Concept art from WB Montreal's cancelled Damian Wayne Batman game

8byte

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The Two Face and Poison Ivy designs are FANTASTIC. Black Mask is good, too. The rest are forgettable, but I'd love to see those designs in other games. Very tired of the standard fare Ivy we've gotten since...well, since forever.
 

spad3

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But that whole nemesis system would've been pretty cool (on a smaller, tighter scale). Also, one thing I kinda wish the Arkham games had was more vehicles. I'm part of the few that actually enjoyed the Batmobile in Arkham Knight and would've loved some Batplane/Batboat action
 

est1992

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Agreed and while i love the Court of Owls - i feel this idea would have been extremely creative and intresting. I feel like we have had enough Arkham games staring Bruce
Unfortunately the big wigs over at WB only care about the Benjamins. Bruce sells, so they'll probs only make Batman games with him as the star.

Also, does anyone know if this is the game Nolan North was working on with WB, or was that the Suicide Squad franchise?
 

Spring-Loaded

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But that whole nemesis system would've been pretty cool (on a smaller, tighter scale). Also, one thing I kinda wish the Arkham games had was more vehicles. I'm part of the few that actually enjoyed the Batmobile in Arkham Knight and would've loved some Batplane/Batboat action
What if they let you do the Akira-slide with the bat cycle???

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Alienous

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The description of the Nemesis system for this game sounded great, where enemies could escape their encounters with you and commit further crimes, getting them noticed by villains. They could then be promoted to leading squads, being valuable enough to be broken out of jail, and even adopt a persona based on the villain who supports them.

Hopefully that idea is adapted into the current Batman project.
 

Gentlemen

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One of my least favorite bits of concept art is when we "cast" actors likeness in the concepts. Its always a weird Frankestein monstrosity and it murders creativity.
I assume such decisions are driven from the leads, or at least the AD's chair to guide a process that could be happening in a completely different country, executed by contractors.
 

Vic_Viper

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So supposedly this originated from 4chan. The poster laid some info about the game.

  • Batbike
  • Gotham is in ruins, like y'all see
  • All the villains mentioned plus penguin, white rabbit and flamingo
  • Dick and Bruce are both older. Bruce is retired
  • It was to include the nemesis system from the LoTR games
Also goes on to say that WB Montreal worked on this, Suicide Squad, and Superman, and all were canned. Says they are working on another Batman game (probably using assets from this one) and Rocksteady is making a "superhero creation game". Doesn't specify exactly what that is though.

Keep in mind these images have been going around for a while, so this info could be old/outdated.
Woah that would have been so good!

I just dont understand why they cancelled the title. The Arkam games sold fairly well, even Origins? The only thing I could see holding this one back compared to the others is having Damian as the lead. Just because he doesnt have the same name recognition as the other Bat family characters. Hell, he hadnt even been introduced in any of the prior Arkam games. But still, with enough marketing, and if the game played just as well as the others, it wouldnt have been that big of a hurdle imo.

Introducing the Nemesis system though would have been awesome. And having the Batbike!! WTF WB



EDIT: People trashing that Dick Grayson, yea its bad, but just remember they did the same thing to Tim Drake in the previous games. I think its more of an Unreal Engine type thing more so than a stylestic choice. I dunno, it just seems like a trend to go with the shaved head.
 

Raging Spaniard

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I assume such decisions are driven from the leads, or at least the AD's chair to guide a process that could be happening in a completely different country, executed by contractors.
Depends. Sometimes its from the concept artist itself, sometimes the AD, producer, game director, etc etc. Its used a lot in order to get higher ups to "buy in" when a concept is presented to them
 

DMVfan123

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So supposedly this originated from 4chan. The poster laid some info about the game.

  • Batbike
  • Gotham is in ruins, like y'all see
  • All the villains mentioned plus penguin, white rabbit and flamingo
  • Dick and Bruce are both older. Bruce is retired
  • It was to include the nemesis system from the LoTR games
Also goes on to say that WB Montreal worked on this, Suicide Squad, and Superman, and all were canned. Says they are working on another Batman game (probably using assets from this one) and Rocksteady is making a "superhero creation game". Doesn't specify exactly what that is though.

Keep in mind these images have been going around for a while, so this info could be old/outdated.
The idea of a Damian Wayne Batman game isn’t that appealing to me but I don’t hate most of these designs and I’m a sucker for superhero games (as long as they’re at least decent) so I probably would’ve bought it Day 1 anyway, plus this description doesn’t sound half bad
Still, not too beat up about it being cancelled, Court of Owls is way more appealing to me
 

SheriffMcDuck

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I feel like DC thinks Dick is super stale as a character for some reason. Every time they get a chance to throw a wrench into his arcs/character/etc. They do it. When all they need to do and what they've failed to do is tell a meaningful story that moves him forward as he currently is. It's upsetting as he's my favorite DC hero.
 

TheChrisGlass

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I feel like DC thinks Dick is super stale as a character for some reason. Every time they get a chance to throw a wrench into his arcs/character/etc. They do it. When all they need to do and what they've failed to do is tell a meaningful story that moves him forward as he currently is. It's upsetting as he's my favorite DC hero.
It honestly felt like the most recent change was all because they were scared of using the word "Dick"
 

KojiKnight

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Why are people acting like these early concept art characters are A: Bad, B: What the finals would even look like either way?

They honestly look pretty good, and they'd have gone through a few more iterations to be sure either way.
 

SheriffMcDuck

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It honestly felt like the most recent change was all because they were scared of using the word "Dick"
I've been so disappointed with Ric Grayson. I tolerated and really learned to love Grayson Superspy, but I can't get over Ric.

He's the antithesis to Dick Grayson. I don't know how that went through creative when people just want more Dick.
 

Hagi

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Looks really cool. I dig all those designs expect Dicks. Shame it was cancelled I doubt the next Batman game will have as interesting designs. Shit they don’t even acknowledge the best game of the four which also funnily enough has the best character designs.
 
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I like that Gorilla Grodd and Two-Face alot.

What's with Rocksteady and now WB Montreal shaving the Robins? Give them their luscious black hair.
 

Jawmuncher

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The Two Face and Poison Ivy designs are FANTASTIC. Black Mask is good, too. The rest are forgettable, but I'd love to see those designs in other games. Very tired of the standard fare Ivy we've gotten since...well, since forever.
Yeah, Ivy is definitely the stand out here and that's quite the design I sure wouldn't mind becoming her new standard look across multiple properties.
 

Inuhanyou

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Is this supposed to be a batman beyond game? isnt terry batman beyond? I only watched DCAU i dont know anything the comics may have made up
 

Pau

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I feel like DC thinks Dick is super stale as a character for some reason. Every time they get a chance to throw a wrench into his arcs/character/etc. They do it. When all they need to do and what they've failed to do is tell a meaningful story that moves him forward as he currently is. It's upsetting as he's my favorite DC hero.
Would you have been okay with him staying on as a Batman?
 

max.rem

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Two Face's design is amazing.

Dick Grayson being anything other than the most beautiful human man is a sin tho.