Lee's daughter: 'No one could have treated my father worse than Marvel and Disney's executives'

Jessi77

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Disney didn’t mistreat Stan he was long gone from Marvel before they bought it. And Stan was the only creator from that period who made out and until his dying day was receiving profit.

As for the “video” saying he wasn’t abused? When the handlers that are accused of abusing you put together a manufactured video to say they are not, yeah burden of proof. Or when videos from POW’s claiming everything is gravy come out you believe them too? Because people in the industry that were close to Stan and saw him towards the end (like Kevin Smith) still claim he was being taken advantage of at best. She’s a parasite, she doesn’t care about respect she cares that it means there goes the meal ticket.

Most ironic is this forum tends to shit on Stan constantly acting like Kirby, Ditko, etc did everything and Stan just stole it so funny to see those same people all of a sudden care about Stan and defend his parasite daughter just so they can get shots off on Disney.

Fucking wild.
 
alexi52

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Raguel said:
People here believing his daughter, who has a history of being greedy, abusive, reckless and making up lies. Just to shit on Marvel. What a sight to behold.
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People here believing Disney, who has a history of being greedy, abusive, reckless and making up lies. Just to defend Marvel. What a sight to behold.
 
Quality Garbage

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As someone who's had to interject themselves into a situation of family elder abuse, she along with everyone else who commits these crimes deserve to be in jail.

It's sickening how much the elderly are abused and nothing gets done because people think those being abused consent to the abuse because they haven't stopped it yet.

The whole "If it was a problem why didn't they do something" victim blaming as a valid dismissal of the problem in the eyes of so many is a major problem when trying to combat the issue.

No sympathy for these leeches and deplorables.
 
Surakian

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Who is going to believe her when she was neglectful, abusive, and only cared about him when he was dying and abused by his caretakers.

Like I ain’t shilling for Disney but they owed her nothing.
 
Jiraiya

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HooAmEye said:
Yeah, it's freakin Disney and Marvel, why would this be a surprise? One is responsible for the modern hellscape of lackluster blockbusters, copyright law, and culture consumerism. The other is part of the superhero comic environment that regularly destroys talent, screws over creators, and effed up the comics market.
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Disney is responsible for other studio output too? Damn they got reach. Culture consumerism?
 
Raguel

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alexi52 said:
People here believing Disney, who has a history of being greedy, abusive, reckless and making up lies. Just to defend Marvel. What a sight to behold.
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Nah. I ain't said shit about believing or supporting Disney. Don't put words in my mouth to help your ignorant shit.

No one did actually. What people did say is to not believe a well known liar and abuser.
 
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Yerffej

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Matthew77 said:
Disney didn’t mistreat Stan he was long gone from Marvel before they bought it. And Stan was the only creator from that period who made out and until his dying day was receiving profit.

As for the “video” saying he wasn’t abused? When the handlers that are accused of abusing you put together a manufactured video to say they are not, yeah burden of proof. Or when videos from POW’s claiming everything is gravy come out you believe them too? Because people in the industry that were close to Stan and saw him towards the end (like Kevin Smith) still claim he was being taken advantage of at best. She’s a parasite, she doesn’t care about respect she cares that it means there goes the meal ticket.

Most ironic is this forum tends to shit on Stan constantly acting like Kirby, Ditko, etc did everything and Stan just stole it so funny to see those same people all of a sudden care about Stan and defend his parasite daughter just so they can get shots off on Disney.

Fucking wild.
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All I'm seeing are people shitting on the daughter for being an abuser here so far...so what are you talking about?
 
HooAmEye

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Jiraiya said:
Disney is responsible for other studio output too? Damn they got reach. Culture consumerism?
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Don't be thick. Disneyfication is a horrifying and real phenomenon, the company's litigious stance has set up some disturbing precedents for satire, and so on. Making a joke is good though too.
 
Seesaw15

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There's enough dirt on Disney to hate them on their own. You don't need to turn to an elder abuser for more ammunition.
 
Jessi77

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Yerffej said:
All I'm seeing are people shitting on the daughter for being an abuser here so far...so what are you talking about?
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So we are just going to ignore the posts that are trashing Disney marvel and anyone who’s not is somehow defending Disney /Marvel? Or the posts introducing the videos existing or the ones defending it as if that can’t be manipulated?

Just because half the posts are about his daughter doesn’t mean they all are. As for the last paragraph about how this forum usually talks about Stan it speaks for itself.
 
