1. ggx2ac

    ggx2ac
    Member OP

    I saw this getting asked a lot in the thread about online not being free anymore in a month.

    If you go to the eShop, and look at an online game like Minecraft, it will have something like this in the fine print:

    "To use online services you must have access to a wireless internet connection. Some online services may not be available in all countries. From the full launch of the Nintendo Switch Online membership service in 2018, online play requires a paid membership."

    Lots of retail games with online play have that fine print.
    However, if you look at the following free to play games:

    Paladins
    Fortnite
    Pokémon Quest
    Dawn of the Breakers
    Fallout Shelter
    Galak-Z: Variant S
    Zaccaria Pinball
    The Pinball Arcade
    Kitten Squad
    Pinball FX3

    None of them have that fine print.
     
  2. djinnEXE

    djinnEXE
    Member

    That's good right
     
  3. PK_Wonder

    PK_Wonder
    Member

    Strange, seems like a missed money opportunity since I'm sure the amount of people who only play Fortnite when it comes to online is non-negligible.
     
  4. skittzo0413

    skittzo0413
    Member

    Interesting find. I hope they do come out and confirm this soon.

    Yes haha
     
  5. Saint-14

    Saint-14
    Member

    That’s good if it turns out true.
     
  6. patapon

    patapon
    Member

    Good job Nintendo. F2P games should be 'Free to play', not locked behind a paywall.
     
  7. tolkir

    tolkir
    Member

    So, it's free to play.
     
  8. GreedyG

    GreedyG
    Member

    My opinion on this might be unpopular, but I've always found the distinction arbitrary.

    Online play on for a free title has the same cost/impact on the platform holder as a full price paid title (if not more so because more people are willing to try). Obviously I'd prefer it if the platform holders absorbed the cost of online and made it free across the board, which is unlikely, but I've always found the stance from Sony (& now Nintendo) odd.
     
  9. KoolAid

    KoolAid
    Member

    As it should.
     
  10. StereoVSN

    StereoVSN
    Member

    Smart move by Nintendo. That got Sony a lot of mileage as well.
     
  11. Dyle

    Dyle
    Member

    Good, as with everything else with this service it should have been more clearly communicated from the get go
     
  12. Phantom Thief

    Phantom Thief
    Member

    So Microsoft is the odd one out on this.
     
  13. Mandos

    Mandos
    Member

    Makes sense most of them rely on their own internal servers anyways
     
  14. Fonst

    Fonst
    Member

    Is Galak online or just F2P/you need an online connection to proceed?
     
  15. ShinobiBk

    ShinobiBk
    Member

    Kitten Squad had online play?
    Damn Peta
     
  16. bsigg

    bsigg
    Member

    I would hold out until the service launches to see if anything changes. Hopefully F2P are truly F2P on the Switch unlike Xbox.
     
  17. julian

    julian
    Member

    That’s upsetting. Not because I want them to charge for free to play games, but because I’d hoped they limited the subscription to Nintendo made online games.
     
  18. Cinder Fall

    Cinder Fall
    Member

    That's good, it's annoying that only Xbox is the one doing this right now.
     
  19. Medalion

    Medalion
    Member

    It makes a certain amount of sense, despite someone argued to contrary when I said this...

    Nintendo Online is for the services Nintendo themselves are forking over for servers and storage space and content... obviously third party games that do their own servers, unless aligned through Nintendo's deal, is not a requirement because it bypasses Nintendo's network.
     
  20. Slam Tilt

    Slam Tilt
    Member

    I’m sure someone will spin it as a negative.
     
  21. NLCPRESIDENT

    NLCPRESIDENT
    Member

    Yea, but usually a bigger return on those F2P titles. And free is free, and if MS is the only one doing so, they will have the lowest users for those titles. They still will make it up from xbl, so it’s probably a win across the board.
     
  22. julian

    julian
    Member

    But then why is the text on Minecraft? They don’t host Minecraft servers.
     
  23. skittzo0413

    skittzo0413
    Member

    If you're an investor it's not necessarily the best news. Some investor may point out that this doesn't let them leverage Fortnite's popularity to earn more subscription revneue.

    But for consumers it's undeniably good news, yes.
     
