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Official Cricket Thread
- Thread starter crazy monkey
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I have no frame of reference, I was just listening to TMS! The only context I really had is that they were wondering if he might get pulled up for it.
He was strongly making his point after the umpire signalled for a review that England didn't actually have. Any actual outburst happened when he was back up in the terraces which is usually fine. The punishment was right I guess, I personally wouldn't have even done that from what I saw but it's cricket and any moaning will get you fined.
Edit: If he did get banned for the final that would have been me me done with cricket after 20+ years. I understand the whole 'gentlemen's game' thing about cricket (which I think is overdone and holds back the game from being more entertaining but that's a discussion for another time) but I've seen more moaning at a chess championship than what Roy did.
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I heard something about dharmasena was about to give a wide then put his finger up, not sure about that though.
Tbh its Roy's fault for not having the balls to tell bairstow he was plum and not to use a review.
Tbh its Roy's fault for not having the balls to tell bairstow he was plum and not to use a review.
And how exactly does what I said make me salty?
I acknowledge that england were the better team today, absolutely destroyed australia to bits, fair and square. Im not angry or bitter at anything.
This is besides the fact.
You sure? Because crying about pitches sure makes you sound angry and bitter
Not to mention our weather which actually hasn't been that bad so far this summer!
Despite how highly vaunted our bowling line up was, it was still mostly reliant on Starc firing. And when he didn't, as in the last two games and the group game against India, it was largely exposed. Cummins was mediocre throughout, Coulter-Nile was dropped, Berendorf had one good game, and Zampa flopped.
We weren't quite as reliant on our top order as India, but both Maxwell and Stoinis had rotten tournaments with the bat, and put a lot of pressure on Carey.
Ultimately we did pretty well given how awful we've been in ODIs for the last few years. Six months ago I had no expectation of reaching the semis.
I'm not sure anyone but Cummins and Carey will be in India in four years, the next time we'll put any effort into ODIs (especially now that they're off free to air tv).
Apart from Khawaja's injury I don't think this will have any effect on Ashes preparations (we'll get flogged regardless). That Australia v Australia A tour game will be far more significant (and an unironically awesome throwback to the 90s - hope it's streamed).
We weren't quite as reliant on our top order as India, but both Maxwell and Stoinis had rotten tournaments with the bat, and put a lot of pressure on Carey.
Ultimately we did pretty well given how awful we've been in ODIs for the last few years. Six months ago I had no expectation of reaching the semis.
I'm not sure anyone but Cummins and Carey will be in India in four years, the next time we'll put any effort into ODIs (especially now that they're off free to air tv).
Apart from Khawaja's injury I don't think this will have any effect on Ashes preparations (we'll get flogged regardless). That Australia v Australia A tour game will be far more significant (and an unironically awesome throwback to the 90s - hope it's streamed).
Me criticizing something = Im crying, angry, and bitter.
Whatever you say boss.
Edit: imagine framing people as "salty" when they hold a differing opinion to you. Im not even talking about today's game, just the WC in general. Well, what more can I expect from era members.
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Do I dare say that maybe Mitch Marsh should be in the team instead of Stoinis?
Nah that was definitely an outburst. Only very rarely seen a batsmen argue with the umpire so aggressively. The second ump had to step in to calm him down. Don't think he'll be banned for the next game though. Will probably be a few more demerit points so the next time he does it he will be out.
I think this world cup has produced some fantastic games so I won't say it shouldn't be held in England but I do think several things could have been done better. For one, having reserve days for rained out games even in the play offs would help. Second - and I'm not sure if it was the pitches or something else but they need to make the coin toss less important and the game more fair. 2/3 of the teams chasing have lost this WC which is unusually off balance considering it's typically 50/50. Cricket's never given a crap about being fair though seeing how much test outcomes matter on the toss too so it's unlikely to change.
Yeah as far as cricket go Roy's action were definitely an outburst. I'm sure if this was a standard one day series he would have gotten a 1 match ban, I think the only reason he escaped it was because the next game is the world cup final.
But the reason chasing has been so hard is because the pitches have slowed up during the day. This is absolutely not normal behaviour for English wickets - so whatever the ICC have done with the pitches has been diabolical. I think they wanted softish pitches to try and help the Indians out. Instead of preparing usual English wickets which offer early movement off the seam but then become more playable.
