And now, the producer of "Surviving R. Kelly" is calling Gaga out.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/09/entertainment/lady-gaga-r-kelly/
Here is their totally gross duet.
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CNN: Lady Gaga facing pressure to condemn R. Kelly (with whom she collaborated as recently as 2015) (UP: Gaga responds)
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And now, the producer of "Surviving R. Kelly" is calling Gaga out.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/09/entertainment/lady-gaga-r-kelly/
Here is their totally gross duet.
OP
OP
I should mention also, that she didn't get to put out a video with R. Kelly because it was deemed too offensive:
https://www.fuse.tv/2014/06/lady-gaga-r-kelly-do-what-u-want-video
https://www.fuse.tv/2014/06/lady-gaga-r-kelly-do-what-u-want-video
Whoa, this is actually incredibly disappointing. As is pointed out at varying points in the OP, she's such an advocate and ally, yet...this is really glaring. I really hope she speaks up, but I still think the damage is done as a lot of disturbing shit about him was known in 2015. Don't know how you can support MeToo and TimesUp while also collaborating and not speaking out about this shit :/
Please don't be a shitty person, GaGa.
Please don't be a shitty person, GaGa.
Yeah, this was a huge sellout moment for her. Rkellys shit was known but worse yet the song. You can't take cover by invoking some stupid doctor patient storyline nonsense, she has a working brain and knew it was rapey.
Celebs will say whatever they need to for fans and sales.
Celebs will say whatever they need to for fans and sales.
She's probably going to put out a public statement condemning R. Kelly very soon. But we all want to forgive her because we don't want her to be a bad person. But think about it this way. She collaborated with him in 2015. At that point, the rumors about R. Kelly had been circulating for years.
Why did she choose to work with him? Isn't it a fact that he married Aliyah when he was 27 and she was 15? That's not a rumor is it?
So if Lady Gaga comes out tomorrow and public denounced the guy, will everyone just accept it? Why didn't she use some common sense when deciding whether to work with him?
I love Gaga but she shouldn't be silent on this. She is politically and socially outspoken so to ignore this would be very dishonest.
And I know that if you personally haven't seen that side of someone who you consider a friend, it can be difficult. But it's clearly time to face some harsh truths.
And I know that if you personally haven't seen that side of someone who you consider a friend, it can be difficult. But it's clearly time to face some harsh truths.
I do think many people have their blind spots. This isnt to excuse her at all and we should hold her accountable but I guess what is the other side of the coin, we never accept a potential apology and condemnation?
Jay Z put out TWO albums with him when it was common knowledge what r kelly has been doing. This is all very old news in the music industry. It's just that this documentary is shedding so much light on it now, YEARS after the fact
Yeah, I touch upon that a little. I totally agree with you, I guess I do want to forgive her just because she's been such a power for good, lending her sizable star power to great causes, but this does need to be addressed, and I'll weigh whatever she says properly. Just sucks :/
We could say that of a TON of artists. This was well known yet tons of artists collaborated with him. Tons of people paid to go to his concerts. Tons of people all around supported him. It's fucked up
Yea she needs too. "Do What U Want" was ashamedly ruined by having him featured on the track, should've been a great song.
Why does she NEED to speak on it publicly though? It's a disgusting, dark, perverted situation and her speaking out publicly won't change or improve that. If anything I'd prefer Lady Gaga to privately reach out to some (if not all) of the victims (if she hasn't already because she's that type of person), she doesn't need any validation from the public of how she should handle a situation she wasn't involved in. The things people choose to be outraged about...
Exactly. People worked with him until it became too toxic to work with him. If working with R. Kelly hurts Jay-Z's bottom line, he'll never work with Kelly again. But that's not morality. That's just capitalism.
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she chose to believe his bullshit back then and even called out people for falsely accusing him of shit. any apology is bullshit anyways.
People were working with him when it was public knowledge he was married to alliyah, people worked with him after he pissed on some girls, we really going to single out lady Gaga when all his big time collabo partners didn't say shit?
