D.C. lawmaker who said Jews control the weather visits Holocaust Museum but leaves early

Kirblar

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The visit went poorly, to put it mildly.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c0d03aa1e8ee
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The photo, taken in 1935, depicts a woman in a dark dress shuffling down a street in Norden, Germany. A large sign hangs from her neck: “I am a German girl and allowed myself to be defiled by a Jew.” She is surrounded by Nazi stormtroopers.

D.C. Council member Trayon White Sr. (D-Ward 8) studied the image. “Are they protecting her?”

Lynn Williams, an expert on educational programs at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum and White’s tour guide for the day, stared at the photo.

“No,” she said. “They’re marching her through.”

“Marching through is protecting,” White said.

“I think they’re humiliating her,” Williams replied.
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The museum allows photos for personal use, and the council member and his aides took many. As Williams explained the workings of the Nazis’ pseudoscientific race propaganda, White held up his cellphone before a poster with images of black, Native American and Australian men, titled “Rassen der Erde” — “Races of the Earth.” An aide took a shot of a pile of Torahs desecrated on Kristallnacht.

The group paused before grainy photos of German troops executing Catholic clergy in Poland by firing squad. “Were they actually manufacturing these weapons?” White asked.

Moments later, White was nowhere to be seen.

Glazer, the rabbi, texted him to ask his whereabouts. He wrote back that he hoped to see her outside the museum but he had to leave soon for an event in Ward 8.

The tour, scheduled to last 90 minutes, was halfway done
. Seven of White’s staff members stayed with the guide, who soon was showing them an exhibit on the Warsaw Ghetto. As she explained the walling in of Polish Jews, one aide asked whether it was similar to “a gated community.”

Glazer spoke up.

“Yeah, I wouldn’t call it a gated community,” she said. “More like a prison.”
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The tour over, the rabbi praised White for being “very sincere in wanting to come here.” But she was perplexed by his abrupt exit.

“I do not know what happened, and I find it confusing,” she said.

White, it turned out, was standing alone on the sidewalk outside the museum.


“I’ll be coming back to see more of the museum. I didn’t get a chance to see the whole thing,” he said. “But I think it’s a lot of education here, a lot of synergy here between what happened to the Jewish community and the African community.”

Asked why he left the tour halfway and where he went, he said nothing and held his cellphone to his ear.

Asked whether he had reassessed his comments about the Rothschilds in light of what he had just seen, White walked east on Independence Avenue.

“This opportunity has given me the chance to meet a lot of great Jews, a lot of people. A lot of good Jews that I’ve never had the chance to meet before,” he said after a long silence. “It’s an awesome experience.”
 

ahoyhoy

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Holy shit. The title buried the lead. Dude comes off comically ignorant.

Like, he comes off so Trumpy it's astounding.
 

CoolestSpot

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This reads like parody holy shit

The Jews went through enough bs that I'd think people would at the very least respect their struggle and not add to it
 

Tagyhag

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The guy can see the parallels between Jewish and African American problems but still doesn't see the big picture? It's true, you really do need to be a psychopath to be in politics.

If jews controlled the weather wouldn't israel be a eutopia not a desert?
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 

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D.C. Council member Trayon White Sr. (D-Ward 8) studied the image. “Are they protecting her?”

Lynn Williams, an expert on educational programs at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum and White’s tour guide for the day, stared at the photo.

“No,” she said. “They’re marching her through.”

“Marching through is protecting,” White said.
What in the fuck is going on in his mind
 

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“This opportunity has given me the chance to meet a lot of great Jews, a lot of people. A lot of good Jews that I’ve never had the chance to meet before,” he said after a long silence. “It’s an awesome experience.”
Why does this guy sound like Donald Trump
 

Doomguy Fieri

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The guy comes across as extraordinarily ignorant. He's either ridiculously uniformed or he's struggling to reconcile having to act like a normal person with actually believing a bunch of anti-semitic conspiracy nonsense.
 

Kernel

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What in the fuck is going on in his mind
People who can’t let go of long held beliefs will try and find some way of rationalizing of what they see and what they’ve long believed in an attempt to protect themselves from facing the fact that they’re wrong. No matter how stupid it is.

I think there’s a term for it.
 

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The group paused before grainy photos of German troops executing Catholic clergy in Poland by firing squad. “Were they actually manufacturing these weapons?” White asked.
what? there are so many whats here.
 

