What does that even mean? Are we getting another plot twist that will shift the case back to this being legit happened?
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What does that even mean? Are we getting another plot twist that will shift the case back to this being legit happened?
The majority of leftist posters here have an extremely negative view of centrists and centrism.
This place is cartoonishly hard-left leaning unfortunately. Moreso than old GAF was. People like the guy a few posts back saying things like "I didn't post because I was afraid of a ban". These types of topics are not worth participating in because of that.
I maybe wouldn't go that far, but I get the feeling that some of the shittier people at GAF kinda helped balance things out. This place can definitely get pretty toxic and circlejerk-y in a way I think NeoGAF tended to avoid.
Also, I tend to be wary of people who call themselves centrists, but I don't think there's anything wrong with taking a middle ground in issues like this
This place is one of the only socially progressive gaming sites on the web, peoples tolerance for excusing racism, homophobia, transphobia and other "debate" topics is at zero.
For me:
1. Noah didn't seem all that insightful or funny when the show was on Hulu
2. CS/Viacom pulled the show from Hulu so it fell off my radar
I would guess this was the same for many ex viewers.
Boogie is a centrist like Trump is a great deal maker.
(Spoilers: He's not a centrist.)
I for one am shocked that liberals and progressives have a dim view of Centrists who want to "compromise" with a Republican party that
A)Supports Donald "Nazi's are good people" Trump
B)Allows someone like McTurtle to tear our constitution and courts to shreds
and C) Is ever increasingly supporting far right, racist, sexist, anti-LGBT, anti-equliaty religious nutbag-ism and white supremacy all with a dash of Rich douchbag worship and sacrifice to their donor gods.
I am truly shocked centrists would get laughed at and ridiculed for both sidesing and "unity".
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Now, when the GOP returns to relative sanity; sure. Until then, there can be no compromise with the right.
Not really. Most of those self described centerists are just flat out full of shit. It typically means being a Conservative, but with more low key racism rather than overt. Or they just turn out to be lying. Like staking out a centerist position where the left wing position is black lives matter, and the rightwing is the actions/rhetoric of violent Neo-Nazi gangs.
I think you are forgetting what GAF was like. I don't think ERA is all that different honestly with regards to that.
Also, most people are centrist really.. which is maintaining the status quo. Which is also a way of saying most people just want to live their lives and not be a part of the political games both parties blame.
Also, people can call you centrist for not agreeing with Democrats, when that has nothing to do with be left or centrist. Democrats don't represent all spectrums of the left just as Republicans don't represent all conservatives. It's just what we are stuck with as being viable to win.
It just means Comedy Central does not upload all their content to Youtube.
It's the story as a whole that seemed wonky. You've got two dudes out prowling at 2am in the freezing cold with bleach and a rope. They run across Jussie and know exactly who he is and decide to jump him and hurl racist and homophobic slurs at him along with, 'This is MAGA country'. They also manage to get the rope around his neck and pour bleach on him. But in all of this they somehow don't do any real damage to him. Now these dudes were so ready to start shit that they were going around in the cold with equipment to inflict some real damage and somehow didn't manage to do any of that against one person even though they did get the rope around his neck. And that was all before he was able to pop up on stage just a few days later to brag about how he fought them off and how he's now the "gay Tupac".
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Incredibly on point commentary, especially the part about confirmation bias.
Boogie isn't a centrist. Boogie is just an idiot who people that like to argue disingenuously hold up as an example of being a centrist in a sad attempt to shame anyone who doesn't share their views. That's not being progressive. That's being a dick.
The problem is centrists see the right as it was 30 years ago, not the bigoted, anti-compromise unless we get everything we want jerks they are now.
Until the right sorts itself out, centrism is not a good thing.
Exactly. Boogie being a douche bag is basically used as a cudgel on here to demonize those who don't fall completely in line.
Came to say this, I mean, in past discussions I've felt I almost had to prove I'm black and don't have some agenda when positing just because I'm not up in arms about something. But it's best not to take things too personal, I think for the most part Mods try and be just and fair, but they are humans and can be offended like any of us. Honestly, some of these topics just shouldn't be discussed on forums but face to face. Only IRL can you pick up on people's true self. But yeah, crazy story, all I'm left with is "but why" at this point? World is just getting more and more crazy.
