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L Thammy

Spacenoid
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Oct 25, 2017
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Being dishonest and full of lies isn't even the only bad thing about their communication.
 

fracas

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,634
i don't even care about the shitty game at this point just apologize for the bigoted shit
 

Septimus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Holy shit, that roadmap makes it look like the PS5/SX update isn't coming til the end of the year. Jesus.
 
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bsigg

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Oct 25, 2017
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FAQ from the link above:

I have no idea wtf is going on with the quote button.


FAQ

Q: Why is there such a gap between PC versions of Cyberpunk 2077 and old-gen consoles?
A: Cyberpunk 2077 is huge in scope, it features a multitude of custom objects, interacting systems and mechanics. In the game, everything is not stretched out over flat terrain where we can make things less taxing hardware-wise, but condensed in one big city and in a relatively loading-free environment. We made it even more difficult for ourselves by first wanting to make the game look epic on PCs and then adjusting it to consoles — especially old-gens. That was our core assumption. And things did not look super difficult at first, while we knew the hardware gap, ultimately, time has proven that we've underestimated the task.



Q: What was the main issue that made development for consoles that difficult?
A: The main culprit was having to constantly improve our in-game streaming system for old-gen consoles. Streaming is responsible for "feeding" the engine with what you see on screen, as well as the game mechanics. Since the city is so packed and the disk bandwidth of old-gen consoles is what it is, this is something that constantly challenged us.



Q: Didn't you test old-gen consoles to keep tabs on the experience?
A: We did. As it turned out, our testing did not show many of the issues you experienced while playing the game. As we got closer to launch, we saw significant improvements each and every day, and we really believed we'd deliver in the final day zero update.



Q: Why was there a gap between PC and console reviews?
A: We started sending out PC review keys to start the review process in the first week of December. Come December 10th, launch day, we had a really good start with PC reviews, and while it's not perfect, this is a version of the game we were, and still are, very proud of. When it comes to the review process for consoles, at the same time PC codes were sent out we were still working hard to improve the quality of the game on old-gen consoles. Every extra day that we worked on the day zero update brought visible improvement — that's why we started sending console codes for reviews on the 8th December, which was later than we had planned.



Q: What have you done since launch to make the game better?
A: Our top priority since launch has been to fix bugs in Cyberpunk 2077. We have already released three hotfixes which have improved the game, but these are just the beginning.



Q: What are you going to do going forward to fix Cyberpunk 2077?
A: We are focused on fixing the bugs and crashes players are experiencing across every platform. You can expect more in the way of patches — both small and large — to be released regularly. The first update will drop in the next 10 days, and it will be followed by a larger, more significant update, in the weeks after. Our plans for supporting Cyberpunk 2077 in the long-term are unchanged, and we will continue to introduce updates and patches to give all players across all consoles and PCs a better experience with the game.



Q: You have said there would be free DLC for the game in 'early 2021', will this be impacted by improvements?
A: We're still planning on releasing free DLC for the game, just like with The Witcher 3. However, we have decided that our priority is working on the most important fixes and updates. We will be releasing free DLC afterwards — we'll have more to say about that in the coming months.



Q: When can we expect the next-gen update for Cyberpunk 2077?
A: For those who are playing the game on next-gen consoles via backwards compatibility, we are planning the free, next-gen update for Cyberpunk 2077 on Xbox Series consoles, and PlayStation 5, this year. We're aiming for the second half of the year and we'll reveal more when we have more to share.



Q: Are you making the team crunch to work on the patches?
A: The team is working to bring relevant fixes to the game without any obligatory overtime. Avoiding crunch on all of our future projects is one of our top priorities.



Q: When is the game coming back to PlayStation Store?
A: We are working on fixes and updates, and are working with Sony to bring Cyberpunk 2077 back to PlayStation Store as soon as possible.



Q: What is the status of the Help Me Refund initiative?
A: The initiative is progressing according to plan and we just sent out the first wave of reimbursements.
 
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Papercuts

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017
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It pisses me off so much how they keep trying to use the console versions as a scapegoat, as if the game isn't an incredibly buggy mess on PC full of blatantly cut content. Just own up to the entire thing being launched way too goddamn early.
 

KartuneDX

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Jan 12, 2018
2,381
Immensely disappointed in the delayed next-gen update, think I'll finally take advantage of the PS Store refund
 

L Thammy

Spacenoid
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Oct 25, 2017
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"I, and the entire leadership team, are deeply sorry for this and this video is me publicly owning up to that" is one of those lines that make me feel like I'm reading an eighth grade book report.
 

