Saudia Arabia: "Whoops. Our bad."
The West: "They apologized. Let's move on from this sad but unimportant event."
The West: "They apologized. Let's move on from this sad but unimportant event."
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CNN: Saudis preparing to admit journalist was killed
- Thread starter Dalek
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Honestly this is my point of view as well, if you can whataboutism any issue, why do we have laws to begin with? Hypocrisy should be punishable by death.
what kind of interrogation leads to death
more like tortured the man
had the intent to kill him too
more like tortured the man
had the intent to kill him too
A POTUP who declares journalists enemy of the people, goes off on WaPo. Not to mention how much money they give him and his son in law.
Might have something to do with it.
Good thing they brought the bone saw in case the interrogation went wrong.
Fuck outta here SA, they knew what was going to happen and they were banking on nobody asking questions.
Fuck outta here SA, they knew what was going to happen and they were banking on nobody asking questions.
There's no reprecautions if they admit it anyway the US will veto any and all sanctions etc. The world is still addicted to their oil.
Fan subs never stop being bad translations.
Fan subs never stop being bad translations.
To be fair, as much of a fucking piece of shit as Trump is and as despicable as this situation is, if the KSA faces no real repercussions from this from the US that's not unusual and pretty hard to blame on Trump. That's been the US's policy with dealing with Saudi Arabia for as long as I can remember. What Trump said today, although the unneeded little back and forth about if he's a US citizen or not was a bit gross, was actually 100% accurate in the way the US sees them.
it'd be *very* hard to do. Youd have to actively try to drown them. Turn a hose on and keep it near the person's nostril constantly, completely covering their mouth for quite a bit of time.
I recently chose not to comment on topics concerning my country in this forum, but I can't help but say these have been a pretty scary few days. Any semblance of hope I had in our "reformist" leader was thrown out of the window with the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. Our economy is in peril and our incompetent monarchist leaders chose to jeopardize that over some journalist, sanctions would destroy and destabilize the only semi stable region in the middle east.
That would be one way to finally do away with the Republican party. Then the Democrats can take their rightful place as America's right-wing party and you can actually get a left-leaning progressive alternative as their opposition.
I haven't done any research on this but can someone tell me why was he being interrogated to begin with?
If you know the new King and his propensity to make extremely stupid risks, it's actually not that surprising.
I'm guessing this was coordinated with the administration on some level.
Trump was transparently leaving himself multiple outs in the interview. His biggest tell was the same line as with Russia, where they "strongly denied" it.
If you're talking about Sergei Skripal, there were many sanctions placed on Russia as a result, and like here, Trump not-so-secretly defends and admires his fellow despots.
Apparently there's audio from his Apple Watch of the torture and killing.
HEART SURGERY GONE WRONG (GONE SEXUAL) (PROBE CALLED) (GOVERNMENT QUESTIONED) 1080P HD
Eh, I agree that my(the US) government's not squeaky clean here but I actually do think there's a difference between coups, killing soldiers or militants and killing a dude on a self-induced exile who's now just a journalist. Again, that's not to defend past US actions but I do feel they're different. And frankly our secret coup days seem to be behind us now, for all I know, seems to be rather overt shit now which you can hate or not, that's everyone's prerogative.
Frankly, I think everything should be overt and in the open and if you can't make your case publicly for needing to off someone whether through a drone strike, military raid or while grabbing marriage papers in your embassy you should get fucked. I can't and won't pretend to know the personal background of everyone a government's killed but if it's in your best interest to deny it then I think it's safe to say you fucked up.
Frankly, I think everything should be overt and in the open and if you can't make your case publicly for needing to off someone whether through a drone strike, military raid or while grabbing marriage papers in your embassy you should get fucked. I can't and won't pretend to know the personal background of everyone a government's killed but if it's in your best interest to deny it then I think it's safe to say you fucked up.
To be fair, you could put any Presidents name in place of Trump and it would still be true. Yes, even Obama.
The purpose of this Saudi statement will be to dissociate any responsibility for what happened from MBS and the Saudi leaders. Trump's already let drop the line of "rogue killers". It's the hallmark of murderous, corrupt governments that it is never the leader's fault. And blaming the pawns will all be good practice for Trump on how he will handle the conclusion of the Russia investigation.
It's difficult to watch the pure, shameless bullshit in service of money and the subsequent denial of justice over an atrocity.
It's difficult to watch the pure, shameless bullshit in service of money and the subsequent denial of justice over an atrocity.
Sad to see people here posting memes and gifs about this in this thread.
May Jamal rest in peace.
May Jamal rest in peace.
I feel like that's almost worse than saying they murdered him. What the fuck kind of interrogation techniques are you using that someone can killed by it?
More likely they'll say it had nothing to do with government. He was murdered but not by them. The whole thing is incredibly sad and frankly quite scary.
More likely they'll say it had nothing to do with government. He was murdered but not by them. The whole thing is incredibly sad and frankly quite scary.
Yup. from what I have seen the apparent plan is to Blame the General in charge of the operation. The Prince was caught authorizing a "kidnapping" by intel agencies. So they have their cover the stupid General acted improperly. The whole intel capture of the orders could have been staged at this point to cover for the killing
This sounds likely. Next, MBS will torture some guys until they confess they are behind the killing and then they'll be sentenced to death or disappear.