This lol. I don't want to accuse OP of anything, but when I finished reading the OP that's the first thing that came to mind.
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Consistent whitewashing of Princess Zelda is a symptom of wider racial issues at Nintendo
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The issue here being the whitewashing of a character who was....white to begin with?
Dark skin as a shortcut for easily identifiable bad guy is a tired design trope. I wish it would die out.
What a fucking terrible thread.
I literally went to the beach a week ago for 6 days and got really really dark, how do you explain that?
I literally went to the beach a week ago for 6 days and got really really dark, how do you explain that?
No. But it's always funny for us seeing americans getting mad in our name lmao
Unless you're outright mocking our culture, most Mexicans are more than OK with other people having fun or enjoying our culture
Becuase they're Heroes
A lot of people were bothered that when Tetra became Zelda it wasn't just Tetra with a princess dress, and it's understandable, Tetra being represented as dark skinned most of the game had people disappointed that her skin bleached upon the reveal that she is Zelda.
A lot of people were bothered that when Tetra became Zelda it wasn't just Tetra with a princess dress, and it's understandable, Tetra being represented as dark skinned most of the game had people disappointed that her skin bleached upon the reveal that she is Zelda.
Magnus is a mercenary but overall good guy who's just rough around the edges. Pit and Magnus have helped each other out of situations.
Sorry but you lost me at Dark Pit/Dark Link OP.
There's a compelling discussion to be had here with regards to Zelda and her father, but it's also worth mentioning that Zelda's "canonical" look (pale-skinned, blonde-haired young woman) greatly predates any depiction of her father.
There's a compelling discussion to be had here with regards to Zelda and her father, but it's also worth mentioning that Zelda's "canonical" look (pale-skinned, blonde-haired young woman) greatly predates any depiction of her father.
Uh yes. Yes they can. Not everyone of course....I can't either but...are you being serious right now?
Even then, I knew some people in school that where white as fuck and when they came back from a 2 week long holiday with constant sun they looked almost like a different person.
There's a bunch of these threads. It would be good to see a letter of complaint and an official response. Putting that online would be interesting. Discussing the issue for the nth time on Era is all well and good but it's not going to do much unless a significant number of people boycott their products or start some sort of visible campaign.
User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns on Racism; Inflammatory Generalizations
What I usually say to such topics:
The ones who try to find racism everywhere they go are most likely racist themself.
Wasn't there lately the thing with american natives and mr. game and watch which caused an outcry from non native americans and was totally fine by native americans themself, then being mad about that it got removed?
Pointing out racism in art is pointless, unless the goal of the art is to be racist.
The ones who try to find racism everywhere they go are most likely racist themself.
Wasn't there lately the thing with american natives and mr. game and watch which caused an outcry from non native americans and was totally fine by native americans themself, then being mad about that it got removed?
Pointing out racism in art is pointless, unless the goal of the art is to be racist.
It's not just one thing being "defended" though and people saying they don't agree with the op IS discussing it.
I mean the op is pretty much using anime style art as well lol.
No. We did not.
In fact. We loved it. (Well i can't speak for everyone, but in general, Mexico loves it when huge IP pays Tribute to our cultural, and Mario did it really respectfully)
How do you get a significant number of people to boycott without talking about the issue? It seems like you're just trying to shut down the thread with "go complain to nintendo and don't make threads about it in my forum". If you are not interested, you can ignore the thread.
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Her first reveal is a camera pan focused on her ass which is followed up by a front shot which slowly moves upwards (male gaze). Big tits and big ass with the camera oogling at her is hypersexualized. Not necessarily on the level of bayonetta but still.
At first I was also a little confused but it does actually kind of show what a tan in Japanese popculture is meant to look like. Maybe Zelda's tan isn't super realistic but it's what is perceived as tanned
In a thread filled with some pretty stupid takes, imagine taking the cake with a take this fucking bad.
To be fair I think most cultures are like that, except Americans who get offended on behalf of other cultures
Tetra has a tan.
