On another note. When she says that they're going to give her a new name, people do realise that Arabic names aren't Islamic names right? This obsession in forcing converts to change their names is ridiculous. So long as the name doesn't translate to something offensive, and any all names are acceptable.
Most radicals are actually converted for some weird reason and are some of the most arrogant people I have personally met. They also terrorize elders, which they feel have not lived a proper Muslim life. The fucking irony of some that 2 weeks prior was smoking, eating pork, and suddenly sees the light and needs to teach everyone else about how kufar they are.
Considering the merciless public lashing she got for calling out the Vatican about the sexual assault cover-ups 20 years ago that we as a society promptly swept under the rug all the way up until the rug wasn't touching the floor anymore, I think I'm willing to give her a pass on that.
Hmm the belief is that the Bible was altered by Constantine or others thus destroying it's original purity. Introducing uncertainties.One thing i'll never understand is how can you believe that a religion that appeared 500 years after christianity is the one true religion?It's like that old meme
He gave the word to a dude that couldn't read or write, in a cave and somehow no one else saw Gabriel?All religions are bs, but Islam just doesn't make any sense.Hmm the belief is that the Bible was altered by Constantine or others thus destroying it's original purity. Introducing uncertainties.
Therefore, the Archangel Gabriel gave again the words of god to Mohammed, so that there would be no doubt as to its authenticity.
That is why there are lots of similarities
No religion makes sense.He gave the word to a dude that couldn't read or write, in a cave and somehow no one else saw Gabriel?All religions are bs, but Islam just doesn't make any sense.
You are wrong. In Islam, Christianity and Judaism were prescribed for the people and time period that they were revealed in and Islam is the last one and perfected for all of humanity.
It's in the Quran way before the caliphate was formed.
Educate yourself before correcting others.
That we can agree on, but Islam makes the least sense and I'll never understand how people can believe that crap.
Correct and well informed post. I will just add that during the Arab expansion into the Middle East and North Africa, the people of the book were taxed a little bit more than converts. But, like you said, they were left alone. Not what happened to the Muslims that were in Spain when the caliphate was expungedI don't think that's true. Quran specifically states that Christians and Jews not to be converted to Muhammad's religion. Kafirun 109 says "To you your religion, to me mine" about their beliefs. Quran also states in same surah that everyone shall practice the religion they choose and none can interfere that. That alone shows there are no superiority between religions in Quran.
Quran never mentions Islam as Superior but as pure. Quran predicts unlike Christians and Jews, followers of Muhammed will protect their book from changes and additions. It predicts it'll remain as pure as it was when it descended. It says both testament books were corrupted with later additions but still valid holy books to people who believe them. Those people are called "Ahl-e Qutb", or "people of the book". They're considered as believers and their lives are not be interfered. All Arabic empires gave the people of the book protection to some degree but relations with European nations always complicated things.
That price must go to Mormons, hands down. Somehow arguing that Jesus discovered North America, did most of the stuff he is famous for there, and then whisked away back to ancient Palestine in time for his crucifixion.That we can agree on, but Islam makes the least sense and I'll never understand how people can believe that crap.
That we can agree on, but Islam makes the least sense and I'll never understand how people can believe that crap.
What hot takes?All religions are bullshit and Islam is no different.I don't care if you're offended by facts.Got some hot takes here, I see.
I believe that crap.
It's not enough getting awkward looks from racists at work, or being constantly demonized on Fox News.
Tell me how YOU really feel.
Why would anyone even print this...
And no, not all scripture study points to islam, I'm not sure how she got that impression.
What hot takes?All religious are bullshit and Islam is no different.I don't care if you're offended by facts.
One thing i'll never understand is how can you believe that a religion that appeared 500 years after christianity is the one true religion?It's like that old meme
This is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian's journey. All scripture study leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant.
One thing i'll never understand is how can you believe that a religion that appeared 500 years after christianity is the one true religion?It's like that old meme
The last time I heard about her on the news, she was in bad shape. Taking about how having a mental illness was ruining her life/family and she was living in a hotel room pleading for help. I guess she got it. It sucks, because I absolutely love her music.
Obviously I don't believe in christianity either since I'm an atheist.What I ment is Islam makes less sense considering it appeared 500-600 years after christianity and was obviously inspired by it.I don't think there's anything particularly different about Islam's believability compared to other religions.
Yes, it's all BS.
I don't see how Christianity is any more believable. We don't even know for sure if a historical Jesus even existed. The current Bible books clearly chosen and cannonized. Tons of internal contradictions. Myths clearly borrowed from other religions. The Trinity is a mess, etc.
What does that even matter?
Well Islam was established as an end of the road kind of religion with Muhammed being the last messenger. An end all be all affair."All scripture study leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant"
So shitting on every other religion, nice.
Obviously I don't believe in christianity either since I'm an atheist.What I ment is Islam makes less sense considering it appeared 500-600 years after christianity and was obviously inspired by it.
