Control content roadmap. Fall 2019 - mid 2020 (Alan Wake teased in later expansion)

Sleeping Lesson · Sep 11, 2019

ascagnel said:
I really, really need to replay Alan Wake (I played it on release without having seen TP, so most of that is drawing parallels from memory).

Twin Peaks is the Velvet Underground of the 00s and 10s. It may have been reasonably popular at first, but it seems like everyone who saw it went on to make their own crazy shit.

I love the cultural and art influence that Twin Peaks has had. I can never get enough of it.

DarkChronic said:
I might pick up Alan Wake on Steam and give it a playthrough. How does it hold up these days? Haven't played since launch.

The combat gets tiresome, and has aged pretty poorly. I wish Nightmare mode was unlocked from the get-go, because it feels like the way the game was meant to be played. It forces the player to run from a lot of engagements, which really adds to the tension. It's still one of my top-5 games all time, but it's undeniable that some parts of the game were never great. Like the character facial animations, which are kind of unintentionally nightmarish.

Still though, playing through Alan Wake in 4K is an incredible, atmospheric experience.

tr1b0re · Sep 11, 2019

Yup, I need those there expansions

Need em

MrS · Sep 11, 2019

So they decided to opt for a Photo Mode instead of pursuing HDR and they didn't even deliver the photo mode at launch? That's some bullshit.

Fiery Phoenix · Sep 11, 2019

MrS said:
So they decided to opt for a Photo Mode instead of pursuing HDR and they didn't even deliver the photo mode at launch? That's some bullshit.

HDR is apparently an engine limitation. It didn't really work well for QB and they decided to ditch it altogether for this game.

modestb · Sep 11, 2019

DarkChronic said:
I might pick up Alan Wake on Steam and give it a playthrough. How does it hold up these days? Haven't played since launch.

I've been playing it for the first time this week after finishing Control (and I got it for free from Epic), and it is definitely very very good. The game is very 360/PS3 era, areas are designed to seem wide open but are just mostly fancy corridors, enemy variety is ABYSMAL, and every level boils down to "You are in the dark scary woods, get to the place with light", but it has solid mechanics and visual design along with a very interesting story. I haven't finished it but if you can get a good deal for it, its definitely worth the time investment IMO

modestb · Sep 11, 2019

Lulu said:
Damn I really want this game but not for 60. Urgh.

Control is the first game I've bought for 60 dollars in YEARS. I got my money's worth*

*I played on PC where there's no framerate issues and I experienced no crashes or glitches in my 15~hr playthrough

DarkChronic said:
I might pick up Alan Wake on Steam and give it a playthrough. How does it hold up these days? Haven't played since launch.

I've been playing it for the first time this week after finishing Control (and I got it for free from Epic), and it is definitely very very good. The game is very 360/PS3 era, areas are designed to seem wide open but are just mostly fancy corridors, enemy variety is ABYSMAL, and every level boils down to "You are in the dark scary woods, get to the place with light", but it has solid mechanics and visual design along with a very interesting story. I haven't finished it but if you can get a good deal for it, its definitely worth the time investment IMO

ascagnel · Sep 11, 2019

Kalentan said:
How's the performance on PS4 Pro? Debating if getting it on PC or PS4. It's mainly a problem of space.

Pre-patch, occasional drops during busier bits (usually using telekinesis in an area with a lot of props) and weird menu lag. Post-patch, haven't noticed any major issues on the Pro.

plagiarize · Sep 11, 2019

'This House of Dreams' (as seen on that chalk board in Quantum Break) was set in Ordinary. There was some weird in universe blog posts from back in the day, although plans do seem to have changed for what Ordinary is.

Been a while since I read this, but... well... dive in.

https://thishouseofdreams.blogspot.com/

Luke_wal · Sep 11, 2019

wallmeat said:
I'm still cleaning up side content in Control and I've started playing Alan Wake again, so seeing this image fills me with the kind of joy I needed this morning. Hope we get a "previously, on Alan Wake" moment in there somewhere.

If Jesse meets Alan Wake (the character), and there's not immediately a "previously, on Alan Wake," I will be deeply disappointed in this video game that I love.

Sleeping Lesson · Sep 11, 2019

I imagine Jesse hearing Alan Wake speak for the first time and immediately recognizing his voice as Dr. Darling's.

