Air Canada went ahead and cancelled my scheduled flight to Taiwan without my input.
At least they gave all the money back without any fuss, but I'm still a bit salty, lol
My vacation has been ruined~~~~
Yeah, if anything major happens, my intuition is that it'll be less severe, but longer-lasting as it slowly works through the sprawl.Toronto is the 4th most populous city in North America, and it's been pretty much a non-event here. We've had three cases of it, two of them discovered a couple of weeks ago, and that's about it so far. If our crowded and extensive transit system hasn't spread it yet, I have my doubts about any major impact.
The spread depends. The most virulent would be symptomatic sufferers in intimate contact with other people. Many dinners and meetings don't rise to that level, and even if asymptomatic spread is possible, in all likelihood it accounts for far fewer infections. Besides, you're missing the point. For every infected person, there's far more empty space and air for the viral particles to fall short in than in many places on earth. The cities also tend to sprawl more than many world cities of note as well.But if you look at all the cluster case in HK/Singapore/Germany, then all you need is a few hours of dinner / meeting for it to spread to multiple people and their family.
This this a joke?
Absolutely. They were a bit slow to act this time, but they generally know what they're talking about.No, I'm just asking if most people would be more comfortable with the information and advice from this organization over local governments ?
New cases ? I thought it was just the one?New cases found in London Lewisham ,very close to my home.
Man, I have to travel by tube for at least 1 hour every day from southeast to west London. With that amount of people squeeze into tiny train car, it's just a matter of time before this thing get spread out uncontrollably. Imagine for one unknown infected person get into there...
It's absolute nonsense that this will only seriously affect second and third world countries. If the virus spreads in Europe, Japan, United stages etc the exact same thing will happen that happened in China.4. It's very likely things will be quieter by then. The only place with a serious outbreak currently is China, and it's likely that only second/third world countries will be affected as such
5. The virus is only really a true danger if you're old or infirm (I.e. immunosuppressed).
If the latter is the case, then that's fair enough. It's the only real reason I can think it's actually worth being seriously worried about this.
Wouldn't that make people more prepared if they knew China was lying?Has that contributed to potential lack of preparedness in other countries?
I get infections in my sinuses very easily due to my terrible allergies so it is a concern.If you are immunocompromised then maybe. I think you can wait a bit longer to see if it trends down.
If I cancel my Japan trip I'll probably go to WDW lol. No cases anywhere near there yet. They also don't really get Chinese tourists. Some Japanese, but not really Chinese.I'm due to go to Disney World from London in May. Not expecting disruption to it just yet, but absolutely got that creeping feeling this virus will screw it up somewhere down the line, especially after I already reorganised the trip from last year due to Hurricane Dorian (which, of course, ended up scraping by & missing...). Of course, there are bigger hardships that are/would be out there due to any existing or possible future travel disruption but... Selfishly, it would stink.
That's my point. If all the world leaders knew for certain how bad it is from the start, they'd have to act boldly, decisively and early. For example, Trump doesn't want to act, he barely even talks about this and when he does it's to downplay it as no big deal, and the published numbers give cover for that.Wouldn't that make people more prepared if they knew China was lying?
So why does everyone in Asia think this is bullshit advice?
Team never mask will never be a thing because at the end of the day paranoia always trumps science unfortunately...Shouldn't washing hands more often be the message ?
Coronavirus confirmed in quarantined patient in San Antonio.
First case of coronavirus identified in Texas; group returning from China quarantined in San Antonio
The patient is among a group of people who returned from Hubei Province, China, and are under federal quarantine at a military base in San Antonio.www.texastribune.org
The patient has literally never stepped out of quarantine lol
See my post 5,705 on this page.
I've always wondered in American how it would work for something like this for people who didn't have good health care and couldn't afford to stay in the hospital for days or even get tested.
Lol so the 'super spreader' and most of the infected are in Brighton which is where I go to uni and now I find out that the London woman who went to A&E is in Lewisham, which is in the same part of South London that I live. My barber is also in Lewisham and I was planning on getting my haircut tomorrow. And to add insult to injury she was in Heathrow a few days ago and so was I having just come back from Colombia. What are the fucking chances.
