while at the same time incurring new costs and design considerations
that ain't it
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Cyberpunk 2077 dev: “I would say that the game is pretty different to what we showed last year”
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that ain't it
I am sorry for you if you have watched, played and read so little to be impressed by that to the point of being a new bar
Raise the bar with a gameplay stuck at two generations ago?
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Hahaha uh... ok champ. If you don't think RDR2 raised the bar for open world games in any way at all then I'm just gonna assume you're a troll.
RDR2's open world is a new bar in the genere.
As game as a whole is very good but not revolutionary, especially with those outdated gameplay mechanics.
As game as a whole is very good but not revolutionary, especially with those outdated gameplay mechanics.
Look around this topic.
We are all trolls because we don't agree with you. Technically it is a new bar for open world. A that is it.
Gameplay surely not, freedom surely not, narrative surely not etc. I am sorry if you where so impressed by the graphics to forget everything else
Two katanas, one for humans, the other for monsters.
They're both for monsters.
Who's we? I'm replying to you. A new bar for open world games, yes, that's exactly what I said. So we agree?
I made no comment about gameplay and I can absolutely see why many didn't enjoy that aspect of it, that's fine. I enjoyed the slower pace and simulation aspects of it. And graphics? Where did this come from? Why are you assuming I'm only impressed by the graphics? The fuck lol.
Even CD Projekt Red said themselves that they want Cyberpunk 2077 to have the same quality as RDR2.
"we" because you accuse me of being a troll and my response was that I am by far not the only one.
I assume that it's graphics that got you because it's the only aspect of the game that sets a new bar. There is a difference between a new bar in technical advancement for open worlds and a new bar for open world in general.
Two words. Watch Dogs.
Absolutely embarrassing the way people acted with that shit, and it's far from the only example.
Well yeah. The doubt I've seen people have for C2077 makes no sense to me. Like, people didn't feel that the trailer/gameplay look showed the depth of the world. Uh, yeah? It was 50 minutes. That's a small fraction of anything, and a lot of that was getting right to the action "looks good for the press" stuff. It's like people just completely forgot about TW3.
Also yes RDR2 did absolutely nothing for any sort of "bar"; this isn't 2009 where I get impressed that I can wipe off a gun to raise its shinyness stat or whatever.
Also yes RDR2 did absolutely nothing for any sort of "bar"; this isn't 2009 where I get impressed that I can wipe off a gun to raise its shinyness stat or whatever.
I think that's more an indictment of the internet in general: a senseless inferno of blind, opinionated rabble that eventually burns itself out only to rekindle on the next 'hot take'.
I love the connectivity we have, though I loathe how easily that connectivity fosters negativity.
All for Summer 2020, Summer is always a drought for games idk why when there is such a potential for big sales.
They just need to get the combat/shooting right. I trust them with everything else, but combat has always been a problem in their games and its their first FPS, too.
I'm of two minds on the release date.
Realistically, I agree with you in that they announce for early 2020 - say, February, and then possibly delay to summer 2020.
But....if they announce a 2019 release date (or even a target date), that's gonna build hype like pretty much nothing else would.....but that could also 'backfire' if they have to delay again after that.
It's interesting in that there have been 'hints' both that the game has come pretty far (such as the main path being playable since august of last year), and then we get interviews like this, lol.
If only the differences included adding a third person view option. C'mon, CDPR. Don't leave me in the dust.
Errr...people really uses metacritic scores to argue game is not divisive with a straight face? lol
Edit: Of course people are already mad about a possible graphical downgrade. I think it's a fair possibility that would happen at some point, being a open world game with lots of content. Personally i think they should focus on creating a great gameplay experience with meaningful content, if they can maintain or not the graphic standard of the previous trailer shouldn't matter too much in the end.
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Yep. Wasn't even that serious. More people probably complained about downgrade complainers and RDR 2 scores (see above) than there were actual people bugging out.
That aside. I've got hope in CDPR. This doesn't sound like that big an issue.
the fact that it got 130 + GOTY awards shows that it wasn't really divisive
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I'm not sure if you all have read the very clear quotes coming out of CDPR. They also squashed the countless threads about the perspective on their own forums.
I can't find the other quote, but there's even a quote where they say they are only focusing on first-person for launch, and that they are MAYBE thinking about other perspectives down the line.
And I won't requote myself, but again, it seems a lot of people have a gap in knowledge about what it takes to make the different perspectives and the large amount of work it would actually take to "just make it third-person as well". Not to mention the fact that for a game with reportedly this much detail, it might conflict with the design.
I don't think goty awards show anything other than what was the most hyped game with enormous marketing and production values of said year. But opinions.
It's okay that you and a big portion of these 23m people loved RDR2 for what it is, but criticism against the game by another portion is also valid and regarded as good points, which means it's a divisive game.
To all the people saying "lol downgrade" wtf did you expect when they put out that footage with the explicit warning that it was going
To massively change!? No one is trying to fool you
To massively change!? No one is trying to fool you
I didnt like god of war as much as other people, does that mean its divisive too?
literally every acclaimed game has its dedicated subtractors. BOTW is also "divisive" using that criteria
Interesting that you bring that point since god of war had the most goty awards this year. The metroidvania with excellent gameplay beat the hyper realistic sluggish to bad gameplay open world game. It had some AMAZING elements. But if I can fail a mission in an open world game for not doing it the exact way the game wants me to, the open world crumbles to nothing
Conversely I still have problems believing it was all real. The amount of complexity showed or even just hinted was genuinely impressive.
To the point I'm basically confident it won't look that good on consoles, and I'm still questioning if it's feasible on PC.
Also, it really didn't remind me of "a bunch of FPS". It looked like a Vampire Bloodlines with ten times the size, budget and production value. Which I would definitely dig.
By that definition anything can be labelled divisive because you aren't gonna get a unified opinion on anything. It's divisive to you, that doesn't make it so for the rest of the world.
Oh my, staaaaaaahp.
As for Cyberpunk, sounds like some cool changes. I just hope the crowds aren't too scaled back especially on consoles, I wouldn't buy a gimped version especially as next generation isn't too far off.
Why are people still hoping for 3rd person mode? Even after the developer squashed it like a billions times. Acceptance is hard for some people i guess...
As long as it does not turn into Colonel Marines, I will be buying it on next gen hardware post dozen patches.
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Nothing is universally praised.
It's normal that a game like God of War, or dunno, Ocarina of Time, or Hollow Knight, are regarded as not as good as some people think. They're not divisive because of that. Most people like them in different levels (from "this is the best thing ever" to "it's just okay"), and opinions regarding them as actual bad games are rare.
This is completely different from RDR2 scenario. It's less about "it's not that good" and more like "how the hell people have fun with this?".
This is not a post to bash RDR2. Even if i don't care about the game or open world stuff in general, i'm a fan of Souls games, which are also really divisive. I love them but it's not hard to understand why people simply can't stand playing these.
Dunno if it's because RDR2 is really mainstream and check most goty boxes, but it's sad that fans of the game regards any criticism as invalid because of arbitrary numbers and stuff like this.
To maintain this universally loved status of their beloved games, some people simply doesn't exist, or are trolling, or baiting or whatever.