I don't think he was posing for that picture to make a statement or anything.
Honestly he probably had no idea what it was.
I don't think he was posing for that picture to make a statement or anything.
Mister Miracle was the shit.
You read his Black Death in America short story?Mister Miracle was the shit.
I'm ordering Omega Man soon, which I think is the last major Tom King book that I don't own?
I've not.
It's free so I'll have to read it later today.
Yeah, but few writers seem to have such a large dichotomy in quality between books that are being written at the same time
On DC Universe, is any of the comic stuff in a reading order? Like if I wanted to read all of, say, Infinite Crisis, is that in a way you could read it in order?
Someone pls cryogenically freeze me till Wild Storm #23. I can't handle those last two pages from #22.
Also, I still fucking hate ad-filled single issues. That is all.
Because it's just as stupid as the Speed Force.
I read the first issue of Goddess Mode and dug it so I bought the next two and haven't read them. I'm gonna reread the first and then read the next two.Anybody else been keeping up with High Level, Goddess Mode, or any of the other Vertigo books?
Bendis was writing Jessica Jones and Iron Man and Civil War 2 and Spider-Man all at the same time.Yeah, but few writers seem to have such a large dichotomy in quality between books that are being written at the same time
IIRC Jessica Jones came after. Bendis was writing that trash Guardians run during CW2.Because it's just as stupid as the Speed Force.
I read the first issue of Goddess Mode and dug it so I bought the next two and haven't read them. I'm gonna reread the first and then read the next two.
Bendis was writing Jessica Jones and Iron Man and Civil War 2 and Spider-Man all at the same time.
People shit on Hank Pym, but he done this shit often and better than anyone hasHeroes in Crisis just makes me angry the more I think about it.
Are you depressed? Dealing with trauma? Mentally ill? Don't go get help for it because you are doomed to become a crazy murderer who kills a bunch of innocent people.
Fuck Tom King.
Fuck this, you know damn well that not the message of it.Heroes in Crisis just makes me angry the more I think about it.
Are you depressed? Dealing with trauma? Mentally ill? Don't go get help for it because you are doomed to become a crazy murderer who kills a bunch of innocent people.
Fuck Tom King.
That's what ended up happening though.
Or this story of institutional failure of mental services have on those with mental illnessThat's what ended up happening though.
We'll see what happens in the last issue, but #8 just perpetuated the idea that people suffering from mental illness are dangerous, which is the opposite of what the story was supposed to be doing.
Or this story of institutional failure of mental services have on those with mental illness
You know that those two things aren't even related so I don't even know why you would even reach like that. If you want to talk about those two issues separately we can, but conflating the two when they aren't related is trash.Right that's why he has someone accidentally kill a whole bunch of people while trying to get help for their trauma. Like how he thinks the most beautiful and life affirming thing he can write about Superman and Lois Lane is her being graphically murdered over and over to show that Superman really worries that she'll be graphically murdered.
He should have wrote that instead of this putrid trash instead.
You know that those two things aren't even related so I don't even know why you would even reach like that. If you want to talk about those two issues separately we can, but conflating the two when they aren't related is trash.
Or this story of institutional failure of mental services have on those with mental illness
Reminds me of Ralph Dibny in 52.People shit on Hank Pym, but he done this shit often and better than anyone has
Fuck death of the author. People throw this out when they don't want to contend with the idea that they have to approach the material with authorial intent in mind. It matters far more than whatever BS pie int he sky shit you try wringing out of it with a cynical view. Too many personal factors go into readings that cite death of the author.Death of the author. The message as intended by King is practically irrelevant to how people will possibly interpret the book, especially without the context of his prior work or whatever he's said about HIC beforehand.
Read the edit. And IMO the institutional failure seems pretty clear in the work.There's a difference between seeing what the author didn't put in and seeing what was left by the author's messy handling of sensitive issues.
This hits it on the head. It's a wreck because of editorial. Toms message is alive under the weight of bad DiDio-isms out the ass.I was going to write a longer piece but it's really obvious that people, in this thread and elsewhere, don't actually pay attention to what Tom King is writing even if what he's writing is dumb. I can't take take criticism of his work seriously anymore because so many people are being either willingly disingenuous or just literally not paying attention to the things they're reading about and then complaining about online.
I agree with you 100%. I fucking despise death of the author with a burning passion.Fuck death of the author. People throw this out when they don't want to contend with the idea that they have to approach the material with authorial intent in mind. It matters far more than whatever BS pie int he sky shit you try wringing out of it with a cynical view. Too many personal factors go into readings that cite death of the author.
This discounts far too much of what goes into the sausage. I don't fuck with it or anyone that pulls out some horseshit thing that got big on TV Tropes and stuck in a niche cultural lexicon.Eh. It's honestly not even a debatable concept. People who don't know or care to follow anything King says publicly are going to read his work and potentially misinterpret it. That's just the risk you take putting your stuff out there. If it doesn't get its message across in isolation from any outside commentary or context than that's on you. /shrug
Tom King has never presented himself as smarter than he is. All he has tried to do was write about his experiences and related them to superheroes. If you feel some type of way because of the way he writes or the concepts he tackles then that says more about you.I'm saying Tom King is a bad writer who isn't nearly as smart as he thinks he is who probably has really good intentions for writing a life affirming piece of comics and ended up shitting the bed really really hard.
This fucking issue is the story of the killer wanted to get help and ended up killing a whole bunch of people instead and now he wants to kill himself.
So fuck Tom King. If he's not equipped to deal with these complex issues he should stick to Batman punching supervillains because he is 100% not talented or smart enough to write what he's trying to write.
This fucking issue is the story of the killer wanted to get help and ended up killing a whole bunch of people instead and now he wants to kill himself.
Or we can talk about how the "mental health services" have been shaped by the "garbage government" and a "capitalist system" to where their work isn't really the patients. That what a large King's work is. The effects/cost that current systems in place have had on us and our way of living.This is a trash ass message if so lol
Instead of slamming "mental health services" (which is largely doctors doing the best they can with what they have), maybe slam the garbage government and capitalist system that doesn't really give a fuck if the mentally ill suffer if there's no money to be made from helping them??? It's a thought.
Fuck death of the author. People throw this out when they don't want to contend with the idea that they have to approach the material with authorial intent in mind. It matters far more than whatever BS pie int he sky shit you try wringing out of it with a cynical view. Too many personal factors go into readings that cite death of the author.
Neither does criticism and the discussion around it. His intent is there, but he botched the execution. The difference here is I personally find far more value in what King says than Metlzer's basic ass.Do you think Brad Meltzer went into Identity Crisis intending to be as misogynistic as humanly possible with his treatment of Sue Dibny and Jean Loring? Or did he stumble into it on account of being unequipped to deal with real life issues he was unaware of due to not living them?
Fiction doesn't exist in a vacuum.
People throw this out when they don't want to contend with the idea that they have to approach the material with authorial intent in mind. It matters far more than whatever BS pie int he sky shit you try wringing out of it with a cynical view
Tom King has never presented himself as smarter than he is. All he has tried to do was write about his experiences and related them to superheroes.
And this
What you just explained was an indictment of Sanctuary and mental health services , which is the point of the whole series. Congrats, you've got it.
This discounts far too much of what goes into the sausage. I don't fuck with it or anyone that pulls out some horseshit thing that got big on TV Tropes and stuck in a niche cultural lexicon.
You can discuss and be upset at the problematic elements but to say that someones reading and author intent aren't worth consideration? That's pompous.