  24. Lelouch0612

    Lelouch0612
    Member

    It is Microsoft game, it costs money to play online on a MS platform, they won't make it free on the Switch.
     
  25. JammerLammy

    JammerLammy
    Banned Member

    They get that money back from MTX, all those f2p games are full of them
     
  26. julian

    julian
    Member

    The OP is saying this text is on all similar online games that aren’t f2p though. Curious how this fee breaks out for third parties.
     
  27. ghostcrew

    ghostcrew
    Spooky Moderator

    To be fair, no game at all so far requires Nintendo Switch Online sub.
     
  28. Jon Carter

    Jon Carter
    Member

    That's good for me because I don't intend on playing online games other than Fortnite and Paladins in the foreseeable future.

    And they shouldn't give Sony any ammo regarding the Fortnite kerfuffle.
     
  29. skittzo0413

    skittzo0413
    Member

    Yup, definitely. But I'm just giving an example of how someone (an investor) can spin it as a negative.
     
  30. As it should be!
     
  31. Dreamwriter

    Dreamwriter
    Member

    This could very well change, they may just not have put the fine print in all the games yet. But it doesn’t really make sense to me - I mean sure, at a surface level, you expect a free game to be, free. But, Fortnite has earned literally $1 billion. A billion! The game may be free, but people are spending money on it.
     
  32. Porsche

    Porsche
    Member

    Is Minecraft free on the PS4?
     
  33. Sander VF

    Sander VF
    Member

    Then it would be in Nintendo’s interest to offer superior online features for the subscribers, as that could entice even those who mostly play f2p games.

    But I wouldn’t hold my breath.
     
  34. Lelouch0612

    Lelouch0612
    Member

    Nope since it is not F2P.
     
  35. rochellepaws

    rochellepaws
    Member

    Good to see but a very bad look for Microsoft to be left alone on charging for free to play.
     
  36. Bazry

    Bazry
    Member

    This seems like it may dent Nintendo and MS's whole cross play campaign against Sony if one has to pay for Fortnite and the other doesn't
     
  37. This makes sense, free to play games make money from in game purchases... which require an internet connection. There's no upfront payment unlike other games so this seems like a logical compromise, to me anyway.
     
  38. Ehoavash

    Ehoavash
    Member

    Good. Fuck Microsoft for the bullshit
     
  39. justiceiro

    justiceiro
    Member

    Lets hope it keeps that way.
     
  40. Porsche

    Porsche
    Member

    Lol, I thought this game was free to play this whole time.
     
  41. You have to buy Minecraft on any platform to play it
     
  42. Ebtesam

    Ebtesam
    Member

    Good , need we MS to get rid from charge for F2P games
     
  43. shoryukens

    shoryukens
    Member

    Any word on Warframe?
     
  44. AlexxKidd

    AlexxKidd
    Banned Member

    As it should be.
     
  45. Pancracio17

    Pancracio17
    Member

    Good.
     
  46. Bjomesphat

    Bjomesphat
    Member

    It's silly that if I'm paying for a game I also have to pay extra to use all of it's features, but millions of gamers are ok with this. So it doesn't really make sense to me that some of you are not ok with requiring a subscription for a F2P game. Obviously gamers have justified it to themselves that companies need to charge for online, so it should be irrelevant if it's a paid game or F2P. It's still the same service.

    I just wish console gamers had these same convictions when they overwhelming forked out cash for a service that never needed a subscription model in the first place. Unfortunately we can't go back now.
     
  47. Decarb

    Decarb
    Member

    No more crossplay with paid platforms.
     
  48. Boiled Goose

    Boiled Goose
    Banned Member

    Unless Nintendo offers some Switch level functionality to aid online play and they use their own servers then they should be free I guess.
     
  49. Vire

    Vire
    Member

    Now we are applauding them? I'm still annoyed about Switch Online. 20$ isn't a big deal, but nonetheless I was able to play Mario Kart and Splatoon 2 for free for over a year and now for no reason at all for the end consumer, we have to fork over cash to play the same exact thing they were previously getting with no added benefit.
     
  50. Forkball

    Forkball
    Member

    They made another Galak Z game? And it’s on the Switch?