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Coronavirus Discussion Thread (See Staff Post) [UPDATE: WHO declares global emergency. See threadmarks]
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South Korea is really working hard to find every possible case they can. So it was true what was mentioned earlier, that the spike in cases could be the result of a significant increase in the number of people they're screening everyday.
Also, Iran:
www.reuters.com
Also, Iran:
U.S. prepares for coronavirus pandemic, school and business closures: health officials
U.S. health officials on Friday said they are preparing for the possibility of the spread of the new coronavirus through U.S. communities that would force closures of schools and businesses.
www.reuters.com
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The huge spike in people being tested is because of it being passed around in a cult church. Apparently they had someone fly in from the Wuhan branch and passed it amongst themselves for quite a while before then going out in the public and passing it to everyone else.
We may not have a vaccine yet but we got good ol fashioned lead!
Edit: Wait on a more serious note since numbers are climbing so rapidly in places like SK now are countries gonna start locking down flights to/from there too?
What exactly happens in the event that they announce this as a global pandemic?
China has done a decent job because they have complete control over the people. With this spreading in Korea now, it becomes a lot more difficult to lock people in their homes per government order. That becomes very complicated to do in free, democratic countries. That's why it was so important to try to contain it in China, and treat those external cases with the upmost care, especially once we learned how contagious it is. Unfortunately, as we've seen in Japan, and now Korea, it didn't work.
As a resident of Seoul, I'm still hopeful and positive that this will be contained, but this large outbreak in Korea in the last 48 hours isn't very reassuring.
Today I started to do the same. If a South Korean city of 2.5 million can be locked down overnight, it's only prudent to me to be prepared with food and medical supplies to carry my family for at least a couple of weeks.
These motherfuckers!
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200222_03/
"NHK has learned that a large number of health ministry officials who boarded the cruise ship quarantined near Tokyo were allowed to return to their workplace without being tested for the new coronavirus. "
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200222_03/
"NHK has learned that a large number of health ministry officials who boarded the cruise ship quarantined near Tokyo were allowed to return to their workplace without being tested for the new coronavirus. "
Dude... (!)
Wait... Does that mean it was intentional? :|
If Caitlin Rivers says it's time to prepare for a pandemic then it's fucking time to prepare for a pandemic.
Seriously... I think Japan is more worrisome than South Korea now. At least they are taking action to contain this but Japan is like....
I'd say the SK government has handled this far better than Japan. The high numbers combined with the high number of people being tested means Korea is doing its best to weed this disease out.
I wouldn't be surprised if the infection rate in Japan is similar, yet the numbers are low because the government response has been far weaker.
I'm guessing most state and local agencies are working on that.
If this helps people stockpile some supplies for emergencies, than there is a silver lining here.
Probably not at first. But there is a rumour going around that in order to rid their association with the virus (the huge spike is attributed to them), the cult has ordered followers to not attend their regular mass and go to regular churches and spread it there to make it a "church issue" rather than a "Shincheonji issue".
So we look to have serious community transmission in Iran and South Korea, with Japan not far behind. Iran one is worrying as that probably won't be contained.
Honestly, you should just keep it stored away and forget about it until it starts approaching the expiration, and eat it then.
70? Wasn't it 34 cases? People are asking them if it was just a mistake on their part (CBS).
I just found this:
I just found this:
Korea's virus cases surge to 433 on church services, cluster outbreak at hospital
South Korea reported 229 new cases of the new coronavirus on Saturday, the largest spike in a single day since its first outbreak in late January, bringing the total number of infections in the nation to 433. The number of COVID-19 infections here has soared in the past few days, with most...
www.koreaherald.com
ruh roh
With cults, anything could happen, unfortunately. What you just said could explain why they're going to quarantine 9,000 members of that church.
SK is doing a good job honestly all things considered. Testing as many people as humanly possible, shutting shit down, etc. There were barely any cases before this cult shit hit the fan.
