Go get fucked, you genocide empowering piece of shit.
I'm glad people like you speak up. We need more courageous folks like you to kill this bullshit.As a Jewish person, I loathe how successful Israeli foreign lobbying efforts have been at equating "anti-Bibi" with "anti-Israel" with "anti-Semitic".
"I wouldn't take it as anti-Semitism," says @RepDanKildee referring to Rep. Omar's tweet on Israel.
"We ought to be careful not to construe that in anything other than a concern about the fact that money has undue influence on political decision making." http://cnn.it/2E4osM6
07:33 - 11 Feb 2019
:')I'm glad people like you speak up. We need more courageous folks like you to kill this bullshit.
It reminds me of what certain people would say when blacks people brought attention to systemic racial issues. It must be done in the right way, she must say the right words. There are no right words because anything she says will be anti-Semitic.Oh the hell with this "you need to do this the right way" thing. Haven't we gone over enough that "the right way" is just empty bullshit meant to placate nobody and help nobody because it's all empty rhetoric so that we can just brush people like Rep Omar aside and continue on with the Apartheid state?
I find it hilarious(depressing) that people are up in arms about this when republicans literally commit terrorist attacks against Jewish people.
The POTUS has literally said there are very fine neo-nazis.
I find it hilarious(depressing) that people are up in arms about this when republicans literally commit terrorist attacks against Jewish people.
The POTUS has literally said there are very fine neo-nazis.
Jewish House Democrats urge Pelosi to denounce Ilhan Omar for what they see as anti-Semitic tweets https://wapo.st/2RWRfWu
09:53 - 11 Feb 2019
Sadly, she said that the sanctions the OBAMA and Trump administration imposed on the regime harms the Venezuelans. Wrong, they target Maduro and his cronies. It is disappointing that someone that is completely right about Israel is completely wrong about Venezuela and supporting that scumbag called Maduro.She came out in support of Maduro or like Bernie Sanders came out in support of non intervention. Two different things
I agree. I think she's generally correct on the subject matter, but her language was very dogwhistle-y and anti-Semitic.Guys - can we all admit that at best her choice of using those specific rap lyrics was a mistake? I'm Jewish. I don't support AIPAC but do support Israel generally (e.g. its existence, etc even if I hate Bibi, settlements, and how right wing the country has grown). With that said, to use those lyrics when talking about Jews, regardless of the subject, does touch a nerve. She should have known.
It's just become beyond frustrating trying to drive this point home.
Criticizing the Israeli government and the influences that drive our support for that government is not an attack on Jews. Much in the same way critiquing the governments of Arab nations is not an attack on Islam.
Picture everything you'd expect to hear regarding a young Muslim woman in Congress and you've got it. Absurd attacks on her character and religion, accusations of being an inevitable terrorist, etc.
It was not . She was not anti Semitic or dog whistling in her words when she clearly stated that it's about AIPAC money which is not a Jewish org but a pro right wing Israeli Lobby orgI agree. I think she's generally correct on the subject matter, but her language was very dogwhistle-y and anti-Semitic.
Guys - can we all admit that at best her choice of using those specific rap lyrics was a mistake? I'm Jewish. I don't support AIPAC but do support Israel generally (e.g. its existence, etc even if I hate Bibi, settlements, and how right wing the country has grown). With that said, to use those lyrics when talking about Jews, regardless of the subject, does touch a nerve. She should have known.
I feel that while it's important to note the use of money in lobbying. AIPAC is actually a bad example. Their lobbying expenditures were only about 3.5 million total last year. That's bottom tier as far as lobbying goes. The money only works because the politicians already agree with the message.
Clearly, it is at the very least subjective / up for debate.It was not . She was not anti Semitic or dog whistling in her words when she clearly stated that it's about AIPAC money which is not a Jewish org but a pro right wing Israeli Lobby org
I feel that while it's important to note the use of money in lobbying. AIPAC is actually a bad example. Their lobbying expenditures were only about 3.5 million total last year. That's bottom tier as far as lobbying goes. The money only works because the politicians already agree with the message.
I find it hilarious(depressing) that people are up in arms about this when republicans literally commit terrorist attacks against Jewish people.
The POTUS has literally said there are very fine neo-nazis.
Like, a large subset of the Republican Party is legit anti-Semitic.
They happen to hate Arabs/Muslims more, that's all there is to it.I find it hilarious(depressing) that people are up in arms about this when republicans literally commit terrorist attacks against Jewish people.
The POTUS has literally said there are very fine neo-nazis.
Like, a large subset of the Republican Party is legit anti-Semitic.
Guys - can we all admit that at best her choice of using those specific rap lyrics was a mistake? I'm Jewish. I don't support AIPAC but do support Israel generally (e.g. its existence, etc even if I hate Bibi, settlements, and how right wing the country has grown). With that said, to use those lyrics when talking about Jews, regardless of the subject, does touch a nerve. She should have known.
AIPAC tells other pro-Israel PACs who to throw their support behind. Overall pro-Israel spending is $12-$15 million every election cycle.
