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Heromanz

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,202
The thing is, I would argue that that's a great reason why America should look to strengthen their state governments rather than relying on the federal government to do everything. Take something like the minimum wage - it's really nonsensical for that to be a federal issue because cost of living varies dramatically from state to state and so pretending to have a one size fits all solution doesn't make a heap of sense.

I guess one of the problems is the idea of 'state's rights' has been so poisoned by the Confederacy and them using it as a excuse to be awful and argue for slavery.
States are fucking dumb. If we had it thier way in my state Lgbtq people wouldnt be able to vote
 

Soap

Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,168
I have been to Sweden dozens of times and the quality of life is extremely high, especially when it comes to their attitudes to outdoor activities. However, there is a certain amount of fragility to the Swedish system as evidenced by the rise in some unsavoury political groups there. Quality of life is higher, but it seems like people that actually live there feel like it is getting worse (in my experience it isn't).
 

Jimi D

Member
Oct 27, 2017
306
Except the cost of rent and other goods in the US is 3X higher, so elevating the income tax rate to lets say 50% marginal over everyone making over $60,000 to pay for every "free" amenity Nordic countries have will lead to disastrous results.
What? Where does this come from? Food is cheaper in the US than just about anywhere else in the developed world. Gasoline is about 1/3rd what it costs elsewhere. Consumer goods are significantly cheaper as well. Even mortgage payments are tax deductible for heaven's sake! It's significantly cheaper to live just about anywhere in the US than it is in Canada. Or Sweden, or France, or Britain... when's the last time you spent $4 on a can of Coke?
 

Sloth Guevara

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,331
It's funny seeing these list since Sweden is always held as an example of a fucked up dystopian hell hole by the right wing.
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Wackamole

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,932
Good spot for The Netherlands but there is still a lot to improve. Love that list though.
All seem like the more rational thinking countries in the world. More progressive.
 

indigo blue

Member
Oct 25, 2017
146
Toronto, Ontario
Hm. True, but what would the ranking, for, say, black people look like?

I would still rank Canada as #1 personally. I feel the least threatened navigating spaces, and generally deal with passive aggressive racism with some rare exceptions.

I think some of this is due to legislative protections like The Charter of Rights and Freedoms. There's some comfort knowing the KKK or Westboro Baptist Church can't apply for legal permits to march or gain access to public spaces due to "free speech".

Also Canadians love to be comparatively better than Americans... Especially when it comes to social issues. This is as a second generation Canadian who's parents are from the Caribbean.

Our indigenous people are treated like shit, so I wonder if that's factored in at all for quality of life.
 

killerrin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,237
Toronto
People consistently view a small group of nations as best providing for their citizens. For the fourth consecutive year, Canada ranks No. 1 overall for providing a good quality of life. Survey respondents view the North American country as No. 1 for both being politically stable and having a well-developed public education system

Get ready for Canada to freefall in the statistics considering what Doug Ford and the 'Progressive' Conservatives have started to do to our public services. Specifically the gutting around our public Education system and the war on teachers they started back up again. And that's just one province (albet with 38% of the population) not counting the vast amount of other Conservatives that just got elected this year and last year.

It'll be hard to stay number one when e have all these forces trying to pull us back on service of the rich. Sweden may very well take our title from us and hold it until we recover.
 
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sgtnosboss

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Nov 9, 2017
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Let's not learn something from those nordic democratic socialist countries about how they do things to perhaps improve our quality of life, we're America...the land of no we cant because our corporate overlords said so, so let's just get the media and the politicians to parrot that until people believe it.

:( Bringing up lists like this is always such a sad gutpunch
you said it!
 

olubode

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Oct 28, 2017
1,902
Canada is nice, but the winter months are brutal. No sun for half the year.
This is....an interesting take. Far from correct though.
Do these lists only take rich people into account? Because that's what you have to be to have a decent quality of life in any of Canada's major cities.
This is untrue. It's not easy but there are plenty of low to middle income people that live downtown Toronto. And considering the services and resources available, QoL is pretty amazing. I would argue it better than NYC.
 
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LabRat

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Mar 16, 2018
4,229
live in germany and i would love to upgrade to any of the other countries
especially finland, new zealand and canada
 

Geoff

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,115
UK finishes above France, Ireland and the USA - that's good enough for me.

Also fifth in the overall rankings.

Despite horrendous self-sabotage
 

BowieZ

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Nov 7, 2017
3,972
Let's not learn something from those nordic democratic socialist countries about how they do things to perhaps improve our quality of life, we're America...the land of no we cant because our corporate overlords said so, so let's just get the media and the politicians to parrot that until people believe it.
America needs to remain brutishly capitalist because people won't compete and invent anything otherwise or something