https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/health/juul-flavor-social-media-fda-bn/index.html
I hope this doesn't mean cig smoke everywhere outdoors again.
I hope this doesn't mean cig smoke everywhere outdoors again.
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CNN: Juul to eliminate social media accounts, stop retail sales of flavors
- Thread starter Mr. X
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Sorry but I'll take vape smoke over cigg smoke from passerbys any day of the fucking week. I don't smoke but I hate walking downwind of someone w/ a cigarette. Vapes and Cigars don't bother me but ciggs? They smell fucking terrible.
I have a coworker that smokes and every time he comes back from a break he smells up the room with that nasty shit.
#keepvaping
As for kids? Kids smoke. Kids always smoked. Kids gonna keep smoking. Sure, never go full Joe Camel but teenagers smoking doesn't shock me.
I have a coworker that smokes and every time he comes back from a break he smells up the room with that nasty shit.
#keepvaping
As for kids? Kids smoke. Kids always smoked. Kids gonna keep smoking. Sure, never go full Joe Camel but teenagers smoking doesn't shock me.
Did you miss this in the OP? Bolded.
Good, vaping is huge with kids now as far as I can tell.
Seems like a proactive move on their part to reduce underage use. They are just getting ahead of the inevitable federal mandates.
The problem is that public health officials did a great job and lowered teen smoking rates.
And then JUUL came along and got a ton of kids addicted to nicotine who would not have been smokers due to the successful public health campaign.
Good on the FDA.
Good. I am shocked by the number of "kids" that i pick up that vape these things. Just like cigs being cool forever, these are the "it" thing for adolescents. Being a Lyft driver was the only way I even knew these existed, and once I saw them once, all of a sudden they were EVERYWHERE.
From what I understand Juul uses waaaay too much Nicotine and is hella overpriced.
Would rather kids vape low/no nicotine alternatives. Local vape shops should be able to hook them up for much cheaper.
how is marketing fruit flavored tobacco most kids think isn't as bad for you not going "full Joe camel"?
Personally, I find vape smoke to be more offensive than cigarette smoke is mainly for the fact that it looks like you just walked into a patch of fog after someone exales with a vape pen.
But, whatever. If you're 18, you do you.
Smoking cigarettes isn't exactly easy to start, u give em this candy flavored stuff that's 1000000x less harsh than traditional cigarettes and they get hooked fast
Receipts?
Teenagers being irreverent with their health and doing dumb shit like smoking is as old as time. Nothing new.
I'm indifferent regarding JUUL. As long as adults have a way to obtain vape devices kids will get their hands on them.
Good now make that shit illegal to smoke in places like the cigarettes. Hate going to theme parks and other family outings and see people huffing and puffing big old vape smoke.
FDA attacking vaping seems like something Big Tobacco wanted in a very bad way. Sales must have plummeted.
Teen smoking has declined considerably. https://www.hhs.gov/ash/oah/adolescent-development/substance-use/drugs/tobacco/trends/index.html
I had to photograph back to back Sweet 16's this weekend. Not one kid went out to dinnerme, it was unreal. Compared to sweet 16's I went to growing up and everyone was smoking something.
smoking has gone down among young people. smoking isn't cool anymore because everyone knows it's bad for you and smells bad
which is why juuls are so successful
Looks like someone found their Tegridy.
Exactly what I wanted to see here.
I was gifted a Juul and about 20 carts by a friend of mine. Her 12 year old kid was selling them in school and got busted. I then gave them to a friend of mine who's still smoking
It needs to be noted that part of why vaping's huge is because it's marketed as the "safe" way to smoke.
Kids still think smoking is cool, but don't want to deal with getting addicted to nicotine. JUUL and other e-cigs are specifically geared as being that alternative.
https://www.hhs.gov/ash/oah/adolescent-development/substance-use/drugs/tobacco/trends/index.html
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/wr/mm6722a3.htm?s_cid=mm6722a3_w
JUUL wasn't introduced until 2015.
