I kind of feel like this is the consequence of DC wanting to have their cake and eat it too with Rebirth not fully going back to pre-New 52 continuity.
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I kind of feel like this is the consequence of DC wanting to have their cake and eat it too with Rebirth not fully going back to pre-New 52 continuity.
Oh, IDK. It has it's uses and is fun to keep up with. Continuity -- underrated! I say this as a big DC guy, too!
And look where we're at now
Rebirth literally worked by bringing back continuity.
Rebirth worked with the promise of continuity and not actually fulfilling it.The quality of the stories was what kept it afloat.
sorry that i didn't look through the whole thread if this already got discussed but how did you guys like the new criminal? i started reading the old run a year ago or so and stopped after coward, because i loved the first arc so much i wanted to get the rest of the series in print form.. but after months of hoping and waiting for the old criminal comics to be reprinted in my first language i kinda gave up and started reading lawless (vol. 2) in english now and oh wow, it's fantastic. i think i love coward a tiny bit more than lawless but still it's a 10/10 comic for me.
And the quality was influenced by the renewed vigor of returned continuity. Look at Percy. Mediocre on New 52 GA, great on Rebirth GA.And look where we're at now
Rebirth worked with the promise of continuity and not actually fulfilling it.The quality of the stories was what kept it afloat.
The new issue was fucking good. I can't wait for more.
Keep going with the old ones. Each volume has a fantastic story to tell. I kept having a new favorite as I went through.
This pleases me greatly. >:) I love crime comics. Just saying crime comics gets me happy. CRIME COMICS!
Damn maybe I should check it out. Last few issues didn't gel with me much though
That made me laugh.
Everyone should read Richar Stark's Parker. Suuuch a masterfully crafted series.
Or better artists and editor. Look at Percy's work on GA with Schmidt/Ferreyra while being edited by Khouri vs literally all of of his other work in that period.
I'm almost done with my Gotham Central reread. CRIME CRIMICS
The direction of GA completely changed and leaned into the character's legacy far more than New 52 allowed. That doesn't mean better (subjective) artists and editor didn't help, but the art and editor certainly wasn't the main reason I got interested in GA Rebirth.
Sure, but if you add continuity and take away those artist and editor you would have a mediocre book again :/
Not necessarily. New 52 GA had pretty great art. As for the editor, I don't know how much input he had into the direction of the book, but I know that, at the beginning of Rebirth, Johns and each writer sat down to hammer out a new direction for each book.
Interesting to note that, while you look toward the editor/artist for Teen Titans'/Nightwing's downfall, I would point out that neither of those books in any way embraced the legacy of the teams/characters like GA did.
All I know is Benjamin Percy makes mediocre books.GA benefitted from a strong editor who knew how to utilize Percy's talents and a strong art team.No amount of continuity is gonna cover that.
If adherence to continuity was a make or break then why where books like Abnetts Titans, Bensons BoP, Jurgens Action Comics, Vendetti GLC, Early Abnett Aquaman, Blue Beetle, and etc aggressively mediocre?
Continuity is a tool for writers, but like all tools it is only useful in the hands in someone who knows how to utilise it properly. Using it properly also won't help the story if the writer is mediocre, that's all on the writer. They could ignore continuity entirely and remain mediocre.
Grabbed the Dreaming #5. I still don't like what they did to Lucien and to a lesser extent, Mervyn. Dora remains annoying, but that seems to be her character flaw so I'm kinda ok with that? It'll be better if she has a foil to challenge her. Don't think I'll continue pulling at this point, unless there are large changes in the future
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Strong editorial direction was the bedrock that Rebirth was built on - continuity wasn't the only part of that but it was a big part of it. I suspect about DCYou going "do whatever you want, let's get weird" and failing they sort of said "we're going back to basics, what's your plan?"
I'll maintain that Marvel and DC have been putting out an equal number of great books over the past few years. But the difference is that DC had a strong linewide ethos, which buoyed the mediocre books, while Marvel had no idea what they were doing and sent their also-rans out to die. Like, Jurgens on Action Comics wasn't great, but it was consistent, clear in its goals, and ran for 40+ issues with solid creatives. How often was Marvel getting past 12 issues?
