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Cohen: "I take full responsibility for each act that I pled guilty to, the personal ones to me and those involving the President of the United States"
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I'm glad he only got 3 years because it must mean he rolled over and gave prosecutors everything they wanted. Orange man sweating bullets right now.
Lock. Him. Up.
Lock. Him. Up.
Did they just make a reference to Templeton the rat from Charlotte's Web?
In a punitive system, crimes should ideally be punished relative to the amount of harm they do. That is what is being posed here, and it's a separate argument from whether or not a punitive or rehabilitative system is better for society.
Giving Michael Cohen three years isn't reforming anything.
Apparently there was a tweet from 11:30am EST saying TRUMPO hadn't even started work yet and was locked in his room watching tv
lol
make the tweets you fat idiot
lol
make the tweets you fat idiot
people freaked out over a few hours downtime on the servers for this place haha
Except people aren't making abstract observations on the nature of a punitive system. They are repeating and reinforcing the norms behind it in their comments which, let's be honest, aren't analytically doing too much else. It's pretty much the only content in a lot of posts.
And it's that normative assertion that I've taken issue with here, and myriad other times on this site and on GAF.
I'm not saying I'm reforming anything here or that this sentence is either. In fact I'm really not sure where you're getting that idea from. What I was doing was pointing out that isn't related to what I'm taking issue with here and with the community on this site more broadly. Which is a strong attachment OT emotional, kneejerk, and punitive approaches to justice.
You can, and should, be upset that the system isn't far. But that's something else entirely than what people understand to be the basis of justice, eye for an eye vs utilitarian seeking of the public good.
In reality the justice system has elements of both and the amount either way has changed greatly over time, ironically positivism in the early 20th century made the justice system swing towards utilitarian and rehabilitation and away from putative approaches.
The president has worked almost exclusively with criminals, but we're supposed to believe his hands are clean? Even then he'd have to be the most incompetent businessperson/politician of all time for that to be true. There's a good reason why Trump has worked so hard to make the gullible disbelieve what they see with their own eyes.
The United states elected a full on criminal to the highest office of the land and it was so obvious.
The United states elected a full on criminal to the highest office of the land and it was so obvious.
Yeah the only person bigger then trump would be the actual puppet masters
But the us legal system cant do much about putin
Yeah, hard to disagree with this. But the real issue is, this says a lot about the millions of Americans that are still in support. If he didn't have millions of people backing him, he'd just be a loud guy on social media. I don't know how you go about "fixing America" with that underlying issue, but if it doesn't change, more Trumps will come along in the future, and the Electoral College will keep letting them get voted in.
Expect him to get months lopped off of that when he testifies for the prosecution in Trump's treason trial.
No, he could. But Cohen said he wouldn't accept even if he did. And it's unlikely Trump would after what's happened with Cohen.
My father in law (leftish libertarian, if you can sink your teeth into that, didn't vote Trump) recently stated that he doesn't believe the 'where there's smoke, there's fire' thing. I look forward to Christmas dinner at my house this year.
If I'm not mistaken, if you are pardoned, you no longer can assert 5th amendment privileges and can be compelled to testify about all things related to the crime, opening yourself up to more legal troubles. So, it's not quite the quick-fix that it might seem at first.
Never forget
No memes or tricks, just a good 'ol fashioned Jordan laugh reaction when I read this.
I spent 1 night in COUNTY JAIL and it was the worst experience of my life. I know 3 years seems light, but it's still going to be a goddamn nightmare for him for three years in federal prison.
Same. I was in a cell next to a dude tweaking out. He kept screaming and rubbing his piss and shit all over the walls. I saw at least two people carried away by guards for fighting. Just one day in county in a smallish area.
As happy as I am he's saying that, Cohen is a slimy fuck so I'll have to wait for the special council to make further moves or see exactly what they have corroborating it.
I won't accept Trump is fucked until Jr., Kush, or Ivanka goes down, but it's getting closer for sure.
I won't accept Trump is fucked until Jr., Kush, or Ivanka goes down, but it's getting closer for sure.
Maybe he's hanging out in Vancouver with the Huawei CFO, Meng Wanzhou, conferring with her legal team about extradition laws.
The slapstick saga of Cohen and the Moscow Trump Tower project is hilarious, and casts a lot of doubt on the idea that Trump and Putin ever had a particularly special relationship:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/trump-moscow-micheal-cohen-felix-sater-campaign
He won't. He'll get out and get propped up until he gets back on his feet because someone still owes him a favor or two.
He'll probably make a ton of money off a book deal when he gets out.
In the current time lime 3 years might as well be 300, i think he will just end up being a footnote at best
It would be some bullshit if he is just able to get away with all of this. Shit is probably going to get crazy starting this January.
Ever since the 2.0 update I've noticed that the traffic on this site has gone down quite a bit.
I think because he pled guilty, all Trump can do is commute his sentence.
