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COMICS!!!|OT| April 2019 | Legendary AF
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omg. Has the unthinkable happened? A Green Lantern comic that is actually fun? Green Lantern: Earth One was pretty decent!
All the manga posts before this post made me read this right to left.
Silver Surfer Requiem. Great read. Also, he had a pretty good run in Cover by my lord and savior, BMB.
All the manga posts before this post made me read this right to left.
Now that im almost done with Secret Wars, I kinda want to read some Fantastic Four soon. Aside from Hickman's run and Dan Slott's start, is there anything that really stands out for a newer reader? I hear great things about the Mark Waid run. Grabbed the first complete collection to see how I like it.
That MiracleMan video was pretty informative. I knew something weird had happened to the rights for Captain Marvel, but this was a pretty neat story. Wasnt Grant Morrison supposed to do some work on the book?
That MiracleMan video was pretty informative. I knew something weird had happened to the rights for Captain Marvel, but this was a pretty neat story. Wasnt Grant Morrison supposed to do some work on the book?
Yes, but it was canned before he could tag in after Gaiman, iirc. There was an unpublished script that didn't get drawn he turned in that got turned into an Annual for the Marvel rerelease that Quesda drew.
He used to paint his own pencils with a very time-consuming method. That's why Marvel would only put him on special minis.
Also, he's very selective choosing work. He's gone as far as declining or quitting projects because he felt were too derivative or they had event tie-ins.
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So, I finished Morrison JLA for the first time, and... is it weird to say I felt a little let down? Like, it most certainly wasn't bad, but usually Morrison blows me away, whereas this left me going "yeah, that was some solid comics." Though I just capped it off with the Earth 2 story, and THAT was great. (I'd say Prometheus was probably the other high point for me.)
Oh, and I carried on into Waid, which was okay. Actually kind of funny in that he and the other random fill-ins were totally trying to do their best Morrison impression there, as it all felt like much more... abstract, I guess, stories than I would normally expect from a title like Justice League. Waid did actually have a moment I appreciated though, in that intentional or not, he totally had a "coming out" scene for the superheroes revealing their identities which worked for me... until it rolled into his next arc which I found to be particularly weak.
Oh, and I carried on into Waid, which was okay. Actually kind of funny in that he and the other random fill-ins were totally trying to do their best Morrison impression there, as it all felt like much more... abstract, I guess, stories than I would normally expect from a title like Justice League. Waid did actually have a moment I appreciated though, in that intentional or not, he totally had a "coming out" scene for the superheroes revealing their identities which worked for me... until it rolled into his next arc which I found to be particularly weak.
Yeah, I think it's one of the weaker Morrison runs, myself. Not to say it was bad or anything.
I think the problem with Morrison's JLA is that Howard Porter was too inexperienced at that time. Many artists have said that Morrison writes some very demanding and challenging scripts. I can see Porter struggling to translate all of Morrison's ideas and concepts into drawings.
Yeah, the art was probably the weakest part. Porter is great now, but back then, ehhh.
How did you feel about World War 3 or Rock of Ages? Or rather, pretty much everything with Darkseid? I always hear that those are the best parts of Morrison's JLA, along with Prometheus. I havent gotten to that part yet, but I liked what ive read of it so far. The only real complaint I have is the overuse of narration bubbles, but that was the norm.
Also, did you like Waid's Tower of Babel?
I am watching the end of The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina atm. This second half of season 1 or Season 2, whatever you want to call it, has been awesome imo. I saw that it was getting mostly negative reception in the OT, but ive been really enjoying it. I think it works better as a second half to season 1 though. I really like everything they are doing with Sabrina being a "Herald of Hell". There have been 1 or 2 episodes that just felt like filler, but overall this felt really well done.
I would totally read a Sabrina comic that followed the same sort of narrative. Kinda surprised they havent just put someone else on the book since the current writer is just focused on the show.
I would totally read a Sabrina comic that followed the same sort of narrative. Kinda surprised they havent just put someone else on the book since the current writer is just focused on the show.
They were definitely solid, but yeah, that same feel I mentioned above where it was like "that was good comics, but not the top of the line stuff I'm used to from Morrison". I think the art was definitely a good part of it now that you guys bring it up though, yeah.
As for Tower of Babel it was weird for me because I had heard the part about the plans plenty of times in the past, but never the actual titular Babel bit of it, so my biggest takeaway was that all that stuff about "I stole your language!" sort of bogged down/diluted the story for me, kind of, to be honest. Feel like it didn't really need that element to work and probably could've focused a little better without it.
For sure. I think thats what people in the OT were wanting or something? The back half of this season was exactly what I wanted from this show after seeing the first season.
My thoughts as well on the run. Didn't really leave a lasting impression and taken as a whole it all kind of felt disjointed.
I think editorial mandates kind of hobbled it a bit as characters needed to be swapped around haphazardly according to their runs, which left Morrison stuck with doing a few mini arcs that kind of felt similar despite how crazy they came across individually.
Had an argument with a friend last year expressing my disappointment but he made the point it worked better for him waiting for the singles when it was releasing at the time than binging it all quickly like I did.
I think at the time Morrison's JLA probably worked a heck of a lot better than it does these days. I've seen it referred to as the first big summer blockbuster of comics. Which kinda makes sense considering it predates stuff like The Authority.
When the hell is the rest of Gaiman Miracleman coming out? It's been decades, I would have thought Marvel would be chomping at the bit to get Gaiman writing for them. Right now it seems like they're just sitting on the rights.