I've got a cold but I'm assuming its just from going from a super hot climate to a cold one at the moment.
The Toronto patient carried the virus to the plane and managed to infect no one despite a 15 hours flight. So I guess just being in the same airport would put you in the "super ultra low risk" category.
I'll be honest, it would take a lot for me to wear a mask. I know it's probably dumb or stubborn of me to feel that way.Team never mask will never be a thing because at the end of the day paranoia always trumps science unfortunately...Shouldn't washing hands more often be the message ?
Masks are less about preventing you from contracting it, and more about preventing you from spreading it.I'll be honest, it would take a lot for me to wear a mask. I know it's probably dumb or stubborn of me to feel that way.
I never said it would not "seriously affect" first world countries. I said "affected as such", basically meaning a crazy widespread outbreak in every city like it is in China. While it's deffo gonna spread in first world countries it won't be the ubiquitous horrorshow it'll be in developing ones - like how it is in China.It's absolute nonsense that this will only seriously affect second and third world countries. If the virus spreads in Europe, Japan, United stages etc the exact same thing will happen that happened in China.
Also saying that only the old or sick are at risk is severely understating it.
"Could" covers a lot of range here.Ira Longini at the WHO is predicting that up to two-thirds of the world population could catch COVID-19:
Coronavirus could infect two-thirds of globe, top scientist says
As the number of coronavirus cases jumps dramatically in China, a top infectious-disease scientist warns that things could get far worse: two-thirds of the world's population could catch it.www.smh.com.au
Ira Longini at the WHO is predicting that up to two-thirds of the world population could catch COVID-19:
Coronavirus could infect two-thirds of globe, top scientist says
As the number of coronavirus cases jumps dramatically in China, a top infectious-disease scientist warns that things could get far worse: two-thirds of the world's population could catch it.www.smh.com.au
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we know if yesterday's clinically diagnosed numbers were just for that 1 day or if they also added all the numbers for the days before that. Today's numbers should give a good insight on that I think, if we just have a regular increase or drop like previous days that means China did not add numbers for days before February 12th, which means the true death count could indeed be twice as high as reported.So does the new numbers from China mean that there's been 200+ deaths daily while they were reporting a 100?
Ira Longini is co-director of the Centre for Statistics and Quantitative Infectious Diseases at the University of Florida, and a WHO adviser, so rather than being an idiot I'd say they're fairly well informed on this stuff. That's not to say they're right of course, but not an idiot.lol.. how the hell would the last third avoid it. I'm more and more convinced that the WHO is full of idiots.
It's not like its going to stop by it self.
It would require countries to never let anybody into their country ever again. If COVID-19 isnt stopped it will become another flu travelling the world
Ira Longini is co-director of the Centre for Statistics and Quantitative Infectious Diseases at the University of Florida, so rather than being an idiot I'd say they're fairly well informed on this stuff. That's not to say they're right, just that they have good reason to make that claim.
Yes? The thing with the flu is that it evolves so rapidly that multiple strains outpace it annually.so do you know anyone who is immune to the flu?
i think he might be trying say something else.. but not sure what
I guess they have to model the number of people who live in isolated or remote communities. How infectious the disease is. Incubation times. Amount of human to human contact. Etc. I don't know, I'm not a WHO adviser on infectious diseases.so do you know anyone who is immune to the flu?
i think he might be trying say something else.. but not sure what
So you personally think WHO advice should not be based on science but on "asian" peoples feelings?
I live in China and face masks are promoted as the only way for healthy people to be outdoors, meanwhile I see no soap or hand washing in the public bathrooms, even at fancy malls
Just by the nature of infectious diseases not everyone in the world is going to catch it. Even in the United States not every single person catches the flu.lol.. how the hell would the last third avoid it. I'm more and more convinced that the WHO is full of idiots.
It's not like its going to stop by itself.
It would require countries to never let anybody into their country ever again. If COVID-19 isnt stopped it will become another flu travelling the world