Surakian

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
10,807
lol how can anybody trust them to be open and honest when they lied for years, not to just their consumers but also their own shareholders like wtf.

Also fuck them and their transphobia.
 

Wein Cruz

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Oct 27, 2017
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Am I supposed to care about their perspective when I seriously doubt the studio employees can honestly give us real insight instead of a carefully articulated message
 

Genesius

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Nov 2, 2018
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Oof, fall for the next gen release

That's the one I've been waiting on, but sheez oh man
 

TheGummyBear

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Jan 6, 2018
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United Kingdom
Almost sounds like the game wasn't ready to ship in its current state, and is spending the next year getting fixed.

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admiraltaftbar

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Dec 9, 2017
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That "timeline" is absolutely useless lol. It's pure style over substance and really could mean DLC/next gen updates come out anytime this year.
 

Maple

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Oct 27, 2017
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I just want an explicit commitment from them to fix the AI. It is so fucking bad and it definitely ruins the game.

Cops don't chase you. Cars don't drive around obstacles in the road. You shoot your gun and people 2 blocks away crouch with their hands over their head and don't move. Nothing is natural. I swear it's like all enemy logic was programmed by a couple computer science freshman. It's inexcusably bad.

In GTA you can just spend dozens of hours watching the dynamic AI in the city take place, and tinker with it and watch things unfold. This is non-existent in Cyberpunk, and in my opinion, it is by far the most important thing that needs to be fixed/overhauled after bugs/crashing/performance are addressed.
 

Stacey

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Feb 8, 2020
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DLC before the next gen patch? a big giant kick in the teeth to ps5 and sx owners,
 

FusedAtoms

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Jul 21, 2018
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Damnnnn that next gen update is coming late this year huh? glad I got it on PC. Hopefully its substantial I might re buy for some solid dualsense support
 

LightKiosk

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah, I'm just gonna refund it on the PS Store if the next gen update is nearly a year after the original release.
 

3bada

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
473
lol @ the people who held onto their copies instead of refunding because they thought next gen copy is coming soon
 

CloseTalker

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Oct 25, 2017
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So according to this very obtuse timeline, next gen update isn't a thing until around the fall? That sucks
 

Guymelef

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Oct 25, 2017
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Spain
It pisses me off so much how they keep trying to use the console versions as a scapegoat, as if the game isn't an incredibly buggy mess on PC full of blatantly cut content. Just own up to the entire thing being launched way too goddamn early.

This x100.

They are trying to make this as if it's only a problem of the game being on underpowered consoles.
 

Moff

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Oct 26, 2017
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that roadmap is absolutely ridiculous after the amount of bad press the game got
 

ze_

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Oct 28, 2017
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Dear gamers,
I meant to write you sooner, but I just been busy

edit:
"We made it even more difficult for ourselves by first wanting to make the game look epic on PCs and then adjusting it to consoles — especially old-gens. That was our core assumption."
lmao
 

Sotonian

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Oct 25, 2017
1,390
Wow late 2021 for the next gen update? really glad i got a refund now. Fucking joke of a company
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah... not really believing the fluff he said regards prior the launch.
I can also see them crunching all through 2021 and the next gen patch being delayed to 2022.

And a fucking Roadmap? Parody is truly dead
 

JMY86

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Oct 27, 2017
7,057
United States
I always planned to play CP2077 on PC but if not I would be pissed at that updated roadmap. The next gen update in Fall 2021? Oof...
 

Arubedo

Unshakable Resolve
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Dec 24, 2018
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Morocco
Q: Are you making the team crunch to work on the patches?
A: The team is working to bring relevant fixes to the game without any obligatory overtime. Avoiding crunch on all of our future projects is one of our top priorities.

It's basically "Yes we'll continue to crunch but we'll try not for the next projects"...
 

dgamemaster

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Jun 29, 2020
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Reminder- CD Projekt Red is a transphobic company, and the statement (as far as I'm aware) does nothing to fix that major problem. Don't let personal attachment/anticipation to CD Projekt Red or Cyberpunk 2077 let you forget that.

With that out of the way, next gen patch in fall is very yikes, and it seems that the problems with the game aren't going away anytime soon. Watch this, they announced Witcher 4 in the summer to get everyone on their side again.