PlanetSmasher

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flatearthpandas said:
What a monster...
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This may sound cavalier, but expecting every company Stan's worked for to call you specifically with an official statement of grief feels a little self-centered, especially when Marvel very clearly did not ignore Stan's death and went out of their way to broadcast how important he was to the company's history.

She's making the whole thing about her.
 
Jessi77

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PlanetSmasher said:
This may sound cavalier, but expecting every company Stan's worked for to call you specifically with an official statement of grief feels a little self-centered, especially when Marvel very clearly did not ignore Stan's death and went out of their way to broadcast how important he was to the company's history.

She's making the whole thing about her.
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Two months straight of every comic just having the art and his dates replacing the titles, a tribute in the opening and a reprint of classic soapbox, yup totally ignored it.
 
Strangelove_77

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Why would you even want Stan Lee’s blood anyways? It’s not like you can show it off or anything. Well you can but everyone will think you’re a damn creep.

I’m just going to assume they want the blood so they can clone him in a few decades from now.
 
Dale Copper

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Concerning all the reports on her, why would anyone call her at all?

Marvel has shown how important Stan Lee was:

 
Katamari

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I feel so bad for Stan Lee. He seems so nice that a lot of people took advantage of him. At least his marriage was strong.
 

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I believe Marvel and also Stan Lee's daughter took gross advantage of Stan Lee's legacy. In conclusion bring back the estate tax and reduce the length of time works can stay out of the public domain.
 
Raguel

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muteKi said:
I believe Marvel and also Stan Lee's daughter took gross advantage of Stan Lee's legacy. In conclusion bring back the estate tax and reduce the length of time works can stay out of the public domain.
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No doubt. Marvel and Disney both had severe shitty practices esp with regards to artists and IP. Stan himself is a flawed man.

However this is a case of stans daughter being her usual piece of shit and making everything about her. It's literally the pot calling the kettle black.
 
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Ebullientprism

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This would mean something if it came form literally anyone else lol.
 
Nakenorm

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Yeaa, I'm gonna side with the ones who didn't steal his blood and abuse him while he was pretty much at his death bed. That lawyer and his daughter can go to hell.
 
thediamondage

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man i kinda wished i never opened this thread sucks to hear stan's personal life wasn't great. at least he had decades with his wife who seemed to truly love him and he truly loved
 
Thrill_house

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Give me a break lady. You put that poor man through the ringer before he passed. Go on with this bullshit
 
Jombie

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No one should have given her a voice - especially when it comes to the father she bled dry and manipulated.
 
HustleBun

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Really glad folks on this site already know that she has a well-documented history of manipulating the truth and abusing her father.

Even the Era Tobey-army isn't pig piling on this. I'm impressed.
 
Lothars

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ManaByte said:
Again, in the other thread about Spider-Man people kept posting a Tweet from an extreme-alt right account that is anti-Brie Larson and anti-Disney just because it supported their side of the issue..
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That doesn't say anything about this issue which has specific proof about the abuse. She definitely doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
 
Starmud

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As easy as a fandom can choose to judge all this, we will never really know all the mechanics and history between them or what it was really like. A parents relationship with a child is complicated and it’s hard to really give an outside opinion on actions that you really don’t know any context or weight of. Much less when you have fame and money mixed in.

That said, he benefited greatly from deals made with these companies even if they obviously viewed him as a product. As soulless as I think Disney is as an entertainment company, who expected them to hand hold or comfort her.
 
DanGo

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"When my father died, no one from Marvel or Disney reached out to me," Lee said. "From day one, they have commoditized my father's work and never shown him or his legacy any respect or decency. In the end, no one could have treated my father worse than Marvel and Disney's executives."
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a) She's not one to talk.

b) Stan Lee didn't need any help commoditizing himself or his work, he was pretty good at that from the start.
 
Pluto

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1. How did they they never show respect for his legacy? He was paraded around as the creator of pretty much everything (which he loved) and got more credit than he deserved to the detriment of people like Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko. He made a lot of money, he was probably treated the best out of every creator of his era.

2. Who gives a shit about her?
 
Sandfox

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PlanetSmasher said:
I guess she was expecting a "sorry for your loss" call?
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To me it sounds like she wanted control/input on anything Stan Lee that the company does.
alexi52 said:
People here believing Disney, who has a history of being greedy, abusive, reckless and making up lies. Just to defend Marvel. What a sight to behold.
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Disney hasn't even commented on this story and the stuff about her abusing Stan(which we have actual articles about) doesn't come from them, so I don't get this post.
 
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