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Confirmed: You can't play Super Mario Maker 2's online with your friends - limited to randoms only (see threadmark)
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So they are going to give Mario maker 2 a lower score than Mario maker 1 because it's online isn't 100% complete even though Mario maker 1 had no online play at all?
Did they lower the scores of Mario maker 1 since it had no online play at all?
No, but it wouldn't be unprecedented to dock a few percentage points from the overall package for omitting an obvious mode.
No they should give it a lower score because it requires paid online subscription to have access to functionality that is a big hook of this game, which other games of this genre don't require, and on top of that dropping the ball with the paid online functionality aspects.
I mean I was only getting it to play online with my friend.
I didn't care about mario maker 2 before the online announcement (often saying I would only get it if it had online play with my friends) but after I was game to get it.
my friend also cancelled his preorder because the only reason he was getting it was to play with me.
most of my other friends are still getting it though *shrugs*
My nephews moved from Ohio to NY and this would've been a way for us to game together from a distance. Nintendo just lost two copies as that was the only reason I had to buy the games for us.
Back to Fortnite groups I guess. Online play with friends is that important to some of us.
You not caring means fuck all to those of actually do. Laugh it up.
ok but really, you're a tiny minority because this feature was only announced two weeks ago. So like, if you decided you wanted a game and then decided you didn't want that game anymore within two weeks- cool, you didn't waste much time on it. No damage done. Ultimately, it has basically no impact at all on your life.
How much can people actually care about a feature that was only announced two weeks ago? You're acting like this is a fundamental part of the entire series identity. It's not.
The amount of eyes on this game will dwarf the first one considering the Switch's mindshare. They dedicated a chunk of the direct to this feature because they knew how much buzz "online mario maker" would create. That was a huge part of the excitement coming out of that direct. I'm not interested in dealing with hyperbolic reactions like you're talking about, but I'm sure this newly revealed limited online functionality is a blow to people like me who were excited SPECIFICALLY because of online.
Oh ok, great talk.
Playing online with friends is the entire reason I was going to buy this.
Just disable leaderboards when playing with friends.
Just disable leaderboards when playing with friends.
It is entertaining to see the rabid ones with the defense of "you didn't know about this feature before 2 weeks ago"
When that is all you can come up with, why bother trying to defend at all? There is no defense for being able to play with randoms only.
Doing poorly a new mode is not the same as making a spin off no one asked for after years waiting for a new entry. Also Fed Force initial trailer was terrible and confusing.
No it wasn't? It was just one feature mentioned amongst many. The main thing mentioned on era, twitter, reddit, game sites etc was the 3D World mode, and all the new course building options, seeing as that's the actual point of the game. The online component did not gather considerable hype whatsoever. People were much more anxious to know if they could play couch co-op.
Spoiler alert it won't, Nintendo won't even respond to this they are always the same in this cases they just shamelessly ignore complaints and move on.
Nintendo's incompetence when it comes to online has massively held them back as a company. Online has been the driving factor in the growth of the gaming industry the last few years and Nintendo has damn well near totally missed the boat.
wrong. Nintendo being this stupid angered me and caused me my productivity today :P
I had also spent a decent amount of time convincing my friend to get it. As well as trying to figure out when we could play together because I like planning things well in advance.
I get it, it's not important to you, but please don't try to act like it's a trivial amount of people that are upset by this. Plenty of people have fond memories of playing mario with their friends while growing up and no longer live near their friends :/
that being said, I doubt it significantly hurts the sales of mario maker 2. it will still make tons of profit even if everyone that is even slightly upset by this boycotted it *shrugs*
You could be right. I can't think of any time they changed something due to a petition.
Jfc Nintendo. This is a problem they've never had before (usually they only have the online friend component) and if it really is because of leaderboards, they've literally already solved it in their other games! How on Earth did they fuck this up??! I can only hope that they're working on a lobby system ala Smash and Arms, but I'm not holding my breath for this fucking company when it comes to online.
Good. This isn't a Mario Maker 2 problem only. This is an overall issue among Nintendo.
I hope they do but if Smash, Super Mario Party and NSO (the most recent examples i can think of) are any indications they won't.
Ok pal, but maybe you need to assess your priorities if news about a video game is affecting your actual real life.