Falchion · Sep 11, 2019

Photo mode!!!! Can't wait to be able to use this.

plagiarize · Sep 11, 2019

Sleeping Lesson said:
I imagine Jesse hearing Alan Wake speak for the first time and immediately recognizing his voice as Dr. Darling's.

Control secrets spoiler:

She didn't comment on it, when she heard the page in the panopticon speaking with Wake's voice.

Barrel Cannon · Sep 11, 2019

So what happens if Remedy artists are just trolling us.

they obviously aren't

AlternateAir · Sep 11, 2019

Luke_wal said:
If Jesse meets Alan Wake (the character), and there's not immediately a "previously, on Alan Wake," I will be deeply disappointed in this video game that I love.

Oh my God that needs to happen

tulpa · Sep 11, 2019

Zor said:
Yes, people who played it are aware, but putting the Alan Wake artwork in the actual letters, and two of the letters easily spelling Alan Wake, I think this is Remedy being fluky teases and we're about to learn a double meaning.

Fury451 said:
Altered World Events are a type of phenomena in Control

The Bright Falls incident was an AWE. Control is a stealth sequel to Alan Wake

Dusk Golem said:
That's 100% Alan Wake, they know what they're teasing their audience with there.

I also feel they may know what they're doing with Foundation, as that is rather on the nose for the SCP influence, I won't be surprised if that expansion goes in a deeper SCP direction. Though honestly, an SCP and an Alan Wake expansion for Control both would be really rad.

the connection/double meaning has been there for years, you just had to know where to look. here's a screenshot from quantum break i just captured-- look at the bottom left of the chalkboard

Sleeping Lesson · Sep 11, 2019

plagiarize I haven't finished the game, so I'm not going to open or quote that spoiler! I'll check it out once I have, though.

Black_Stride · Sep 11, 2019

Still early in the game.
But already excited to get more Control.

Remedy hasnt made anything I hated and I actually really enjoyed Quantum Break.
Control though I am absolutely enjoying I was feeling slightly depressed when I realized I was powering through it....trying to slow down but legit dont know how to....knowing that theres expansions coming gives me some solace.

tulpa · Sep 11, 2019

Sleeping Lesson said:
plagiarize I haven't finished the game, so I'm not going to open or quote that spoiler! I'll check it out once I have, though.

sadly if you're reading this thread you're pretty much openly spoiled for a big section of the ending :\

Riddler · Sep 11, 2019

Prompto said:
Guess I need to play Alan Wake before that second expansion is out

Yes it's a...Ocean. AWE! Typewriter altered OP?

nihilence · Sep 11, 2019

Fury451 said:
Altered World Events are a type of phenomena in Control

The Bright Falls incident was an AWE. Control is a stealth sequel to Alan Wake

That explains the all caps..

plagiarize · Sep 11, 2019

tulpa said:
the connection/double meaning has been there for years, you just had to know where to look. here's a screenshot from quantum break i just captured-- look at the bottom left of the chalkboard

There's that spiral again too.

tulpa · Sep 11, 2019

plagiarize said:
There's that spiral again too.

so damn cool. there was also references to Ordinary in some Alan Wake marketing stuff. and "it will happen again in another town called Ordinary."

I wonder how much they had planned this out in advance?

Kamaros · Sep 11, 2019

if this Alan Wake business is nothing of significance I will be upset.

tulpa · Sep 11, 2019

Kamaros said:
if this Alan Wake business is nothing of significance I will be upset.

it's hugely significant! this thread is openly spoiling end sections of the game so i wouldn't recommend doing too much reading in here if you want to discover stuff for yourself in control

Deleted member 21003 · Sep 11, 2019

Is Quantum Break in the same universe? Is Quantum Break actually any good?

Soj · Sep 11, 2019

I have half a dozen new games I could be playing, but instead I'm redownloading Alan Wake and American Nightmare.

plagiarize · Sep 11, 2019

tulpa said:
so damn cool. there was also references to Ordinary in some Alan Wake marketing stuff. and "it will happen again in another town called Ordinary."

I wonder how much they had planned this out in advance?

Going from this:

https://thishouseofdreams.blogspot.com/

Back in 2012, the FBC was going to be called AWE, the Ordinary AWE hadn't happened yet (which begs questions about when Control is set if they are going to try and keep the mention of Ordinary in American Nightmare and This House of Dreams canon, although I expect they won't).