Edit: and that's just PAC money.
https://twitter.com/mkraju
Jerry Nadler jumps into the fray, saying of Omar's comments: "It is deeply disappointing and disturbing to hear Representative Ilhan Omar's choice of words in her exchange with a journalist yesterday, wherein she appears to traffic in old anti-Semitic tropes about Jews and money"
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10:30 - 11 Feb 2019
A jokey tweet tangentially and accidentally invoking anti-semitic language is still tangentially and accidentally invoking that language. It was poor judgement on her part and if that language was used in a political attack ad or flyer by a right wing politician against a Soros backed opponent it would rightfully be called out as anti-Semitic.It was not . She was not anti Semitic or dog whistling in her words when she clearly stated that it's about AIPAC money which is not a Jewish org but a pro right wing Israeli Lobby org
If she said "Jews control congress with their money" that would be antisemitic
She said it's about about the money (from AIPAC) which is not antisemitic language
A jokey tweet tangentially and accidentally invoking anti-semitic language is still tangentially and accidentally invoking that language. It was poor judgement on her part and if that language was used in a political attack ad or flyer by a right wing politician against a Soros backed opponent it would rightfully be called out as anti-Semitic.
"Tangentially", "poor judgment", "accidentally" "jokingly". The same excuses the right uses when they peddle their own racist bullshit. It was a clear antisemitic dogwhistle. She knew exactly what she was doing. There is a reason very liberal people are pissed about her language
"Tangentially", "poor judgment", "accidentally" "jokingly". The same excuses the right uses when they peddle their own racist bullshit. It was a clear antisemitic dogwhistle. She knew exactly what she was doing. There is a reason very liberal people are pissed about her language
We should hold everyone to a higher standard.
I won't go so far as to say she knew what she was doing, but lord how are you going to reduce such a complicated issue down like that? ESPECIALLY in an era where rhetorical charity is rare and precious?
Also, Glenn Greenwald is a turd stop retweeting him lefties.
I have a friend who went to a Zionist camp (or whatever it was, he said it was some Jewish indoctrination retreat event) when he was younger. He told me that the one thing they drill into you there is to make sure that any criticism of Israel be turned around to anti-semitism; that is the best way to shut down the conversation.
Except that anti-semitism is real and leads to daily violence and murder. Most of which most people don't even know happens every day.
Like JUDEN! painted on a Paris bagel shop yesterday.
1. Omar is correct that AIPAC and it's donors hold undue influence in American politics
2. Trying to discuss an issue this sensitive with quippy Twitter jokes is going to be counterproductive, and lead to situations like this.
3. Intentionally or not, "It's all about the Benjamins" definitely leans into anti-Semitic tropes.
4. Republicans are being disingenuous in calling this out. They're happy to lean into the same tropes Against Soros or any other left-leaning Jews.
5. That doesn't mean Dems shouldn't hold their own to a higher standard.
6. Omar is also over simplifying things by saying it's all about money, and ignoring the real sickness in American evangelicalism that leads to rabid pro-Israel apologetics. Getting rid of AIPAC would not make this go away.
I think that's all my thoughts on this one.
I am glad this happened though. culling the latent anti-semitism out of this issue is an important step for Palestinian justice overall.
1. Omar is correct that AIPAC and it's donors hold undue influence in American politics
2. Trying to discuss an issue this sensitive with quippy Twitter jokes is going to be counterproductive, and lead to situations like this.
3. Intentionally or not, "It's all about the Benjamins" definitely leans into anti-Semitic tropes.
4. Republicans are being disingenuous in calling this out. They're happy to lean into the same tropes Against Soros or any other left-leaning Jews.
5. That doesn't mean Dems shouldn't hold their own to a higher standard.
6. Omar is also over simplifying things by saying it's all about money, and ignoring the real sickness in American evangelicalism that leads to rabid pro-Israel apologetics. Getting rid of AIPAC would not make this go away.
I think that's all my thoughts on this one.
1. Omar is correct that AIPAC and it's donors hold undue influence in American politics
2. Trying to discuss an issue this sensitive with quippy Twitter jokes is going to be counterproductive, and lead to situations like this.
3. Intentionally or not, "It's all about the Benjamins" definitely leans into anti-Semitic tropes.
4. Republicans are being disingenuous in calling this out. They're happy to lean into the same tropes Against Soros or any other left-leaning Jews.
5. That doesn't mean Dems shouldn't hold their own to a higher standard.
6. Omar is also over simplifying things by saying it's all about money, and ignoring the real sickness in American evangelicalism that leads to rabid pro-Israel apologetics. Getting rid of AIPAC would not make this go away.
I think that's all my thoughts on this one.
"Tangentially", "poor judgment", "accidentally" "jokingly". The same excuses the right uses when they peddle their own racist bullshit. It was a clear antisemitic dogwhistle. She knew exactly what she was doing. There is a reason very liberal people are pissed about her language
You seem confused. The way she expressed herself was in poor judgement, the message is right on. Criticizing Israel and the israeli lobby isn't antisemitic, no matter who wants to throw a temper tantrum.
1. Omar is correct that AIPAC and it's donors hold undue influence in American politics
2. Trying to discuss an issue this sensitive with quippy Twitter jokes is going to be counterproductive, and lead to situations like this.
3. Intentionally or not, "It's all about the Benjamins" definitely leans into anti-Semitic tropes.
4. Republicans are being disingenuous in calling this out. They're happy to lean into the same tropes Against Soros or any other left-leaning Jews.
5. That doesn't mean Dems shouldn't hold their own to a higher standard.
6. Omar is also over simplifying things by saying it's all about money, and ignoring the real sickness in American evangelicalism that leads to rabid pro-Israel apologetics. Getting rid of AIPAC would not make this go away.
I think that's all my thoughts on this one.
Using that specific type of language to criticize israel and the israeli lobby can be easily interpreted as anti-semitic. I'm shocked it's being so widely defended to be honest.