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Crystal Dynamics seems to deflect their Avengers' designs criticisms as fans' diversed opinions formed from Marvel's history, I disagree
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Nah, it's fine. In a game selling based entirely on "You know these characters and love them", why would anybody bother listening to the overwhelming feedback of "Those characters look terrible and I hate them"?
I didn't love the designs when I first saw them but I cannot (cannot!) stand when we have one of these threads that rips into developers in the classic lazy developers" criticism. Sure the OP has a lot of words but it still boils down to claims of straight forward fixes.
I do not envy Crystal Dynamics here. I imagine they had to stick to a vaguely realistic look to attract fans of the films. They can't go full comic design because a lot of those designs are stupid. Look at that Scarlet Witch costume. In what fictional universe could you justify that to someone not familiar with the comics. There's plenty of other examples as well. Wolverine's comes to mind. It's iconic to those who grew up with eh comics/ animated series but makes no sense to anyone else.
Of course, I could be completely wrong with all this, I'm making massive assumptions but that's the problem with these threads, they involve hundreds of people making numerous assumptions about the motives of developers. Based on no evidence other than conjecture and reference to other people's conjecture.
One thing I feel pretty confident in is that the Devs are doing their best and if they aren't designing something a certain way, there is probably a good reason for that.
I wouldn't even have felt the need to say anything if this thread didn't have the tedious undertone of "why don't the devs just implement this easy fix!". We can do better than this.
I do not envy Crystal Dynamics here. I imagine they had to stick to a vaguely realistic look to attract fans of the films. They can't go full comic design because a lot of those designs are stupid. Look at that Scarlet Witch costume. In what fictional universe could you justify that to someone not familiar with the comics. There's plenty of other examples as well. Wolverine's comes to mind. It's iconic to those who grew up with eh comics/ animated series but makes no sense to anyone else.
Of course, I could be completely wrong with all this, I'm making massive assumptions but that's the problem with these threads, they involve hundreds of people making numerous assumptions about the motives of developers. Based on no evidence other than conjecture and reference to other people's conjecture.
One thing I feel pretty confident in is that the Devs are doing their best and if they aren't designing something a certain way, there is probably a good reason for that.
I wouldn't even have felt the need to say anything if this thread didn't have the tedious undertone of "why don't the devs just implement this easy fix!". We can do better than this.
Yeah, I reaaaally hated that riot gear Cap. Glad that new Secret Empire outfit got rid of the "clunk".
I disagree I think it has everything to do with MCU. They tried to go too close to the MCU without being exactly like them and the results are bad cosplay.
The Thor change shows that actually trying for something a little more original works wonders.
Im excited for this game now.
The Thor change shows that actually trying for something a little more original works wonders.
Im excited for this game now.
Yeah, I thought this type of game would be my dream game with co-op. But the designs are too off putting, I can't enjoy whatever Cap and Tony these are.
Comic book fans are used to design changes. Hell, the art is different between artists when multiple issues release each month. Action Comics current artist is different from Superman and different from Justice League and different from Batman and Superman.
We can handle changes. That's the literal definition of comics. It's a story ABOUT change.
And yeah, they improved the art after being criticized and trying to blame us for calling them out is petty.
We can handle changes. That's the literal definition of comics. It's a story ABOUT change.
And yeah, they improved the art after being criticized and trying to blame us for calling them out is petty.
I don't envy anyone in PR who has to deflect the criticism. They often aren't the ones calling the shots, and they can't predict the future of even what changes could be possible if there is criticism. Their job is to hype up the game, deflect the criticism, and hope for the best.
Clearly, they have been making changes based on feedback and initial pushback.
That doesn't mean the statements given aren't, yeah, pretty bogus. We have a long history of faces changing from art style to art style in comics, TV shows, cartoons, and even movie recastings. Peter doesn't look like Tobey, Andrew, or Tom in Spider-man PS4, but that's okay.
I think there's a very good reason the game got delayed and it's because it just needed more work. Whatever facial capture they used just didn't "click" with people, and it's something I've seen that's common with popular character. Mortal Kombat and Injustice went through the exact same complaints to a smaller degree.
How is Tony Stark looking now? And the Helmet faceplate? It looked a bit small before.
Captain America was trash, Thor looks good now.
Their excuses are laughable. They were just bad character models + strange art choices. Hope they keep improving them.
Captain America was trash, Thor looks good now.
Their excuses are laughable. They were just bad character models + strange art choices. Hope they keep improving them.
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Well, I think it looks plain bad. I thought Deus ex looked way better, no? Was the game shown too early?
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These changes are mostly similar, in the sense that the designs in the initial reveals are just purely bad in general and beyond "you can't please everyone".I don't envy anyone in PR who has to deflect the criticism. They often aren't the ones calling the shots, and they can't predict the future of even what changes could be possible if there is criticism. Their job is to hype up the game, deflect the criticism, and hope for the best.
Clearly, they have been making changes based on feedback and initial pushback.
That doesn't mean the statements given aren't, yeah, pretty bogus. We have a long history of faces changing from art style to art style in comics, TV shows, cartoons, and even movie recastings. Peter doesn't look like Tobey, Andrew, or Tom in Spider-man PS4, but that's okay.
I think there's a very good reason the game got delayed and it's because it just needed more work. Whatever facial capture they used just didn't "click" with people, and it's something I've seen that's common with popular character. Mortal Kombat and Injustice went through the exact same complaints to a smaller degree.