Actually english pitches have been - by design - flat as fuck for the last couple of years. It was a conscious decision to aid ODI skill development. The weather (and perhaps ICC?) has done us a really good service by making the pitches more competitive. The idea that the pitches have been bad for this tournament is a very weird take. We've had a lot of tight, low scoring games, but very few where teams have been skittled. It could have been so very different and if it had, it would have been way more beneficial for England.
The pitches have generally been awful because they've favoured the team batting first so heavily it has spoiled games. What you want is proper English pitches where there is an even chance batting first or chasing. Where overhead conditions come into play but where the pitch itself is even over the 100 overs.
The idea that you want pitches that become horrible slow turners 35 overs in is utterly absurd. Or are two paced and become progressively more so as the game progresses. That is nonsense.
Using pitches to make up for the inadequacies of some teams is absolutely not a good way to run the tournament. And has spoiled the spectacle on many occassions.
People are forgetting the really important thing here: Live cricket on free-to-air telly again!
(It's one hell of a clash of sport with both this and the British GP, it's a good job Andy Murray's not in the Wimbledon final as well)
(It's one hell of a clash of sport with both this and the British GP, it's a good job Andy Murray's not in the Wimbledon final as well)
I think I've got to push back slightly against this hipster notion of "Isn't cricket better when batmen have to work for their runs and it's an even contest". My answer to that is - Is it fuck!. I do like a mix of low scoring and high scoring games but this idea that the purist can only find entertainment in the batsmen scratching around for singles for 40 overs before getting out trying to bash sixes at the end is bollocks. There is nothing *repeat* NOTHING like the entertainment value of one team scoring 400 and the other team chasing it down. It's fucking fantastic. Yeah yeah not EVERY game but we've not had ANY fucking games like that (though yesterday possibly should have been one) and that's to the detriment of the competition.
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Anyone can win a low scoring mistake-fest. Takes a special team to chase 350 plus whatever the conditions.
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Anyone can win a low scoring mistake-fest. Takes a special team to chase 350 plus whatever the conditions.
As somebody into most sports, Sunday is going to be mental.
F1, Cricket, Wimbledon and Tour de France all on at the same time pretty much. How many screens do I have...
And I'm on a weekend away with loads of other families very few of whom are interested in cricket.
CUNTS!
Exactly. You don't want every game to be a slog fest, but equally you don't want every game to be grinding out 50 overs low scoring games.
20:20 is so popular now. People want to see big hitting - and ideally for ODI you want a contest where if the batsmen win they can start to score rapidly. It makes for exciting cricket.
The major problem with the pitches this WC has been that it can be random who wins. Yesterday on a fresh and decent pitch it was clear that a chase was far easier than say the OT semi final pitch where chasing scores as the pitch got sticky and slow was an absolute chore.
Crazy how there is a lack of understanding - pitches that become harder and harder to bat on for a one day game are terrible terrible pitches. If the WC is in Bangladesh then you expect slow turners with not much pace. Absolutely you play the conditions of the country. But this hasn't been the case here - its basically been pitches where the ball comes onto the bat well for 20 or so overs then progressively get slower and harder to score on.
Supposedly Dharmasena also mistakenly performed the third umpire gesture? I thought maybe that helped.
That might have felt but apparently the stump mic picked up roy saying dharmasena's decision was a fucking embarrassment. If the next game wasn't the world cup final I'm sure he would get a ban.
The decision was baffling though, dharmasena clearly looks unsure when he raises his finger like he cant quite believe hes given it out lol
I mean I've never seen an umpire look so unsure sticking his finger up. At least give the decision with conviction.
Yeah that looked terrible. He was bullied into giving it out.
Setting aside this brain fart, he's not that bad overall I feel.
At least Bucknor is still not at it.
I thought I read something somewhere that he had the most drs overturns of top umpires, though I can't find any articles relating to that so maybe it was a fake memory lol
Found this old tread.
Damn, you are right. Not a great track record.
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England is going in favorite but than gaian look what happened to India against New Zealand.
I am happy with either winning. NZ more so just because they are underdogs. England win will help cricket more.
I am happy with either winning. NZ more so just because they are underdogs. England win will help cricket more.
He's the guy who gave Moeen out 3 times in the space of a couple of overs and all three were overturned... he's not good.
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