It's basically already dead.
It's undead and still shambling along if you are near theaters with e-ticketing, though.
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Crazy Rich Asians’ Tracking for $18 Million-Plus U.S. Opening, might beat Oscar worthy Alpha OW.
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It's basically already dead.
It's undead and still shambling along if you are near theaters with e-ticketing, though.
Wrong. We don't need to support on the basis that it features an all Asian cast. Projects like Better Luck Tomorrow, Gook, or My Life in China would be better examples to support. Transposing yellow faces onto a universal story with a sprinkle of Asian flavor doesn't do it for me.
For example, we don't need to support Chloe Bennet just because she's a hapa when she's dating and defending Logan Paul. Constance Wu gets my side eye too when she said she has no problem taking up racist roles as long as she's paid more than the white cast. Not to mention that most Asian men need to be supermen in order to be the lead in almost any production, otherwise you're left with Matthew Moy in 2 Broke Girls or that comedy show on BBC that features Chinese women that shit all over Asian guys.
Not all representation is good representation. Support it if you want, but I don't have to just because I'm Asian too.
Haha...I thought I was the only one who felt that way about Off Centre. He's woke as fuck too.
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John is cool as fuck. I met him like 6 years ago.
He's also the only reason I watched this terrible ass show
Which is weird. Are there no asian producers in hollywood? Wheres the asian tyler perry?
It's slowly starting to happen:
Walter Hamada is now heading the DC Universe Films
https://variety.com/2018/film/news/...see-dc-films-production-exclusive-1202652878/
Him and Justin Lin (Fast & Furious director)
I would love to know what happened to the trend in the early 00s to atleast Jet Li and Jackie Chan (co)starring in a whole lot of movies.
Now its just a chinese beauty showing up in the "for the chinese market" segments, with a korean or a elderly japanese guy once in a while.
Did we watch different trailers?
Looks horrible. Jon Chu is a bad filmmaker amd there's no way he can elevate this bland as fuck book. At the same time it's cool that Asian-Americans can enjoy the mediocrity of a generic romcom.
Call me when someone with talent produces a Celeste Ng penned script.
Dunno I liked the lead and her best friend and the movie looked really pretty. Each to their own.
I wanna support this, but I don't really care about romcoms at all. I wish Better Luck Tomorrow had made it big. :/
The novel is taken from the childhood of a Singaporean author and is intended to highlight not only the extravagant culture of excess wrought by the explosive growth of wealth in the region but the growing generational stress it creates between older family members expecting their kids to carry on the old ways and the younger folks who have absorbed western, individualist values.
I have zero clue where you're getting this 'universal story sprinkled with yellow faces' nonsense from.
That's one of my problems too. I like the people in the movie and will go see it because of them.
I just fucking hate Jon Chu
Jet Li's production really fell off due to health problems, and I seem to recall Chan just wanting to do more Chinese stuff because it's a huge market (and he's Chinese lol). Seems interested in Chinese international collaborations too. The British-Chinese co-production "The Foreigner" was great, if you haven't seen it, though very serious.
This isn't the first romcom where the partner is a secret rich person and the main character has to "prove his/herself" to the family.
Not to mention, I must've imagined all the "Asian version of x, y, z" lines in the trailers. That isn't the only problematic thing either. Support it if you want. I don't have to.
"Reaching for mass-appeal" means making it palatable for white people and you're ignoring the other points I'm making. The formula isn't the only problem I have with the movie.
Again, expecting me to support it is like expecting me to support Elaine Chao just because she's Asian while excusing what a garbage person she is. I don't blindly support anyone just because we're the same race.
What's wrong with making a movie starring Asians that non-Asians may also find appealling?
How is this movie bad for Asian representation?
Dan Lin of Lin Pictures has been involved in some prominent films that don't star Asians.
Window dressing doesn't make it a movie about the Asian experience. "We're like you too"-type productions has a place, but when that's all that's made, then it's an issue.
As for representation: when the only Asian males I see are The Superman and minstrels, it's a problem.
Support it if you want, but I won't do it blindly.
Well the significant difference between crazy rich asians and hero/crouching is that crazy rich asians is an american production
I'm glad the movie has such great representation, but it did not look at all like something I would enjoy watching.
