Countries with the best quality of life in the world 2019 - US News Report

Commedieu

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Nov 11, 2017
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Americans make excuses of affordability...
But write blank checks of billions to the military...and israel...

But nope. No money for quality of life.

Thats the dream apparently.
 

fanboi

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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Sweden
Are POC accepted in Scandinavian countries?
I would say yes, but we have (Sweden) drifted towards more racism due to right wing populism and the refugee waves which have lead to middle eastern people probably have the hardest time currently.

EDIT: I am white so I wouldn't be the most reliable source, to clarify.
 

fanboi

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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Sweden
Just been to Stockholm for a week and I can believe that Sweden ranking. Incredible public hospitals, reliable and modern public transport, spotless streets, polite and respectful people, beautiful environment, massive push on recycling. I genuinely felt quite depressed at the thought of returning to London at the end of my trip, it felt like everything a well-funded, fully functioning modern city should be and I didn't even just go to the rich/touristy areas either. And that's without even getting into their world-class social security systems.

It was very expensive though. Alcohol prices were ridiculous (about £15 for a cocktail or £10 for a glass of wine) and restaurant prices weren't much better. You'd struggle to find a decent main course alone for less than £15-20 even in the cheaper places.

Whether I would want to live there in the middle of a dark, cold winter is another matter entirely though.
Taxes, hence why expensive beers :P

Need to pay for that healtcare and social security network.
 

DukeBlueBall

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Oct 27, 2017
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Singapore is #18? Too low.
China top 20? Maybe in 10 years.
India top 30? Maybe in 20-30 years.

I don't think they properly account environment standards.
 

ItsBobbyDarin

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Oct 28, 2017
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Egyptian residing in Denmark
Let's not learn something from those nordic democratic socialist countries about how they do things to perhaps improve our quality of life, we're America...the land of no we cant because our corporate overlords said so, so let's just get the media and the politicians to parrot that until people believe it.

:( Bringing up lists like this is always such a sad gutpunch
We are not a socialist country.
 

ItsBobbyDarin

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Oct 28, 2017
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If your going to respond to me, actually post something worth responding to next time
Ok... We are still not a socialist country. Higher taxes does not equal socialism. Our markets are free and determined by supply and demand, we are pure capitalist.

I hope that clarifies.

Are POC accepted in Scandinavian countries?
Yeah it's fine. We have parties that are racist like everywhere else in the world, but not some gruesome nazis one in parliament. People are very open and caring. Can't speak so much for Sweden though, I have only been there a few times in regards to vacation... but they are the also the weirdos in Scandinavian. ;)
 

Tuppen

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Nov 28, 2017
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Are POC accepted in Scandinavian countries?
Well according to Breitbart, RT and the like Sweden is turning in to a Muslim nation with sharia laws incoming. So I guess the answer is yes.
I'm not surprised in the least that most countries here have a population of less than 10 million. Australia and Canada being higher and Germany being the most populated. It's just so much easy to provide a good and stable life to a smaller, more homogeneous population compared to a diverse country of several hundred million or billion.

And what is a manageable problem for a nation of 6 million may be a complete and utter clusterfuck for a nation of 400 million.
There is always an excuse isn't there? To much people, to sparsely populated, to diverse a population or what have you. The real reason is lack of political will to change the system. (This is of course not directed at you personally but the American politicians and electorate as a whole.)
 

phonicjoy

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Jun 19, 2018
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Except the cost of rent and other goods in the US is 3X higher, so elevating the income tax rate to lets say 50% marginal over everyone making over $60,000 to pay for every "free" amenity Nordic countries have will lead to disastrous results.
Where the hell do you get that from. Maybe for the most popular cities in the US, certainly not in general.
Even in New York food was "cheap" to me.
besides, loads of people get rent subsidies here, we actually build social housing, and pay way less for health insurance so you dont go broke when you get the flue.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Well according to Breitbart, RT and the like Sweden is turning in to a Muslim nation with sharia laws incoming. So I guess the answer is yes.