Japan seems like a ticking time bomb. Let's see where they are two weeks out from letting the Diamond Princess passengers loose.
Japan seems like a ticking time bomb. Let's see where they are two weeks out from letting the Diamond Princess passengers loose.
With such an increase in the number of cases in Japan and S.Korea, I wonder why the Philippines has such a low number of confirmed cases. On the other hand, people under investigation has reached 597 but 455 has been discharged. Only 3 confirmed cases and 1 death so far.
We couldn't have gotten that lucky. I'm just scared waiting for the other shoe to drop. I live near an airport and there are a lot of Chinese tourist around my area. And my mom has COPD and diabetes and my grandma is 93 years old, both are especially vulnerable to the virus.
Has there been any sign that hot weather prevents the spread of the virus? Temperature around my area ranged from 24-32 degree C.
We couldn't have gotten that lucky. I'm just scared waiting for the other shoe to drop. I live near an airport and there are a lot of Chinese tourist around my area. And my mom has COPD and diabetes and my grandma is 93 years old, both are especially vulnerable to the virus.
Has there been any sign that hot weather prevents the spread of the virus? Temperature around my area ranged from 24-32 degree C.
If they were there for like 2 hours then testing them would show nothing anyway.
If that was true there should be jail time or something for trying to intentionally spread this
Nah, the thought is to buy things you normally would use, and just use it and replenish as you go, that way you have non expired goods at all times.
I'm more worried about this cult shit than the natural spread of a already fast to spread virus. We definitely have loonies in America who would do that.
There's still deep and varied mistrust between the three, and no one wants to start a diplomatic incident by, say, blocking travel incoming from China, even if it was possibly the right thing to do objectively at one point. There are also the huge economic and tourism ties between them that no one wants disrupted.
If this got to freaking Iran--and early on seemingly--There could be oddities like this in tons of other developing nations where there's just no way to ever test anyone, or less infrastructure to try to track everything in the first place.
Yeah, fuck this town's mayor and political leaders.
Let the CDC and healthcare professional do their job.
That's a lot less likely to be adhered to than actually scheduling it out. Most people aren't going to keep an active rotation going like that, they're just going to go through the supply and then start buying JIT as usual.
People are a lot more likely to maintain emergency kits if they treat them as emergency kits, meaning as separate entities set aside from the normal food supply. The idea is to pull food out to use when it's a reasonable amount of time away from expiration and replacing it immediately.
Depends on how much you trust the numbers from the CCP. Especially since they've changed the definition of what a positive is.
This seeming to blow up at the community level in SK and Japan is the big story of the past couple days, regardless of what's going on in China. The Iran thing is also super weird.
Okay that also sounds less-than-great.
How can they just... not go to work for 10 days? 50,000 people across 10 towns? What happens with their pay checks? Is this something only Americans worry about and Italy has their shit together for something like this? I keep thinking about how retail workers are going to suffer if/when this hits the US, companies here don't just... let people not come to work - even when they're sick, let alone as a preventative measure.
I think you are underestimating what western country can do.
If there is political will the most country have laws that can do what China has done.
It wouldn't fly in most countries though, you can bet at least somewhere there would be revolts.
In Italy normally you have unlimited sick leave (after a bit you will lose some % of a paycheck).
I think it's paid by the same institution that pays pension checks if the leave extends over x days.
Of course, it's not designed for something like this (such quantity) they will probably have to top up the fund from general taxation. Or just leave it in the red like politician like doing.
Vissel Kobe have their opening J-League match tomorrow and have banned the following due to the Coronavirus:
Songs
Chants
Flags
Support involving personal contact (eg putting arms around shoulders
Instruments
Megaphones
Basically they've ordered fans to watch the match in silence.
Songs
Chants
Flags
Support involving personal contact (eg putting arms around shoulders
Instruments
Megaphones
Basically they've ordered fans to watch the match in silence.
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