Nah
Nah
Because she has embraced being a figurehead for a lot of social issues, as well as being a beacon for the LGBTQ+ community. People have listed plenty of stars, and they can just not talk about him or work with him anymore and people can side eye them forever. But Gaga has always be a very public figure who is very outspoken in her advocacy, unlike many of the other R Kelly collaborators, and there have been a few that have spoken out in regret and own up to it. I have no doubt she knows the importance of this from her fans, she has a bigger target painted on her than other collaborators because she so vocally speaks out against 100% of the shit he does. She NEEDS to speak out on it, and it better be fucking good.
the thing is, she didn't simply work with him. she said this-
that's defending him on a personal level, and basically calling his accusers liars. she chose to put herself in this by vouching for him like that. it doesn't really have anything to do with music.
1: She should definitely say something
2: Why is the producer going after her, that's weird
3: Kelly is hella close to getting put in jail The Jinx style isn't he
2: Why is the producer going after her, that's weird
3: Kelly is hella close to getting put in jail The Jinx style isn't he
did those people come out and say the allegations against him were false?
At this point why do something because it's EXPECTED of you? Doesn't that cheapen the effect and make it seem like she was forced to do it to save face? Why does the public need validity from her? We're all capable of being outraged by this without a public figure validating for us.
Given the charges against R Kelly and his terrible history (Aaliyah) why wouldn't she say anything here? She's a huge proponent of movements like #MeToo and #TimesUp and speaking up for the oppressed. This should be a no brainer for her brand, if nothing else.
She's not a co-conspirator in his crimes she's a fellow musician who she's done songs with and appearances on SNL with him, like many artists in the music industry. This is why her words mean something, not saying anything is acceptance.
some of you guys expect way too much from people ... honestly , Hollywood is only full of hypocrites and pieces of shit , she might issue an "apology" but you know deep down, she and everyone else in Hollywood do not regret working with people like R Kelly, Weinstein, Woody Allen , etc
In any case, I'm liking the renewed interest in R. Kelly's criminal behavior. That documentary did it's job.
Check the OP.
Check the OP.
Her apology really would not mean anything considering she:
1. Is pressured to do it
2. Defended him in the past
1. Is pressured to do it
2. Defended him in the past
False. She rejected all offers that ever came from him.
The farthest extent of their working together is a song he wrote for Destiny's Child in '98 that the group didn't even want released or put on any of their albums.
You mean that "audience have our body" weird quote? I didn't see it as defense, but if it is I agree it's fucked up.
He was on the "If I was a boy" remix, not sure how closely they worked together but there is some history there.
Well, I focused on the "R. Kelly and I have sometimes very untrue things written about us," part.
It is when it comes to things like this, or do you think Hollywood shouldn't condemn people like Mel Gibson, or Roman Polanski?
It's pretty pathetic. She made the "do what you want with my body" song and performances well after he was exposed for his behaviour too.
The fact that she straight up declined to talk about him, after positioning herself as a champion for abused women and even making a song for them, is really sad.
And don't even get me started on her close relationship with Terry Richardson. Granted he's worked with many celebrities, but he and GaGa are definitely closer considering the quantity of their work together.
The fact that she straight up declined to talk about him, after positioning herself as a champion for abused women and even making a song for them, is really sad.
And don't even get me started on her close relationship with Terry Richardson. Granted he's worked with many celebrities, but he and GaGa are definitely closer considering the quantity of their work together.
They seem to placate some people. The idea of pressuring someone to apologize seems crazy to me but whatever works.
Gaga is a well known fraud. It's something we've been talking about since she ignored the bad press that leaked bits of the DWUW video got in 2014, then went on to do a whole publicity tour on sexual assault in like 2016. She's a fake and a demon.
Let's not mention she has a long history with Terry Richardson (who she dresses up as in the above video) who is also a prolific pervert and sexual harasser.
Fuck her ENTIRE career and all that shitty music she made.
Let's not mention she has a long history with Terry Richardson (who she dresses up as in the above video) who is also a prolific pervert and sexual harasser.
Fuck her ENTIRE career and all that shitty music she made.
Hollywood should and has condemned as a whole. Why are we making individual checklists of who has and needs to speak out on any given situation? Seems very self-serving to demand a celeb acquiesce to demands of outrage and apology