There is always an excuse isn't there? To much people, to sparsely populated, to diverse a population or what have you. The real reason is lack of political will to change the system. (This is of course not directed at you personally but the American politicians and electorate as a whole.)
I just think if you look at the top 10 most populated countries they all have significant and large problems compared to a place like Norway or Denmark. Maybe it's all just a big coincidence, but I doubt it.

You've got China, India, US, Pakistan, Brazil, Nigeria, Bangladesh, Russia, and Mexico for the most populated. Out of that list, I'd say the US is by far and away the most preferable place to live. But those countries are hardly the A-listers when it comes to quality of life, etc.

I'm not really disagreeing about political will though. More people will usually mean more disagreements and differing ideas of how to run a country. And you will need a strong will to break through and make meaningful change.
 

mjAUT

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Oct 31, 2017
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Austria
Scared to put Austria on the list, eh? Cowards.
...no really, odd to leave us out.
Yup, that's really an odd list and I wonder how they selected the contries to be on it. It's obviously not based on population size, and they completely disregard the fact that Vienna now has a 10 year streak as the most livable city on earth. I'd definitely rather live here than in Iraq which made the list..

Edit: This were their selection criteria:

The 80 countries in the 2019 Best Countries rankings had to meet four criteria within the most recent year for which data are available specific to each benchmark to be included in the study:
  • Top 100 countries in terms of gross domestic product in 2016, based on World Bank data
  • Top 100 countries in terms of foreign direct investment inflows in 2016, based on World Bank data
  • Top 100 countries in terms of international tourism receipts in 2016, based on World Bank data
  • Top 150 countries in the U.N.'s Human Development Index, based on the 2016 report
Austria is present on all of these lists and in a much higher position than 80. So what's going on here?
 
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Fevaweva

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Oct 30, 2017
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people have a lot of negativity and doom and gloom about the UK's currently political climate, but it's not a bad place to live at all. people acting like it's some shithole.
Hey I am British and I have a lot of negativity around the QoL here. But, thinking about it a bit more objectivity, it is a nice place to live for the most part.
 

Pellaidh

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Oct 26, 2017
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So according to the country details in this list, the US has a better public health and public education system than a large portion of EU countries. I wonder how that's supposed to work. The safety rankings also seem to be way different to every other list I've seen online.

As for the list itself, apparently my country is significantly worse to live in than Qatar (where slavery is still a thing), Japan (known for overworking its population literally to death), Hungary (a county whose leader calls an illiberal democracy), and Russia (a dictatorship with the highest male suicide rate in the world). That's news to me.

Although from reading the methodology, this list was made by asking a specifically selected subset of people (like rich businessmen or college educated people) from 36 countries what they think other countries are like. So it's really more a popularity contest than an actual objective assessment of quality of life. In which case the list makes way more sense.

Yup, that's really an odd list and I wonder how they selected the contries to be on it. It's obviously not based on population size, and they completely disregard the fact that Vienna now has a 10 year streak as the most livable city on earth. I'd definitely rather live here than in Iraq which made the list..
From the methodology page:

The 80 countries in the 2019 Best Countries rankings had to meet four criteria within the most recent year for which data are available specific to each benchmark to be included in the study:
  • Top 100 countries in terms of gross domestic product in 2016, based on World Bank data
  • Top 100 countries in terms of foreign direct investment inflows in 2016, based on World Bank data
  • Top 100 countries in terms of international tourism receipts in 2016, based on World Bank data
  • Top 150 countries in the U.N.'s Human Development Index, based on the 2016 report
Those that did not reach all four of these benchmarks and those that did not report these statistics were not included.

...

Similarly, five countries failed to meet all four benchmarks this year and have dropped out of the rankings: Algeria, Austria, Bahrain, Bolivia and Kenya.
 

Slime

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do these lists only take rich people into account? Because that's what you have to be to have a decent quality of life in any of Canada's major cities.
 

phonicjoy

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Jun 19, 2018
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I just think if you look at the top 10 most populated countries they all have significant and large problems compared to a place like Norway or Denmark. Maybe it's all just a big coincidence, but I doubt it.

You've got China, India, US, Pakistan, Brazil, Nigeria, Bangladesh, Russia, and Mexico for the most populated. Out of that list, I'd say the US is by far and away the most preferable place to live. But those countries are hardly the A-listers when it comes to quality of life, etc.