Elderly people having more tanned skin is a thing. The "Old Man" in BoTW isn't black.
Dark Link doesn't have a normal human skin tone and just represents darkness.
The Jynx and Kirby things are from the 90s.
Mario wearing a sombrero isn't racist and I'm pretty sure you are the first person I've ever seen complain about Twintelle
Elderly people having more tanned skin is a thing. The "Old Man" in BoTW isn't black.
Dark Link doesn't have a normal human skin tone and just represents darkness.
The Jynx and Kirby things are from the 90s.
Mario wearing a sombrero isn't racist and I'm pretty sure you are the first person I've ever seen complain about Twintelle
It's not a nintendo thing as much as a cultural difference thing. It's been a thing in a Japan for a long time now. These kind of things are also prevalent in Chinese media.
Racism against black folks is not much of an issue outside of America and UK you know. The rest of the world have their own racism problems too. There are genocides going on and this is just over reaching.
Racism against black folks is not much of an issue outside of America and UK you know. The rest of the world have their own racism problems too. There are genocides going on and this is just over reaching.
Is Zelda supposed to be White or is she Japanese?
I mean she looks white to me, but that brings up the point that just because Anime characters look white to white people doesn't mean they actually are.
I mean she looks white to me, but that brings up the point that just because Anime characters look white to white people doesn't mean they actually are.
So do I, but OP doesn't seem to be responding to normal logic lol
Real life, how does that work. White people can tan a lot in a short time, going to pasty to looking like a Hispanic.
Yeah but it's still a good example of the trope considering only one version is supposed to have an obvious "evil" appearance.
I don't agree with a bunch of the OP other than that, though. Twintelle is rad.
She's clearly meant to be an attractive woman yes.(she's a movie star it kinda comes with the territory usually.)
But how is that racist exactly?
This has nothing to do with race or racism and everything to do with light vs darkness and good vs evil and how to visually represent that.t
Beyond all the examples in the OP, I was recently thinking of how Zelda has blonde-washed / aryanized their characters too. Link and Zelda used to be brown-red-haired in the NES games; nowadays they're invariably blonder than Marylin Monroe.
This is incidentally one of the reasons why Twilight Princess's designs are still among my favorite; it was the closest we got to reversing the trend in like two decades.
This is incidentally one of the reasons why Twilight Princess's designs are still among my favorite; it was the closest we got to reversing the trend in like two decades.
No one ever had a problem with Mario being depicted as a fatty italian
Or that pirates have tans.
I also read somewhere that dark skin in manga is often meant to represent people from outside the Kanto region, because countryside.
Zelda is always white.
Tetra turns into Zelda as a reveal like sheik in OoT and then turns back into Tetra in the end and stays as Tetra in the sequel.
Tetra turns into Zelda as a reveal like sheik in OoT and then turns back into Tetra in the end and stays as Tetra in the sequel.
I was also wondering about this!
I mean, I think she's an "Elf" which makes me think she should look like a Tolkien elf... which are definitely white looking in most media, but I'm more then willing to hear otherwise.
You don't know what hypersexualized means. That also has nothing to do with racism.
There are multiple issues with the thread and people are discussing them. Not sure how your post is contributing more than they do.
Yeah seems like it, sadly.
This is one of the worst ban-bait threads I've seen in a while. Especially when we start to talk about racism in the yin-yang symbol, hypersexualised Twintelle, and fucking 'evil' Dark Pit. Are you serious?
The premise is sound and well understood by most so no dismissal or excuses here, but OP's arguments regarding colourisation and cel-shading are completely insane. There's got to be some projection going on here.
The premise is sound and well understood by most so no dismissal or excuses here, but OP's arguments regarding colourisation and cel-shading are completely insane. There's got to be some projection going on here.
I get what you're saying with the Zelda/Tetra stuff but half the King pictures look fairly light skinned besides the Minish Cap one. The BotW hooded shot looks like his face is dark from the hood with the light from below showing it lighter.
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