Don't forget Daredevil by Bendis Vol. 2, Doom Patrol by Byrne, Wonder Woman by Gail Simone, and Harley Quinn and the Gotham City Sirens ' omnibi. Feb. 2020 is going to be packed...
Don't forget Daredevil by Bendis Vol. 2, Doom Patrol by Byrne, Wonder Woman by Gail Simone, and Harley Quinn and the Gotham City Sirens ' omnibi. Feb. 2020 is going to be packed...
Don't forget Daredevil by Bendis Vol. 2, Doom Patrol by Byrne, Wonder Woman by Gail Simone, and Harley Quinn and the Gotham City Sirens ' omnibi. Feb. 2020 is going to be packed...
Don't forget Daredevil by Bendis Vol. 2, Doom Patrol by Byrne, Wonder Woman by Gail Simone, and Harley Quinn and the Gotham City Sirens ' omnibi. Feb. 2020 is going to be packed...
I'm actually curious.
What do folks think are the logistical faults in comics? Nothing to do with writing, purely in how they're delivered/structured/packaged as products.
Must be terrible going through life with opinions this bad.
Conan is great stuff. Black Knight could NEVER.
for me tom and zendaya actually felt like two awkward teens with a thing for each other while garfield and stone felt like two actors utilizing a trope
that kiss zendaya gives tom was, like, the realest depiction of a teen romance I've personally seen in a movie
feeling second hand embarrassment for them speaks to the authenticity of what they did
....No thanks lol. And I don't remember feeling that way about Garfield/Stone at all in that first film. It was cute.
I'm actually curious.
What do folks think are the logistical faults in comics? Nothing to do with writing, purely in how they're delivered/structured/packaged as products.
I could basically just write DIAMOND and it would be accurate, but there's lots and lots of stuff.
- Books are non-returnable. This makes everything a gamble for stores, because they have to guess how many they want so they're not left with stock they can't shift. The Big Bang tweets are a great example.
- Floppies are just a poor quality physical product. There's room for physical media, but it has to be nice, it can't just be okay. That's why the CD has dropped off while there's still a market for vinyl even in the face of streaming.
- Digital should be cheaper on release date, but you can't do that without disrupting the market as it is which could be disastrous.
- There are lots of books that are solicited as monthlies that really should go straight to trade, or be sold as an anthology-style format of a TPB-sized thing with 5-6 books. I got into comics through the UK reprints, which were (and still are) 3-4 issues with a cardstock cover at roughly the price of one floppy.
- There are so, so many books where I think it's fair to ask "Who is the market for this?" It's not like you're printing groundbreaking stuff. I'm talking stuff like when Deadpool and the Mercs for Money was a thing for three months and they greenlit like four books off the back of that. I also think things like Marvel putting off their kids line to IDW is wack, but that's a whole other story.
Basically, even with multiple billion-dollar movies per year, it is a miracle anyone gets into comics in 2019 and that's really telling. There's a generation of kids who've realised $4 for 22 pages is a cod and they're reading manga and the occasional thing they see in a regular book store, not a comic store.
Conan feels like one of those things I can't get into because I missed the era. Visually the dude looks boring af.
I could basically just write DIAMOND and it would be accurate, but there's lots and lots of stuff.
- Books are non-returnable. This makes everything a gamble for stores, because they have to guess how many they want so they're not left with stock they can't shift. The Big Bang tweets are a great example.
- Floppies are just a poor quality physical product. There's room for physical media, but it has to be nice, it can't just be okay. That's why the CD has dropped off while there's still a market for vinyl even in the face of streaming.
- Digital should be cheaper on release date, but you can't do that without disrupting the market as it is which could be disastrous.
- There are lots of books that are solicited as monthlies that really should go straight to trade, or be sold as an anthology-style format of a TPB-sized thing with 5-6 books. I got into comics through the UK reprints, which were (and still are) 3-4 issues with a cardstock cover at roughly the price of one floppy.
- There are so, so many books where I think it's fair to ask "Who is the market for this?" It's not like you're printing groundbreaking stuff. I'm talking stuff like when Deadpool and the Mercs for Money was a thing for three months and they greenlit like four books off the back of that. I also think things like Marvel putting off their kids line to IDW is wack, but that's a whole other story.
Basically, even with multiple billion-dollar movies per year, it is a miracle anyone gets into comics in 2019 and that's really telling. There's a generation of kids who've realised $4 for 22 pages is a cod and they're reading manga and the occasional thing they see in a regular book store, not a comic store.
Wait what is the Harley/Sirens Omni? Different from the current Gotham City Sirens one?
That Gotham City Sirens omni is already out. Is it gone oop?
It's a reissue due to Birds of Prey.
That era being...1932?
I still put the dark horse Conan stories over the Marvel stuff so far, but as far as "sword and sorcery" style stuff goes it's amazing content across the board. Doesn't hurt that Conan completely avoids the dull as dishwater arthurian legend tropes in favor of far more exotic locales of the middle east, africa, high seas, etc. quite frequently.
They're spending so much time with teenage Peter Parker but what if Holland decides to retire from the role after a decade. Are we going to get a Peter that doesn't even graduate college? 🤔
I'm sure I saw a reprint solicited not long ago. They did the same thing with the Grayson omnibus shortly after it came out.
It's magazines that surprise me. There's no reason for those to still be a thing.
That era being...1932?
I still put the dark horse Conan stories over the Marvel stuff so far, but as far as "sword and sorcery" style stuff goes it's amazing content across the board. Doesn't hurt that Conan completely avoids the dull as dishwater arthurian legend tropes in favor of far more exotic locales of the middle east, africa, high seas, etc. quite frequently.
