Exactly my thought. I would be extremely fucking disappointed if Bernie said that a woman can't win; it doesn't sound like something he would say.
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CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, Bernie denies(Update: NYT & Buzzfeed Confirming)
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But can we even trust that with deepfake audio being a thing now?
I am not even a Bernie fan myself, but everytime the man gets some momentum his own party takes him down.
the same Bernie who paid women less than men in comparable positions. The Bernie who endorsed Cenk. The Bernie who had to fire staff due their use of homophobic slurs and anti-semitism even though a cursory glance at that person's history should have been red flagged before hire.
Who do you think this is from.
This isn't the DNC or other Dem institutions, this is from Warren.
I was being sarcastic, of course all guns are gonna turn on Bernie now
I will say given how easy it is to see that Warren dislikes Biden, I doubt she would be so nice to someone who said that to her.
Yup, that's probably the context if the conversation occurred at all.
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That's the thing. It's GOING to come up tomorrow in the debate unless she flatly confirms or denies this ASAP.
They're not fighting, from what I can see. We have to wait for more information on this.
I'll withold judgement, if Warren directly acknowledges this then I'll believe her, but I do think context is important. I also find it suspect that Bernie has had quite a few attacks in the last 2 or 3 weeks out of nowhere given his climb in the early states.
Next up on CNN: "Why Klobuchar is the right one for the job!"
In all seriousness, the two of them have been friends for years and I genuinely doubt he would say something like that. You can be a fan of his policies or not, but Bernie himself isn't a sexist.
In all seriousness, the two of them have been friends for years and I genuinely doubt he would say something like that. You can be a fan of his policies or not, but Bernie himself isn't a sexist.
This exactly. And some idiot is twisting it for momentary political gain.
Misogyny is an incredibly potent force in this country, and the demographic splits in 2016 honestly make me wonder if we'll see a woman President within my lifetime, but at worst Bernie would've expressed this fear with some measure of nuance.
A significant number of American men truly hate women, and that is an electoral problem. It's not a problem that's impossible to overcome; it's not a problem that we should stop trying to overcome.
A significant number of American men truly hate women, and that is an electoral problem. It's not a problem that's impossible to overcome; it's not a problem that we should stop trying to overcome.
It's a dumb thing to say given how class is part of identity politics.
They are fucking scared af holy shit
Between this and warren saying bernie sent his base out to get her things are getting desperate
Between this and warren saying bernie sent his base out to get her things are getting desperate
Warren's campaign isn't going to say a damn thing, because they want the positive press.
The media is paid to divide and conquer us plebs. We should ignore them and move on with our lives.
yeah just like she is pretending like Bernie actually instructed his volunteers to attack her gives pause
The comments were public
This is Warren's last ditch attempt to grab some of his supporters before Iowa. It's pretty standard politics from her camp. What's not standard is that Bernie is being blamed for Warren going negative, and the Bernie haters are gleeful (whether they know better or not)
umm if this is a lie than it's disgraceful dirty politics but if it's true than referring to this as "lame identity politics" is terrible on your part.
There's absolutely no way I believe this story as it stands. Saying that she may have an uphill battle due to sexism is the most likely statement, if anything along those lines were even said at all. This is some disingenuous bullshit and it's really disappointing from the Warren campaign.
Why would she instantly deny it? It's a smear in her favor. Now her confirming it or not will be more telling.
Bernie and aocs issues with hollow identity politics at the detriment of the actual issues concerning minorities are well known.
Has nothing to do with "not wanting/beliving a woman to win"
This is a smear that is based he said she said
If Warren doesn't respond to this today she'll have no choice but to respond to it during the debate.
and that would not work well for her, Bernie already has a great response
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