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maximumzero

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2019. The year where more people than ever think the world is flat, vaccines cause autism and potentially the stupidest person ever to hold a public office is running the country.
 

GiJose

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shadowkat

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In under 20 years, the US has gone from declaring measles eradicated to the verge of a massive outbreak. Incredible.

Antivaxxers will kill so many people.
 

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Honestly. If you made the conscious decision not to vaccinate your children (and there are no mitigating circumstances) and your child becomes ill as a result of that, you should be charged with child endangerment or gross negligence of parental responsibility.

Agreed 100%. It's time to make these vaccinations a requirement. Anti-vaxxers are a threat to public health and safety, and they put their own children in harm's way for no good reason.
 

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Many antivaxxers are moving away from the autism argument and instead are clinging onto "vaccine injured" language. Which I guess vaccine injury actually has a super small occurrence rate and a government fund to deal with it, but antivaxxers are jumping on it like it's an epidemic.

The last FB thread I saw these idiots arguing in, all of them were clamouring about how they all had a child that was now "vaccined injured"(which is like 1 out of a million, lul). Gimme a break.
 
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No I know that, but any evidence that it means you are not immune? I know standard is to redo the series / boost if your titers are negative, but it was my understanding that this probably isn't the best way to determine immunity or not, it's just all we have

Well, your immune system may be strong enough to fight off the infection, but it wouldn't have specific antibodies to target the infection quickly. We know how antibodies work. There is lots of evidence behind that. What are you referencing?
 

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As the parent of a child with autism I will never not be absolutely disgusted by the way autism is looked at by the antivax community
 

GiJose

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Well, your immune system may be strong enough to fight off the infection, but it wouldn't have specific antibodies to target the infection quickly. We know how antibodies work. There is lots of evidence behind that. What are you referencing?

Eh I'm a pediatrician, going off of what an infectious disease doctor told me. I did a dive into the literature and seems like there's just not a whole lot we know about it. Obviously immunity is more complicated than just antibodies, but we're also not really exposed to these diseases much anymore, so *shrug*, although that's changing I guess.

There are definitely some people who don't express hep b surface antigen antibodies, but are immune against infection. That's a disease that's still around and there's a high rate of non responders.

That being said, if I ever test negative for titers, I'd redo the series