I mean, it is a trivial amount of people who are upset by this, because the majority of people who will buy the game won't even know about this feature yet as it was only announced two weeks ago, and the actual proper mainstream marketing campaign for the game hasn't even started yet.
I'm sorry you can't play with your friends, but two weeks ago, before this feature was announced, you were in exactly the same boat, so I really, really, really don't understand how this can be anything other than a mild disappointment.
You didn't see Mario Maker 2 get announced and spend months building up hype about playing online with friends. You just found out about that feature. Then you spent two weeks thinking you'd be able to play this game online with friends. Then you found out you couldn't. Oh well, never mind. You're back where you were two weeks ago. It has no real impact on your life.
Alright friend you got this. I'm sure limiting online play to randoms will go over well in 2019 because 3D World assets are in building mode. We'll all regale our friends of incredible creations that they too can experience on their own, in this game that clearly has online MP but doesn't allow invites or private lobbies because leaderboards.
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I wonder why they decided to go complete 180, going from always pushing online being with friends only, to online co-op being with randoms only. It's the complete opposite thing I would have expected. But its come with the territory of Nintendo ways of thinking...
I doubt this will effect sales and reviews much though. The game is still a great update on the first one with a lot of new added features/extras. The only big downside is lack of 4 player co-op online with friends.
I doubt this will effect sales and reviews much though. The game is still a great update on the first one with a lot of new added features/extras. The only big downside is lack of 4 player co-op online with friends.
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Oh sweet summer child...
Do you realize how long it usually takes for Nintendo to realize, let alone fix, their mistakes?
I don't care that much about the literal numbers, I won't presume that reviews have all the much power over the company's decisions in the future but it's important for informing players and otherwise making some noise on the matter
I definitely agree. Smash was just a really irritating experience, I know a few articles came out in the aftermath but it's not quite the same as players and press being fully informed going in
Don't be a silly goose. Game sequels have higher expectations placed on them than their predecessors, the impetus is on them for improving with each iteration. The og mario maker was trying something new so it's sort of okay that its online wasn't up to snuff
I really dont understand what happened. A week ago we were speculating if the game had local coop and had confidence on the online. Now everyone expects the online to be shit while local coop was quietly confirmed.
For fucks sake. Why are people in this thread actual children? I'm not saying this is a good choice by Nintendo, I'm just saying that people acting like Nintendo took away something they'd longed for all their life and now all gamerzz are going to rise up in revenge need to get a fucking grip.
I want to actually talk about the issue at hand and not wade through pages of faux-emotion about a recently announced secondary online component of a video game.
Lol such a Nintendo move. Introduce a ton of amazing content and then the "one more thing" is boneheaded.
They're the ultimate monkey paw company.
They're the ultimate monkey paw company.
Then talk about it then? Maybe without insults and handwaving concerns.
Honestly it's not clear what you are trying to do in this thread or what you want to discuss other than to tell people how they should feel. Beyond that, it's quite likely that many buyers/potential buyers were assuming/expecting/hoping for this feature long before the recent direct. Perhaps many were already unhappy that it wasn't in the first, and wanted it in the second. The whole "it was announced two weeks ago" angle doesn't really mean anything.
Additionally, the larger fanbase is long since fed up with Nintendo's online services, and issues there-in. The reaction is not just about this game or feature, it's about their online strategy, or lack thereof, as a whole.
Yeah it's pretty nuts. I really hope they reassess this decision
Not really caring about disingenuous sob stories is not "handwaving concerns".
Any evidence of this? I remember plenty of Mario Maker 2 hype threads and this sort of online component was basically not discussed at all.
You're right about the actual issue being Nintendo's online service as a whole. That is what we should be discussing.
They're probably in the "how do we fix this pr fuckup" room as we speak
Nintendo.
just because people make fun of you for your online it doesn't mean you have to KEEP HAVING THE MONKEY PAW SYSTEM JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.
just because people make fun of you for your online it doesn't mean you have to KEEP HAVING THE MONKEY PAW SYSTEM JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.
This is an actual dealbreaker for me as I was only considering getting it to mess around with friends online (I don't have much personal interest in creating courses). How completely insane is it that Nintendo finally has online co-op for this but then you can't do it with friends because of *leaderboards*? Like, playing with randoms is going to somehow make the leaderboards more legitimate? Nintendo has really out-Nintendo'd themselves here.
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