That linewide ethos seems sort of frayed nowadays, which is why DC feels like it's starting to lose its luster (for me at least).
I'll maintain that Marvel and DC have been putting out an equal number of great books over the past few years. But the difference is that DC had a strong linewide ethos, which buoyed the mediocre books, while Marvel had no idea what they were doing and sent their also-rans out to die. Like, Jurgens on Action Comics wasn't great, but it was consistent, clear in its goals, and ran for 40+ issues with solid creatives. How often was Marvel getting past 12 issues?
That linewide ethos seems sort of frayed nowadays, which is why DC feels like it's starting to lose its luster (for me at least).
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...els-of-2019-from-miracleman-to-scrooge-mcduck
The Guardian has a list of comics to look forward to this year. Some interesting stuff coming up (and some on-goings I was not aware of).
Anone reading Anders Nilsen's Tongues? It looks super interesting.
http://www.whatthingsdo.com/shop/tongues-1
The Guardian has a list of comics to look forward to this year. Some interesting stuff coming up (and some on-goings I was not aware of).
Anone reading Anders Nilsen's Tongues? It looks super interesting.
http://www.whatthingsdo.com/shop/tongues-1
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Is the kid Green Lantern a new character? I should really start buying Rebirth books but I'm way behind on DC -_-
Yup. Teen lantern. She hacked a lantern ring or something
I think it would be cooler if she used one of the china knock-off rings instead but whatever
Cool! That looks like a cool roster in spite of the worst Robin.
Right. Slipped my mind.
Issue was fun though, Impulse works well with Bendis
"Hi, my name is Ed Brubaker and I fuckin love crime."
Criminal #1 was pretty good. Count me in.
I also read:
Uncanny X-Men #9 - Transitional issue, but still very enjoyable. Things are about to go even more perpendicular.
Punisher #6 - This was more fun than I expected. Rosenberg is going a good job.
Bully Wars #5 - I love this mainly for the Conley art and innovative panel layouts. They are a wonder to behold.
Criminal #1 was pretty good. Count me in.
I also read:
Uncanny X-Men #9 - Transitional issue, but still very enjoyable. Things are about to go even more perpendicular.
Punisher #6 - This was more fun than I expected. Rosenberg is going a good job.
Bully Wars #5 - I love this mainly for the Conley art and innovative panel layouts. They are a wonder to behold.
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This Knightmares arc might be what makes me give up on Tom King's Batman. This shit is miserable.
I remember there was a few plot points he straight up ignored on his books his last few years at Marvel lol.
But even then Young Justice was so good and such a positive change to the status quo that I don't mind if he ignores continuity.
He just showed up in this weeks issue of UXM. There might have been something in Blue also?
I'm really not crazy about what Orlando is doing with Jonn in the
I gave up about 10 issues ago. What's so bad about these most recent one-offs? The Gerads art was almost enough to pull me back in.
I gave up about 10 issues ago. What's so bad about these most recent one-offs? The Gerads art was almost enough to pull me back in.
Ever watch anime? Like, the long running ones. Where they introduce a plot point which is really interesting before suddenly switching to some side character you don't care about. And while you're like "Wait, what about that other really interesting thing you just did", the show's like "Well hold on let me tell you about all these other disparate plot threads which will be important later!" ?
That's what happened. Suddenly we're reading all these side stories.
This was my first issue of Criminal - absolutely no background or experience.
The first issue read great stand-alone. If you have additional experience with the series, I am sure you would get more out of it. At the end of the issue, Brubaker provides a rough overview of the previous releases and what narrative ground they covered. Issue #2 will apparently not directly involve what occurred in issue #1, so this new series will skip around a lot and focus on various characters.
That's likely the case, yeah. There is connectivity in criminal, but each volume previously was readable completely standalone. I'd image that'll be the case here.
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Speaking of work, my second job gave me a project translating articles and interviews with Japanese musicians. It's the first project they've given me that isn't smut!
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