Its extremely fun stuff. It's a lot of worldbuilding, mystery, that sort of thing more than knights in armor hacking away at each other. I'd avoid anything with Conan in 616, because that's just ludicrous and misses the point, but his own books are filling a niche that's sorely missed.
It's magazines that surprise me. There's no reason for those to still be a thing.
Lol at 1932. I agree that DH Conan has been better so far but they also had years to cover a ton of stories. I'm also a big fan of how Conan incorporates the exotic stuff. Reading a million stories about dragons and knights can't hold a candle to a drunken angry barbarian tearing his way through everything and everyone.
It's obvious that it was supposed to be more integral in terms of outcome, but it's clear that post Johns' demotion and various delays that it's been sectioned off into its own spot in the DCU.I feel like Doomsday Clock was intended to build up to a massive change in DC continuity (and, in fact, since the Metaverse revelation in #10, has, in a way), but it had an embedded excuse to exist out of the way of every other book in the line for however long it would end up running, which is just good editing practice, especially in the context of how everything turned out.
Because Stone and Garfield didn't feel like high school kids. You remember your high school romances? I can tell you most of them were probably really bad and awkward.Far from Home's romance was too awkward. I like the film but it was so awkward I felt second hand embarrassment for them both. I guess that's the goal of the writer, but that's not something that makes it easy to get into the film itself. Everything else about the movie was great, though.
Stone and Garfield just felt so much more natural to me.
We're trapped in the 22-page floppy format and specialty store distribution for absolutely no reason. A good half of what Marvel and DC publishes should be in a page count, format, and distribution that suits the intended audience. Like, why is Squirrel Girl not just a funny Webtoon or webcomic? Or a series of OGNs? Do they all need be in color? Or have any physical footprint? Should some just be hardcover only, or manga-sized? I just don't think the one-size-fits-all works.I'm actually curious.
What do folks think are the logistical faults in comics? Nothing to do with writing, purely in how they're delivered/structured/packaged as products.
It's magazines that surprise me. There's no reason for those to still be a thing.
Because Stone and Garfield didn't feel like high school kids. You remember your high school romances? I can tell you most of them were probably really bad and awkward.
We're trapped in the 22-page floppy format and specialty store distribution for absolutely no reason. A good half of what Marvel and DC publishes should be in a page count, format, and distribution that suits the intended audience. Like, why is Squirrel Girl not just a funny Webtoon or webcomic? Or a series of OGNs? Do they all need be in color? Or have any physical footprint? Should some just be hardcover only, or manga-sized? I just don't think the one-size-fits-all works.
I always like when comic fans pretend like getting into comics isn't confusing as fuck and requires you to google a bunch of shit to figure out where to even begin.There's also an issue where trades are an incomprehensible mess unless you already know what you want. Going to a book store and seeing 20 different volumes of Spider-Man from different eras, some not even properly numbered (like Brand New Day) probably scares off casual readers.
Back in the day kids would just pick up any random comic and read it. Boom, you're into comics now.
Back in the day kids would just pick up any random comic and read it. Boom, you're into comics now.
This attitude is why comics are a booming business.
Can you think of any medium where you need to do preliminary research?
I always like when comic fans pretend like getting into comics isn't confusing as fuck
and requires you to google a bunch of shit to figure out where to even begin.
Can you think of any medium where you need to do preliminary research?
I don't think the issue is kids, it's more the college age/adults who can't wrap their minds around the idea that you don't need the entire knowledge of a characters continuity to enjoy a book.
Bro, a new fan will have no clue that any of that is a thing.It's not. My 7 year old loves them.
you don't have to do this any more than you did back in 1988 or whatever. As far as Marvel is concerned, most titles start at #1 and go to #15 or 20 to complete a single arc (or two, depending) before being cancelled and rebooted into something else. Everything you need to know about that series will be explained within those two dozen issues- there's no need to read comics from ten years ago to understand what's going on this week, the stories just aren't written that way.
Long time fans will likely appreciate winks, jokes, and nods to continuity but these aren't necessary to understand the story.
The internet age has conditioned people to do that whether it's required or not. Because there's so much out there and because something just for you is only a google search away, I think most people take that step whether they even realize it or not.
Here's a better question: Do I engage any piece of media sight unseen? Very rarely.
Even something as simple as reading the synopsis on the back of a novel - if you can stand in a book store and do that, I trust you're not so helpless you can't do the same with a graphic novel, whether we're talking about a big two character or anything else. If you just got out of your theater from Batman, Spidey, whatever, you can find a comic. Because chances are, you're not that miffed about the status quo, the run, the volume, etc. You could be lobotomized and still be able to find a trade with the character you want, with a "1" on the spine, and just enjoy your book.
I don't think the issue is kids, it's more the college age/adults who can't wrap their minds around the idea that you don't need the entire knowledge of a characters continuity to enjoy a book.
There's a difference between brushing up on My Hero Academia's wikipedia article to get a general synopsis and going to a forum to ask which Captain Marvel #1 you're supposed to buy.
We've had multiple instances of people making threads in the OT or people coming into this thread to say they want to get into comics but it's all just too confusing and they need advice.There's a difference between brushing up on My Hero Academia's wikipedia article to get a general synopsis and going to a forum to ask which Captain Marvel #1 you're supposed to buy.
I don't think the issue is kids, it's more the college age/adults who can't wrap their minds around the idea that you don't need the entire knowledge of a characters continuity to enjoy a book.
Again, a new person will look at this and be, like, "what the fuck?".New fans will typically start at #1, and this is easy to do because #1s pop up every couple of months