I'm not really disagreeing about political will though. More people will usually mean more disagreements and differing ideas of how to run a country. And you will need a strong will to break through and make meaningful change.
I just pulled up a list of the most densely populated countries. All tiny places, and the there is The Netherlands at 29. I'm guessing you mean largest population in general, but thats all a matter of political structure.
 

Westbahnhof

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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Austria
Yup, that's really an odd list and I wonder how they selected the contries to be on it. It's obviously not based on population size, and they completely disregard the fact that Vienna now has a 10 year streak as the most livable city on earth. I'd definitely rather live here than in Iraq which made the list..

Edit: This were their selection criteria:



Austria is present on all of these lists and in a much higher position than 80. So what's going on here?
Clearly paid off by our rival countries. Whoever they are.
 

MartinB105

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Nov 8, 2017
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Being a Brit living in the Netherlands, I honestly can't imagine any country being better than the Netherlands, at least for me. Public transport is excellent (even better than Germany in my experience, which is overrated these days), and the cycling road infrastructure is amazing. It's literally completely unnecessary to own a car.

I wonder how Canada fares in that regard; I know the USA is horrible for getting around without a car, but I've never been to Canada or heard much about their transport systems.
 

Roygbiv95

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Jan 24, 2019
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Probably because Canada sorta takes the concept of capitalism but instead of using it to benefit mostly the rich it's used to combine the best ideas of other governments and capitalize on them to improve the quality of life of as many of its citizens as possible.

Kinda surprised to see Australia there though. Insert obligatory joke grounded in some truth about how insane nature is over there, etc.
 

Brood

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Nov 8, 2018
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For white people*. I don't know about the situation in Canada or New Zealand, but rest have major problems with racism and xenophobia.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'm not surprised in the least that most countries here have a population of less than 10 million. Australia and Canada being higher and Germany being the most populated. It's just so much easy to provide a good and stable life to a smaller, more homogeneous population compared to a diverse country of several hundred million or billion.

And what is a manageable problem for a nation of 6 million may be a complete and utter clusterfuck for a nation of 400 million.
Bullshit. Besides a couple on that list USAs GDP per capita is over most of theirs.. Canada's is 42k USD for GDP per capita and USA's is close to 60k per person. So nah. We have more than enough money to adopt many of these same systems. The population argument is nothing but grade A bullshit.
 

DrSlek

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Oct 29, 2017
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Why is Australia #7 and NZ #9 when we dont have an entire ecosystem revolving around things that will try and kill you?
(Spiders, Snakes, Dropbears, you name it)
The Australian government keeps implementing Neo-Liberal policies and has driven the country into recession. Give it a bit of time and we'll drop out of the top 10 pretty quickly.
 

elenarie

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Being a Brit living in the Netherlands, I honestly can't imagine any country being better than the Netherlands, at least for me. Public transport is excellent (even better than Germany in my experience, which is overrated these days), and the cycling road infrastructure is amazing. It's literally completely unnecessary to own a car.

I wonder how Canada fares in that regard; I know the USA is horrible for getting around without a car, but I've never been to Canada or heard much about their transport systems.
Not sure about Canada, but 6 years in Sweden, I've never needed a car to go anywhere. Public transport is available usually within 5 minutes walk from any place in both Stockholm and Uppsala, the two places I've lived in.
 

squall23

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Oct 25, 2017
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Canada is nice, but the winter months are brutal. No sun for half the year.
Yeah, but that's off set by summers that rarely go past 34 celcius.
Being a Brit living in the Netherlands, I honestly can't imagine any country being better than the Netherlands, at least for me. Public transport is excellent (even better than Germany in my experience, which is overrated these days), and the cycling road infrastructure is amazing. It's literally completely unnecessary to own a car.

I wonder how Canada fares in that regard; I know the USA is horrible for getting around without a car, but I've never been to Canada or heard much about their transport systems.
If you're not in Vancouver or Toronto, public transportation is absolute garbage. Especially in the colder cities during winter where trains would suddenly stop running because of how cold it is.