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Pooh

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With a name like that you half-expect they would have figured out some way to charge him for terrorism. It's right that he's convicted of a murder but it's also an injustice that he is clearly being treated differently from other cops because of his skin color and name.
 
NihilisticKing

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I guess Officer Holtzclaw in Oklahoma getting 263 years for sexually assaulting African American women surprised people here?
 
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Pooh said:
With a name like that you half-expect they would have figured out some way to charge him for terrorism. It's right that he's convicted of a murder but it's also an injustice that he is clearly being treated differently from other cops because of his skin color and name.
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Why are some of you saying it's right that he was convicted of murder? Are you familiar with the facts surrounding the incident? Simply acting as if this is no different than other unwarranted instances of police murder does a disservice to the fight against the extrajudicial murder of innocent black people by the police. It's very different, and the way it's been reported, prosecuted and framed by the #bluelivesmatter crowd illustrates as much. The reason Mohamed Noor is going to prison is because he's a black male who killed a white woman. Period.
 
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Orwell said:
Why are some of you saying it's right that he was convicted of murder? Are you familiar with the facts of surrounding the incident? Simply acting as if this is no different than other unwarranted instances of police murder does a disservice to the fight against the extrajudicial murder of innocent black people by the police. It's very different, and the way it's been reported, prosecuted and framed by the #bluelivesmatter crowd illustrates as much.
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True, I didn't see all of the evidence, I'm just basing it on what I've read from news reports. If you have something indicating he didn't shoot and kill an unarmed woman I'd be all ears, as I'm sure he would be too, since in court he said, "The moment I pulled the trigger, I felt fear. The moment I walked around and saw Miss Ruszczyk dying on the ground, I felt horror. I knew in that instant that I was wrong."
 
AlexBasch

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So the entire trial was: "You're black dumbass, you can't kill people, even worse a white woman; like the rest of the boys in blue, you're going to jail"?
 
SliceSabre

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While certainly believe he deserves jail time they only went in on him because he's not a white cop, his name, and his victim was a white woman.
 

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I have a feeling that if he was white, he would have been found innocent like most other people have observed.
 

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NihilisticKing said:
I guess Officer Holtzclaw in Oklahoma getting 263 years for sexually assaulting African American women surprised people here?
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Major difference between a cop going down for multiple sexual assault's which doesn't have a ready made justification vs I feared for my life and just wanted to make it home defense that almost always works.
 
wadsappening

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Man, I just looked up what happened in the Sam DuBose case and they had 2 mistrials and aren’t going to try again. Really sad the only way for police officers to be held accountable they have to be black...
 
ParanormalFupa

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I understand the sentiment, but when I look at the jury I don't really buy that he is only being convicted because he is black or Somali. Obviously there still could have been some bias. It's not like the police threw him under the bus either they and the BCA tried to cover this shit up and pin it on the victim. They have been supportive of Noor throughout. It was a fair trial with competent prosecution and defense convicted by a diverse group of his peers. This is also coming shortly after a non-white officer getting off for the killing of Philando Castile which had far more direct evidence to convict imo.

A jury has been seated in the trial of Mohamed Noor, the former Minneapolis police officer facing charges in the shooting death of 911 caller Justine Ruszczyk.

Jurors include a night manager at a grocery store, a Minneapolis firefighter, a railroad engineer, a carpenter who writes on the side, a gynecologist, an immigration officer, an investment consultant and a retired computer analyst.

There are 12 men and four women, including alternates. Six appear to be people of color.

25 potential jurors had been excused in the case. Some were excused for anti-Somali statements, but others were excused because they could not find child care or couldn't afford to skip a paycheck for the duration of the trial.

Here are details on the 16 jurors chosen for the Noor trial. The information comes from questionnaires as well as from their initial questioning by the trial lawyers.

• A younger man who works as an overnight manager at a grocery store. During questioning, he said he's used to resolving conflicts with coworkers and listens to concerns. His first impression of Noor was "just how calm he was."
• A man who appears to be indigenous. He spoke to attorneys about his experience with bias. He works as a civil engineer.
• A writer and a carpenter. "Truth has no rank" he wrote on his questionnaire according to one of the defense attorneys interviewing him during initial questioning. "Is the truth a process at times?" defense attorney Thomas Plunkett asked, to which he answered, "yes."
• A gynecologist who spoke to attorneys about bias she's faced as a person of color in her profession. People assume she's a nurse or a lab technician and challenge her knowledge as a physician.
• A young man who works as a restaurant host. He said he immigrated here from the Philippines. He said he's aware of incidents of police shootings through social media, especially involving black men.
• A man who said he immigrated from Ethiopia and works with surgical tools at a hospital.
• A firefighter and paramedic who said he knew three people on the prosecution's witness list. He said he works closely with Minneapolis police but thinks he would be fair.
• A man who says he immigrated from the Philippines and now works for the Department of Homeland Security as an immigration officer who adjudicates cases.
• A man who works in financial services. In questioning about bias in the criminal justice system, he said "I believe it is possible that it exists and that there is data to support it" but that his job as a juror is to focus on the facts of this case.
• An electrical foreman. He said he has military experience and has served on another jury in the past.
• A baker who leads groups on addiction and mental health. He's previously worked with people with special needs.
• A woman who works in a dental clinic. She said she immigrated from Pakistan.
• A woman who is a retired computer analyst who worked at Wells Fargo.
• A man who was concerned that he isn't qualified to serve on the jury in this case. The judge reassured him that he will come to a decision with the other members of the jury.
• A man who works as a software developer. He said in his questionnaire that the criminal justice system can be unfair. But during questioning he said that the justice system is imperfect, but that he believes in it.
• A woman who was laid off from her job in March. She is a gun owner who hunts deer and shoots clay pigeons for sport. She said that she would generally give police officers who testify more credit than civilians and that she would find it difficult to convict a police officer. But under questioning from the judge, she said she could be fair.
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Commedieu

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Poor woman. Its not justice because it will happen to someone else weekly.

And the cops likely won't even see this type of punishment. This one was high profile due to her being australian iirc.
 

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I know that police unions ostensibly protect black cops as vociferously as white cops but are there stats on the difference in outcomes? Obviously juries and other externalities make a huge difference too but the outcomes shouldn’t be measurable anyway.

And the police union is arguably the most directly powerful and influential in America yet it’s members tend to vote for the party and candidates doing extremely hard work to completely destroy unions - is the thinking that the police union will be the exception to that- and how do other unions view the police union as a result?
 
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BlackFyre said:
Not just white, but attractive.

We can't have dark Skinned "Moslems" taking away our white, attractive women.

The only reason he got 12 year sentence is that he was a cop.

Otherwise life in prison or execution.
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This post right here is a bizarro-world table turning of victim and accused,

the victim in this case was calling 911 to help a situation when she heard an assault in progress in the alley.
She got out of her house to flag to police car and knocked on the winshiled.

the dumb passenger cop fired his gun from the passenger seat across the other cop who was the wheel and killed the woman standing next to driver's window.

His partner (driver cop) flattly told everyone that the use of the gun was wrecklessly unjustified and dangerous (passenger cop)

the big sentence has more to do with his partner being a cop himself and the chief witness
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Again, for all you in this thread going bonkers. His partner witnessed everything and is the witness who corroborated everything.
 
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