So, a film adaptation of a book that was based on an Asian author's actual life in Singapore is window dressing? Has his entire life been a lie to appeal to white audiences then?
You've been pretty adamant that this movie isn't "about the Asian experience" and other forms of "this isn't a real Asian movie" throughout this thread, despite the fact:
- It has an all-Asian cast and an Asian director.
- It's based on a book written by an ethnically Chinese man who was born to one of the Singaporean "royalty" families that the book depicts.
- The entire plot is how a Chinese-American woman is introduced to her boyfriend's family and the reaction is that all of the younger members of the family absolutely adore her for being this refreshing, very American person whereas all of the older members reject her for being not Asian enough (and the ways she is Asian, she's mainland Chinese, which shouldn't mingle with their stratosphere of social group).
- The author's original purpose for writing the novel was to pull back the curtain on the culture and attitudes of this very small subset of an ethnic group in a very small nation in Asia--i.e. Chinese immigrants who came to Singapore decades before China went communist and became rich off of the backs of shipping, financial and other industries.
Though not a producer (yet) Kevin Tsujihara, the CEO of Warner Bros, is Japanese American.
Other producers of Asian descent are Dan Lin (Lethal Weapon tv series,LEGO), Roy Lee (LEGO, It) and James Wan (Conjuring-verse) among others.
Yeah, nearly everyone involved in this is Asian yet Sparda is claiming "NOT ASIAN ENOUGH!" based on some personal, seemingly arbitrary, benchmark
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At least one movie a week releases telling a story about how a parent has certain expectations for a child and the child tries to show them that they have different values and want to take a different path in life. Eventually, the parents see that they are wrong to hold the kid back and that they can still be successful even if they don't follow the old way.
Sound familiar?
I've been seeing trailers for this constantly. I'll come with if my girlfriend wants to see it but nothing about it looks enjoyable to me and I don't like rich people. I hope it does well just to get more Asian representation though.
That's like complaining about any movie based on the Hero's Journey is too "universal." Like, what?
Did anyone else here read the book?
My friend recommended it to me so I read it and thought it was enjoyable. I don't really like all the glamorization of wealth and was hoping the book would be more critical of the wealth inequality, but Hollywood always has that problem and hollywood loves making movies about over the top weddings so this seems like it could do well. However for me reading the book almost always means there is no reason to watch the movie so I won't be seeing this.
My friend recommended it to me so I read it and thought it was enjoyable. I don't really like all the glamorization of wealth and was hoping the book would be more critical of the wealth inequality, but Hollywood always has that problem and hollywood loves making movies about over the top weddings so this seems like it could do well. However for me reading the book almost always means there is no reason to watch the movie so I won't be seeing this.
It's almost as if Asians can go through the same experiences as anyone else and these problems aren't unique to a single culture! Okay?
I've seen it in front of almost every movie I've seen for over a year. I feel like I have to see it at this point.
The whole idea of Crazy Rich Asians is...whatever. On the surface it seems comfortable with retreading old stereotypes and archetypes, complete with the re-steeping in the often unspoken-yet-always-kinda-there obsession with success communicated through money. Yet, if that's what it takes for Asian film representation to advance in the US, then so be it.
Also, I have never heard of Columbus and REALLY want to watch it now. That looks fucking great.
Also, I have never heard of Columbus and REALLY want to watch it now. That looks fucking great.
I read all three books in the series. I had a different takeaway in that I felt there was this underlying angst that the author had in the first book, where he just needed to get his gripes with that culture out--it isn't a coincidence that the happiest people in those books are the ones least connected to that culture: Nick and Rachel when they live in New York away from all of it, Philip who self-exiles to Australia, etc. Whereas the second book kinda drops all of that and leans heavily into "man isn't being rich wonderful?"
I've seen literally 50 movies in theater this year and I've never seen a trailer for Alpha. Weird.
Sure Does!
Damned universally appealing stories with yellow faces peppered into them! If only white people didn't like them then it would be okay!
Yea I wouldn't say it looks fantastic lmao. With that being said, I enjoy romcoms, and this movie looks fun.
It really depends on the persons critcisms tbh. If your talking about Yams he might think it looks mediocre for more reasons than just "sticks to the formula".