E-cigarette use went from 1.5 percent for children/teens in 2011 to 11.7 percent in 2017. Mostly due to flavored products.
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/youth_data/tobacco_use/index.htm
I'll take neither. While I do agree that vaping is great for harm reduction over smoking, before any regulations were passed, vapers used it as an example to do whatever the fuck they pleased in public spaces.
I learned this from being an Uber driver and from seeing a fast switch on construction sites.
In construction, I'd estimate 50%+ of workers smoke in some form. Many of the older workers still take their smoke breaks, but the younger generation 18 to 35 or so have rapidly switched over to using some form of e-Cig in the last two years. I think it is because they can really hide it pretty well even when working inside.
Yup. which is why they should be shut down, and why Mammoth's claims that they werent "going full Joe Camel" are rediculous.
Whod've thunk that not regulating an addictive product would lead to a bunch of kids getting addicted to it.
Yep, and the insidious part of Juul- which is the most popular, easiest to conciel- is that it has so much niccotine, which makes it addictive. At least with a pack of ciggarettes, you know when you have smoked a whole pack, and a pack of Cigs is going to run you anywhere from $6-$12, depending on where you live. Meanwhile, a pack of Juul pods is going to cost you $15 or so, and has as much niccotine as 4 packs of cigarettes. Kids are getting addicted to Juul without even realizing it, because they think it's "healthy" when compared to cigs
https://www.hhs.gov/ash/oah/adolescent-development/substance-use/drugs/tobacco/trends/index.html
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/wr/mm6722a3.htm?s_cid=mm6722a3_w
JUUL wasn't introduced until 2015.
E-cigarette use went from 1.5 percent for children/teens in 2011 to 11.7 percent in 2017. Mostly due to flavored products.
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/youth_data/tobacco_use/index.htm
Jesus Christ.
vaping started really becoming popular in like 2010-2014
thats when i noticed kids in my highshool buying those vapes/e-cigs
to blame one company, like JUUL, on the vaping trend is pretty funny, since kids have been doing it for more than a decade.
thats when i noticed kids in my highshool buying those vapes/e-cigs
to blame one company, like JUUL, on the vaping trend is pretty funny, since kids have been doing it for more than a decade.
This is the second time someone has posted in here commenting on JUUL by saying they've been scapegoated unfairly. And yet, the story itself says they are investigating all e-cig companies. So why exactly do you think they're being targeted unfairly?
This too.
Juul represents a bit over 70 percent of the e-cigarette market as of September 2018. If you're going to focus on decreasing it now, they're the focus.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/juul-e-cigarette-dominates-market-fears-parents-205001335.html
This is better than my post.
Isn't it more they don't want to inhale actual smoke more so than being addicted to nicotine? Cus JUUL is crammed with it.
I don't see why they have to pull them from convenience stores/gas stations, every one I go to has them behind the counter(just like regular cigarettes) and requires a photo ID to purchase them(just like regular cigarettes). I get they are trying to keep them from kids, but I'm not so sure that kids are easily getting them from the Chevron or whatever.
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That's how it works with addictive items. They probably have enough hooked to stay in business through internet sales and decreasing marketing expenses.
People usually form the habit of smoking when they are young. People who don't smoke in their teenage years are far less likely to start smoking when they grow older. Anything that increases the chances of young people becoming addicted to smoking is a bad thing.
Your attitude of "they've always done it, so who cares now" is pretty dumb, to be frank. The numbers have been going down significantly, even halved within certain demographics from a decade or so ago. The only numbers that are going up among middle schoolers & up is vaping. Vaping has a danger of making smoking more attractive & accepted again, which isn't a good thing when we've been making good progress in getting less and less teenagers to smoke.
If one needs a credit/debit card or such, it can affect a lot of kids' ability to purchase them. The younger someone is, the less likely they will have one.