So I think plans changed. It seems like Ordinary was going to be the setting for an Alan Wake 2 (The Return) and it was going to feature the AWE in some way.

This morphed into a game focused on the AWE (now the FBC) and some of the ideas for the events that were going to take place in Ordinary, presumably became the basis for the Ordinary AWE we hear about in Control. The Not Mother, and all that uber creepy shit were presumably part of that concept. It really stands out as being tonally different (in a good way) and having a lot of thought put into it, when it could have just been 'stuff went bad, adults all disappeared' etc. Instead it's a timeline of events, multiple locations, slides, and entities, etc.

plagiarize · Sep 11, 2019

bonkasaurus said:
Is Quantum Break in the same universe? Is Quantum Break actually any good?

Control talks of many realities and bridges between them. Max Payne and Quantum Break seem like different realities to the one Control takes place in. Jesse Fayden and Alan Wake are very clearly from the same universe.

Necron · Sep 11, 2019

I'm in AWE.

tulpa · Sep 11, 2019

bonkasaurus said:
Is Quantum Break in the same universe?

seems that way! the connections aren't as explicit as with Alan Wake, but considering all the AWE stuff littered around that game, the stutter phenomena and the "break" in time seems potentially like another altered world event.

but as plagiarize said, the game also discusses this idea of "many worlds existing side by side" with doors between the worlds. Alan Wake and Control seem like they are definitely the same world, and it's strongly hinted that Max Payne is another parallel world

bonkasaurus said:
Is Quantum Break actually any good?

yeah, it is. it's worth playing. it's not nearly as good as Control but for my money Control is also one of the best games I've ever played, so it's a high bar.

plagiarize said:
Going from this:

https://thishouseofdreams.blogspot.com/

Back in 2012, the FBC was going to be called AWE, the Ordinary AWE hadn't happened yet (which begs questions about when Control is set if they are going to try and keep the mention of Ordinary in American Nightmare and This House of Dreams canon, although I expect they won't).

So I think plans changed. It seems like Ordinary was going to be the setting for an Alan Wake 2 (The Return) and it was going to feature the AWE in some way.

This morphed into a game focused on the AWE (now the FBC) and some of the ideas for the events that were going to take place in Ordinary, presumably became the basis for the Ordinary AWE we hear about in Control. The Not Mother, and all that uber creepy shit were presumably part of that concept. It really stands out as being tonally different (in a good way) and having a lot of thought put into it, when it could have just been 'stuff went bad, adults all disappeared' etc. Instead it's a timeline of events, multiple locations, slides, and entities, etc.

yeah, interesting. I'm sure plans changed along the way, but it's cool that they had a rough idea of where this is going so far back. Lake really loves that storytelling technique from Lost where they'll show something that seems mundane and then keep returning to the same sequence and revealing more and more significance

teague · Sep 11, 2019

So did we figure out exactly when DLC will be hitting Xbox? Apologies if someone posted the answer already.

Deleted member 21003 · Sep 11, 2019

tulpa said:
seems that way! the connections aren't as explicit as with Alan Wake, but considering all the AWE stuff littered around that game, the stutter phenomena and the "break" in time seems potentially like another altered world event

yeah, it is. it's worth playing. it's not nearly as good as Control but for my money Control is also one of the best games I've ever played, so it's a high bar.

yeah, interesting. I'm sure plans changed along the way, but it's cool that they had a rough idea of where this is going so far back. Lake really loves that storytelling technique from Lost where they'll show something that seems mundane and then keep returning to the same sequence and revealing more and more significance

Cool. I guess I'll play it after I beat Control.

tulpa · Sep 11, 2019

bonkasaurus said:
Cool. I guess I'll play it after I beat Control.

it's kind of hard to go back to QB right after Control (which is what I did too) because the movement is so much less fluid and the shooting is less responsive than in Control. they really have massively massively improved so many things from QB

plagiarize · Sep 11, 2019

tulpa said:
it's kind of hard to go back to QB right after Control (which is what I did too) because the movement is so much less fluid and the shooting is less responsive than in Control. they really have massively massively improved so many things from QB

I'm tempted to finally get that Steam version so I can actually experience it with good performance. It's still all over the place in the DX12 version even on a 2080 Ti.

tulpa · Sep 11, 2019

plagiarize said:
I'm tempted to finally get that Steam version so I can actually experience it with good performance. It's still all over the place in the DX12 version even on a 2080 Ti.

to be fair, the DX11/win32 version is still kinda all over the place, especially if you turn off the reconstruction. But it's definitely better than the UWP version

Deleted member 9317 · Sep 11, 2019

Prompto said:
Guess I need to play Alan Wake before that second expansion is out

Here's hoping we get the rumored ports soon.