Gotta remember also that Morrison was the one who really redefined the modern JL. He was coming in after the more down to Earth and comedic JL that was going on at the time (which imo was great in its own right). Now all of sudden the JL was living in a space station above Earth, and Morrison was positioning them as modern days Gods, and they were doing crazy ass feats and what not. Now though we take all that for granted, so it doesn't seem as special for us now. Of course Batman is a prep time god. Of course Superman can arm wrestle angels. But coming off of the 90s series where all the heroes were dramatically depowered? It would've been a bit of shock.
Actually, in the way Morrison tells it, he was gonna pick up from when Moore quit doing the strip in Warrior. Gonna quote the man himself:
Eventually Moore picks the series back up at Eclipse Comics, and then Neil Gaiman comes and follows up there.
For me, its still heads and shoulders above all the JLA/authority/ultimates/widescreen comics that have come out since. There's a plethora of ideas in Damn near every issue that screams "COMICS!!!". I reread it about once a year or so, it's in my top ten comic book runs.
I honestly think if the art and lettering weren't so dated (for me, that aspect has aged much worse than, say, 80s comics), I would have liked it more.
I can't judge it fairly because it's totally clouded by nostalgia for me. That was the hypest stuff ever to me as a kid. I remember following Rock of Ages as it was releasing, travelling like two hours to the comic store, and the issue with the dark future utterly rocked me because it was so bleak. That along with the Busiek/Perez Avengers run that started a bit later pretty much made me go from a kid who read comics to a full-on comic book fan.
I got this one Christmas while growing up and I studied it to death. I still have it, all dog-eared and creased. Good memories:
Morrison's JLA run is so great, it's cape comics at their purest and every arc is pretty much an event comic in and of itself. The way people talk about Porter's art you'd think it was near indecipherable scribbles or something, but it's low-key great and a really nice match for the stories Morrison was telling. Like JC said, it's just pure comics for the sake of being comics.
Just say "brainstorming for our next date night." You'll be off the hook in no time.
Ah the story I heard was that Grant was the third man on tap to take over. Interesting.
Morrison JLA had the Starro invasion, right? I think that was one of the first comics I read with Aztek.
Only comic with Aztek. Minus Orlando's JLA with new Aztek.
Only comic with Aztek. Minus Orlando's JLA with new Aztek.
Morrison's JLA is plagued with poor art and I cant believe some people are comparing it favorably to The Authority/Ultimates. Its a fun comic marred by bad art which should put it at a considerably lower level in a visual medium than comics that are drawn by Frank Quitely and Bryan Hitch and you cant change my mind unless you give me money
What about JLA Earth One then? Morrison JLA WITH Quitely 🤔
honestly prefer the Howard Porter drawn issues to the non-Howard Porter drawn issues. There's such a crazy 90s ass energy to his work, all speed lines and yelling and wide eyes and imagination. Big heavy shadows, lasers with kirby dots going off on every other pages. The other Morrison JLA artists are "better", but the energy is gone. Too clean, too formal, for a book where the JLA are defending the Earth from an alien invasion on top of preparing to stop Arameggedon from annihilating the multiverse.
I really liked JLA. The art wasn't very much to my liking but it wasn't specufically Porter and more, the style and coloring of that era? Porter's faces were weird, sure, but it was pretty easy to understand what was going on compared to others. But meanwhile Morrison is just, brimming with originality and ideas. It's great.
But it did get kinda overwhelming in the fact that there's so much destruction and world-ending threats like all the time non stop
But it did get kinda overwhelming in the fact that there's so much destruction and world-ending threats like all the time non stop
Just enough for a chalupa supreme
Earth One? Never heard of it
I'd say Morrison's JLA run is still my favorite run of that series. And one of my more enjoyable Morrison runs. I like it when Morrison doesn't go too far out there. And his approach of the justice league where every arc was this monumental crisis which is why the JL even exists was great. I do enjoy the foundation he left that gave us some great Waid and Kelly runs too
In other news. Re-reading Hellboy. This is my second time reading this series. I really enjoy this chronological released Omnibus format. It helps show the evolution of the series. Plus one of the pains of mignola verse is all the minis, arcs, orders, etc. I know it's not a big thing but still nice to see it sequenced for you.
Just finished reading the Chained coffin. I feel like this is the issue where Hellboy really starts to find its groove.
In other news. Re-reading Hellboy. This is my second time reading this series. I really enjoy this chronological released Omnibus format. It helps show the evolution of the series. Plus one of the pains of mignola verse is all the minis, arcs, orders, etc. I know it's not a big thing but still nice to see it sequenced for you.
Just finished reading the Chained coffin. I feel like this is the issue where Hellboy really starts to find its groove.
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I didn't really like Morrison's JLA, I thought it was just kinda there. My favorite part by far was Earth 2.
I will say I read it after reading his Animal Man, Doom Patrol, Batman, and X-Men full runs, all of which I thought were amazing.
I will say I read it after reading his Animal Man, Doom Patrol, Batman, and X-Men full runs, all of which I thought were amazing.
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TDKR is worth watching for Bane. Yes. It is. No lies. Fuck off if you disagree.
It's completely inconsequential but very fun. Once Sandoval hops on art when they go back to Earth it becomes a set-up for the new status quo so it's not great.
I'm pretty sure I read that, Rock of Ages, and Prometheus scattershot through trades through my local library.
Fun shit
I stopped trusting Marvel to finish OHC runs when they stopped releasing the Slott ASM OHCs right before the end. They had like 2 left and just decided to skip them and do the last arc in one instead. Not to mention how they handled the Clone Conspiracy HC and the Worldwide OHC with the same issues lol.
They will probably finish Aaron's Thor since its so high profile, but even then im skeptical since its taking so long for each to come out.
They will probably finish Aaron's Thor since its so high profile, but even then im skeptical since its taking so long for each to come out.
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IT CAME OUT 5 DAYS AGO IST
Maybe you should have ordered it five days ago.
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