Just in case you needed any more evidence that The Avengers was a service game.
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Crystal Dynamics (The Avengers) hiring Data Scientist for player acquisition, retention, & ecommerce
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So mtx (cosmetic or not) out the wazoo.
This sorta news is kinda off putting, makes the new game feel like a money pit and second job already ZZzzzz
This sorta news is kinda off putting, makes the new game feel like a money pit and second job already ZZzzzz
I thought it's already confirmed that it's a GaaS.
People expecting this to be a story-driven single player game are kidding themselves.
People expecting this to be a story-driven single player game are kidding themselves.
Yeah
"Acquisition, retention and e-commerce"
We want to get players, we want to keep them playing, and we want to keep them paying
Pass
Who cares at this point, it's just gonna be a Skinner box with a Marvel skin. They're more worried about how to "acquire" and "retain" our wallets than about making an actual game.
Yes, I'm sure the whole studio is working on the hard selection process for the new worker.
The programmers and the artists are doing interviews right now.
I... really can't see how this kind of game will be good. Correct me if I'm wrong but all of Eidos Montreal's games have been story focused single player games with a bit of multiplayer sprinkled here and there.
This kind of role does kind of scream Destiny style blend of solo/co-op gameplay, but not really sure how this can fit with Marvel...
Of course, we'll have to wait and see some gamepla/concepts before commenting on anything.
This kind of role does kind of scream Destiny style blend of solo/co-op gameplay, but not really sure how this can fit with Marvel...
Of course, we'll have to wait and see some gamepla/concepts before commenting on anything.
This game could absolutely be a single-player story driven game. It won't be, but you could get GaaS out of that. See Assassin's Creed.
In any case, something like this just needs to offer a billion costumes for you to buy and already you've got MTX for days.
My field of work, it's good fun but doing it for a bank is somewhat duller I suppose. Do wonder what it would be like to do those kinds of things in such an environment.
Can't wait!
CD, please take notes from Ubisoft! Learn how to properly support your GaaS game.
They can still make official skins based on comics and other stuff. Marvel Heroes game had tons of skins.
CD, please take notes from Ubisoft! Learn how to properly support your GaaS game.
They can still make official skins based on comics and other stuff. Marvel Heroes game had tons of skins.
oh that actually happened? thought we're still in "worst kept secret" phase lol
Mobile gaming's design is going to keep spilling over into console gaming. This industry's not heading in a good direction for consumers.
No way... I would've never guessed that a Marvel, MCU-esque, the hottest-shit-in-the-whole-mainstream-as-of-right-now, license..
Would get an exploitative, brand-milking, soulless video game adaptation...
...and everybody will love it and make a case for its annoying continued existence.
Would get an exploitative, brand-milking, soulless video game adaptation...
...and everybody will love it and make a case for its annoying continued existence.
Oh my god! They want to make a game that gets people to want to play and keep playing?
Those monsters! How dare they?
You missed the key bit out, they want to make a game people keep PAYING to play
That's fine, it's juts not something I'm interested in, therefore, I'll pass on it
They have 0 interest in making a game people can play forever if they can't extract continuous funds from them, the entire point of this type of game is to exact over $60 from the average player
I'd rather play a game with a defined end, a defined price, and then try something new, as opposed to running on the same grindy treadmill for 500 hours while the game begs me for money every 5 mins
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A business wants to make money? How dare they!
All kidding aside, why do we expect continuing support for a game to be free? Why do we expect developers to work for free and publishers to not make a profit out of the goodness of their hearts?
Money is exchanged for goods and services. It's a fundamental principle of economics.
Goods must be sold for one amount of money and support for that good must be ongoing and free is not a fundamental principle of anything.
If you truly just want games that end and sell for a fixed amount then that's fine.
On the other hand, there is a large market that does want continuing support and to expect it for free is nuts.
That's pretty much the sole point to these destiny-like games. They're nothing but mobile tier scams designed to suck all your time and money away.
How best to prey on customers, so they keep forking money over within the game.
I don't see any problems or surprise with that. That game must represent a huge investment, of course they want to know their gamers and ensure they don't lose them. Ubisoft is very good at it, and it's working great for them.
That's what you got from it? Wow.
There are many good monetization systems for GaaS. Maybe they're looking into those.
Gee sounds like a soulful, fun-first game for sure.
Not.
Eidos' fate under Square Enix is almost as sad as Rare's.
Not.
Eidos' fate under Square Enix is almost as sad as Rare's.
How is this job description interpreted any other way? Its basically collecting and analysing all the player data to find efficient monetisation schemes. When, where, which items or loot, price, etc etc. They will be fine tuning this game into a money printing machine.
I would like to hear more about the actual game than hear about all the ways they can retain their players.
That's not necessarily a bad thing and of course they're making the game to be profitable. There are many ways to make a good non-predatory monetization system.
What?
The whole point of GaaS is that the games last a long time, you dont really get "GOTY" editions with all the DLC included a year later because its still being developed, at most a bundle with some of the DLC.
Me too!
Anthem (my most anticipated game of 2019) and Division 2 only have me more excited about this game TBH
Diablo confirmed for scam.
Deus Ex is going to be this if it ever comes back btw
Note to data scientists: I'm a special breed that can only be acquired and retained by fun, quality games without blatant GaaS bullshit. I have lots of money but you'll not see a dime of it by going GaaS.
that's a shame
i liked that marvel ludic universe rumour from a couple of months ago a lot more tbqh
i liked that marvel ludic universe rumour from a couple of months ago a lot more tbqh
It is a bad thing when the player data that is used to fuel the economics of the game isn't paid for.
Its basically playing maxwells demon with player data. Trying to find efficient ways to monetise by observing how a player behaves. Finding the addicts and locking them in. I really don't see anything good in these kind of games.
Unfortunately, the money that people that are fine with "GaaS bullshit" probably vastly outweigh the amount of money that you have :(
I feel second hand embarrassment for statistics and economics people who go into ad targeting or stuff like this.
Like, this is literally the best you could do with your skills and life? Geez, how bad are you at life?
Like, this is literally the best you could do with your skills and life? Geez, how bad are you at life?
You can have data scientists and... not do that.
It could be something as simple as seeing what kind of DLC players like the most and buy the most and making more of it, it doesnt have to be some predatory EA tier BS.
Id rather hear how they are doing it before dismissing the game entirely.