Peace and love to everyone man...
Being a centrist in a massively conservative country as the US is just being a conservative.
There is no 'sorting itself out' for the right unless you support the social and economic structures it continues to seek to entrech day by day.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jussie-smollett-empire-nigerian-brothers-testimony-hail-may-call/
Probably had problems learning his new script. In all seriousness maybe he finally decided to talk to the police
Probably had problems learning his new script. In all seriousness maybe he finally decided to talk to the police
The problem is Boogie is not some rare exception. A significant number of self-proclaimed "moderate centrists" these days are in fact hard-line conservatives (both old-school and alt-right) that don't want to openly be so out of fear of (often rightful) ostracization. Too many people call themselves "apolitical" or "willing to consider both sides" while doing nothing but shitting on SJWs/"PC culture" and promoting "sensible" voices like Shapiro, Peterson, "rationalists" like Sargon, etc.
Era's zero-tolerance and general disdain for centrism is the byproduct of years of people increasingly losing their patience over the same bullshit song and dance over and over and over again.
I wouldn't call him a rare exception, but I wouldn't call him the norm, either. Maybe online in terms of known personalities, but that's mostly because fake "centrists" can more easily attract right wing viewers.
People who hold up Boogie as a centrist when they know in fact he's a conservative shill are being disingenuous (or willfully stupid). And you're right, there's a bunch of those faux-centrist personalities online now.
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wait til it becomes a Last Jedi thread
edit: posted without having refreshed the page after the mod post, me so sorry pls forgive
Yeah, it's weird because it's not one specific detail that made it confusing. Each one on its own seems completely believable. Even 3 or 4 of them seem believable...but then one extra one gets in and all of a sudden the whole thing falls apart.
sounds like he knows there is no where else to go but co-operate.
TMZ reporting Jussie may have hired Mark Geragos. I guess if you're going down, you might as well spend all your money too.
I was trying to imagine the kind of person that says "This is MAGA country" and it certainly wasn't a white guy from Chicago. Africans with British accents completes the mental picture and makes waaaaaay more sense, it's almost perfect.
Apparently that article says they are getting his financial records too.
Would he even get in less trouble if he admits it was fake? Seems like a lose/lose scenario
I think he's just screwed. Chicago police have put way too much effort into this.
I think you can blame the shitty initial reporting for some of this. When it first happened it was reported he was pretty hurt. Said he had broken ribs. Depending on when you started following the story, you can have a drastically different perception of events.
He might as well insist that he's telling the truth. There's at least some out there that'll keep buying it even if he's found guilty. Hell, there's people out there that still think O.J was innocent.
There's a popular theory that OJ was covering for his son, who had mental problems.
Not the first time Jussie tried to get innocent people jammed up.
https://fox8.com/2019/02/20/jussie-...ng-police-false-information-in-previous-case/
https://fox8.com/2019/02/20/jussie-...ng-police-false-information-in-previous-case/
"Mental problems" is the biggest scapegoat ever, so fuck that. All it does is stigmatize and further marginalize mental illness.
"OJ is shit" is far more plausible.
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Modern "centrists" are just closet right wingers who are terrified of people not liking them for their views.
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Era is not a hivemind. Being a centrist is ok, even if a lot of EtcetEra likes to pretend they don't really exist IRL. I would say its much more likely to find centrists when you interact with real life people vs message board members.
Maybe they can find a role for him in the upcoming Lion King movie.
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I think having your political views dictated to you by the position of the Overton window is stupid.
I also think centrists look really dumb when you pick most any serious issue and try to justify a centrist stance.
Please. Every damn thread, even when nothing's really been said, some knucklehead will feel the need to bring up centrists.
Sad to see. Guy just doesn't give a shit.
JFC guess I better scan every thread for mod posts before replying to anyone. Cuz ya know, if you don't notice it you're "ignoring" it.
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