What does that even matter?
It wasn't inspired by it though. A continuation or evolution or the purest form of the Abrahamic religions. That firmly places Jesus into the same level as the other prophets so to speak.Obviously I don't believe in christianity either since I'm an atheist.What I ment is Islam makes less sense considering it appeared 500-600 years after christianity and was obviously inspired by it.
What does that even matter?
Ooh, this is perfect.
The Christians are the PlayStation Fanboys
The Jews are the Nintendo fanboys
The Muslims are Xbox fanboys
And the Athiests are the PC Master Race.
settle down edgelordWhat hot takes?All religions are bullshit and Islam is no different.I don't care if you're offended by facts.
What hot takes?All religions are bullshit and Islam is no different.I don't care if you're offended by facts.
Unfortunately it's not the same. Unlike subjective value assessments, religions all make claims about reality that can be objectively assessed.
It's not all opinion.
One thing i'll never understand is how can you believe that a religion that appeared 500 years after christianity is the one true religion?It's like that old meme
Nah, that's mostly just a Muslim/Christian thing. Most other religions can coexist just fine and have very syncretic followers.And to all the ignorant posters here, when you pick a religion, you have to do so by acknowledging the other religions are false, so there is nothing wrong in what she said.
They can't all be correct? It seems most of them agree on key points. The main differences seem to be in methods and traditions.Most religious people believe scripture points to the truth of their religion.
Unfortunately, they can't all be correct.
Hint: they can all be wrong.
Good for her, and what a beautiful name. That name btw cannot be phonetically pronounced in English
And to all the ignorant posters here, when you pick a religion, you have to do so by acknowledging the other religions are false, so there is nothing wrong in what she said.
I don't get this logic. You don't have to denounce other religions when you choose one. All you are doing is choosing a way of life that you feel strongly about.Isn't this essentially what everyone who believes really feels? The idea of joining a religious institution means to me you believe that above all other, so by extension, you feel you've chose the "right" answer and every other is "wrong"
It's all redundant anyway, as although I have no problem with individual belief (as long you don't ascribe to the shitty sides of a faith) the institution of all religions is rotten to the core, so don't know why anyone would willingly choose to join them.
Nah, that's mostly just a Muslim/Christian thing. Most other religions can coexist just fine and have very syncretic followers.
They can't all be correct? It seems most of them agree on key points. The main differences seem to be in methods and traditions.
I don't get this logic. You don't have to denounce other religions when you choose one. All you are doing is choosing a way of life that you feel strongly about.
It was in response to Catholic sex abuse of kids, so it was only directed at Christianity.I thought her tearing up a picture of the Pope decades ago was a rebellion against organized religion, but if it was just a rebellion against a single religion, it's less of a statement.
I'd say that award should go to any thread involving Apple/iphones or android.
Very interesting. Why, what's the phonetic transcription? What sounds would make it impossible?Good for her, and what a beautiful name. That name btw cannot be phonetically pronounced in English
Well, not all religions work like this, for example, japanese Buddhism and Shintoism aren't mutually exclusive at all. But even if this is the only possible way, it's a pretty arrogant thing to sayAnd to all the ignorant posters here, when you pick a religion, you have to do so by acknowledging the other religions are false, so there is nothing wrong in what she said.
Most religions agree on key points? I really really doubt that. Like, which?They can't all be correct? It seems most of them agree on key points. The main differences seem to be in methods and traditions.
I don't think that's true. Quran specifically states that Christians and Jews not to be converted to Muhammad's religion. Kafirun 109 says "To you your religion, to me mine" about their beliefs. Quran also states in same surah that everyone shall practice the religion they choose and none can interfere that. That alone shows there are no superiority between religions in Quran.
Quran never mentions Islam as Superior but as pure. Quran predicts unlike Christians and Jews, followers of Muhammed will protect their book from changes and additions. It predicts it'll remain as pure as it was when it descended. It says both testament books were corrupted with later additions but still valid holy books to people who believe them. Those people are called "Ahl-e Qutb", or "people of the book". They're considered as believers and their lives are not be interfered. All Arabic empires gave the people of the book protection to some degree but relations with European nations always complicated things.
9-Volt said:Islam at first was "a religion only for Arab folks, we don't need that Roman shit" but tribal conflicts and rivalry with Byzantine during the Rashidun caliphate turned it into "we're powerful and rich enough to bring Islam and Arabic language to all over the world, so let's fucking do this!"
Other religions also believe in God, no? Even then, you can take that statement to mean that you are committing to a single belief system rather than denouncing others.When you enter Islam, you say something called the Shahada, which translates to:
"There is no god but God."
So yes, you have to denounce the other regions to become a Muslim.
That there's something universal and omnipresent that runs throughout everything. The surrounding canon and practices are where the differences lie.Most religions agree on key points? I really really doubt that. Like, which?