Jon God · Sep 11, 2019

I already bought this game. Should I buy more copies to support the hope of Alan Wake 2?

wallmeat · Sep 11, 2019

Luke_wal said:
If Jesse meets Alan Wake (the character), and there's not immediately a "previously, on Alan Wake," I will be deeply disappointed in this video game that I love.

YES!

A1an · Sep 11, 2019

Looks good, interested in what the second DLC is going to be, still working my way through the main game.

ry-dog · Sep 11, 2019

plagiarize said:
Control talks of many realities and bridges between them. Max Payne and Quantum Break seem like different realities to the one Control takes place in. Jesse Fayden and Alan Wake are very clearly from the same universe.

Whereas Alan Wake I think is set in the same universe, objects of power describe most of the weird shit in the game (aka the type writer)

SnakeXs · Sep 11, 2019

Sorry for the noob outsider of interest question but are consoles expected to have the performance issues addressed? Are they as bad as some have made it seem?

Oneandonly16 · Sep 11, 2019

If more

plagiarize said:
Control talks of many realities and bridges between them. Max Payne and Quantum Break seem like different realities to the one Control takes place in. Jesse Fayden and Alan Wake are very clearly from the same universe.

I think the Alan Wake is mentioned directly in Quantum Break. I think the 3 of them are all of the same universe with Max Payne being the outlier.

Vex · Sep 11, 2019

My hope is that "expeditions" is a rogue-like/rogue-lite gameplay mode where you set out and acquire random powers/weapons while fighting against progressively difficult enemies/randomly generated areas everytime you set out on an expedition youd get a uniquely generated biome/tileset!

That prey dlc was cool when they did that.

Remo Williams · Sep 11, 2019

teague said:
So did we figure out exactly when DLC will be hitting Xbox? Apologies if someone posted the answer already.

Not to my knowledge, so this roadmap should be marked with an asterisk. Mind you, it's both Xbox and PC that are delayed.

Mr Delabee · Sep 11, 2019

May 2020 will be Alan Wake's 10th Anniversary, would be great if they had a remaster heading out next year but I'll happily take the Control DLC.

ry-dog · Sep 11, 2019

Imran said:
Are they?

In one of Dylan's dreams, he talks vaguely about Alan Wake and his cop character. He mentions that, in another reality, that cop is real. It seems like they're hinting at Max Payne without being able to say it.

I think that cop is agent nightingale (the FBI agent in Alan wake). He had reoccurring dreams of Alan Wake, which is what drove him to the town in the first place. There was another guy too who had dreams with Alan Wake in a them (that intro sequence, the person who helps you over the bridge, he's called Clay Stewart, and his journal in the collectors edition documents his dreams and journey of looking for Alan).

So basically there's a bunch of people having dreams with Alan Wake in them, and unless you bought the collectors edition, you probably would have missed it.

Deleted member 679 · Sep 11, 2019

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plagiarize · Sep 11, 2019

Oneandonly16 said:
If more

I think the Alan Wake is mentioned directly in Quantum Break. I think the 3 of them are all of the same universe with Max Payne being the outlier.

I think it's pretty telling that Remedy don't own the publishing rights to Quantum Break (while they DO own the publishing rights to Alan Wake), and that Control has little to no references to Quantum Break.

Kamaros · Sep 11, 2019

tulpa said:
it's hugely significant! this thread is openly spoiling end sections of the game so i wouldn't recommend doing too much reading in here if you want to discover stuff for yourself in control

Nice, i will see myself out until i finish the game, then.

Thx

Oneandonly16 · Sep 11, 2019

plagiarize said:
I think it's pretty telling that Remedy don't own the publishing rights to Quantum Break (while they DO own the publishing rights to Alan Wake), and that Control has little to no references to Quantum Break.

Yeah that makes sense. I didn't know that they didn't own the rights to Quantum Break.

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