WedgeX

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Let's recall how he tried to get himself out of trouble after saying the Rothchild's were controlling climate change in order to control cities:

White said his “friends” at Jews United for Justice, a group that advocates for progressive causes and endorsed him in 2016, were “helping me to understand the history of comments made against Jews and I am committed to figuring out ways continue to be allies with them and others.”
He's not trying very hard.
 
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Yeah that's kinda fucked, but it also sounds like a lot of the people being given the tour legitimately were never taught this history before.

I want to be optimistic and hope that it was more the shock of learning all this horrific history at once was overwhelming for him. To come to a realization that a people his friends had told him for years were his oppressors actually turned out to be the oppressed too. Imagine how that would feel.......
 
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Kirblar

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Yeah that's kinda fucked, but it also sounds like a lot of the people being given the tour legitimately were never taught this history before.

I want to be optimistic and hope that it was more the shock of learning all this horrific history at once was overwhelming for him. To come to a realization that a people his friends had told him for years were his oppressors actually turned out to be the oppressed too. Imagine how that would feel.......
You're not fixing this at his age and w/ THAT reaction. Running away instead of facing it is cowardice.
 

excelsiorlef

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There are not enough whats in the world to adequately respond to that.

Reality writes for the Onion now.

Or more so Reality is an Onion Writer
 
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You're not fixing this at his age and w/ THAT reaction. Running away instead of facing it is cowardice.
It's not like he didn't go at all. He just had to step outside for a bit partway through.

Imagine you had been raised for years to believe that you were oppressed by Jews. And now you are at a museum that has photographic evidence that these people your friends had taught you to hate had actually been victims of one of the worst oppressions.

Like imagine the psychological shock to the system that would be if you had never been taught about the holocaust before. Because the quotes from that story indicate that this guy likely never had been taught about it before.
 

Baji Boxer

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Yeah that's kinda fucked, but it also sounds like a lot of the people being given the tour legitimately were never taught this history before.

I want to be optimistic and hope that it was more the shock of learning all this horrific history at once was overwhelming for him. To come to a realization that a people his friends had told him for years were his oppressors actually turned out to be the oppressed too. Imagine how that would feel.......
Ok, lets say this is accurate and he's on his way to leaving anti-semetism behind... he still claimed a family had the power to control the weather.
 
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Ok, lets say this is accurate and he's on his way to leaving anti-semetism behind... he still claimed a family had the power to control the weather.
Right that was what led to him being asked to tour this museum in the first place.

Now if AFTER this visit he says more stuff like that, THEN I'd be worried he's not learning.
 

Prophaniti

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People who can’t let go of long held beliefs will try and find some way of rationalizing of what they see and what they’ve long believed in an attempt to protect themselves from facing the fact that they’re wrong. No matter how stupid it is.

I think there’s a term for it.
Stupid. The term you're looking for is stupid. He's stupid.
 

Akira86

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the man that cannot humble himself is lost. maybe he needs to give up politics and go back to community organizing, but keep trying to learn something.
 
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Kirblar

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It's not like he didn't go at all. He just had to step outside for a bit partway through.

Imagine you had been raised for years to believe that you were oppressed by Jews. And now you are at a museum that has photographic evidence that these people your friends had taught you to hate had actually been victims of one of the worst oppressions.

Like imagine the psychological shock to the system that would be if you had never been taught about the holocaust before. Because the quotes from that story indicate that this guy likely never had been taught about it before.
He left halfway through and lied about why he left.
 

Plumbob

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It's not like he didn't go at all. He just had to step outside for a bit partway through.

Imagine you had been raised for years to believe that you were oppressed by Jews. And now you are at a museum that has photographic evidence that these people your friends had taught you to hate had actually been victims of one of the worst oppressions.

Like imagine the psychological shock to the system that would be if you had never been taught about the holocaust before. Because the quotes from that story indicate that this guy likely never had been taught about it before.
I don't believe in offering holocaust deniers argumentative charity.
 
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KSweeley

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What the fuck is going on w/ DC schools???
A lot of things according to WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...bf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.83993e69af90

D.C. is owed $551,000 in tuition from the families of students who live outside the city as a result of residency fraud: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...b3c5a3da888_story.html?utm_term=.082b3d54c92b

And it's D.C. school officials who are committing residency fraud causing the school system to lose money: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...ba0ed2371cc_story.html?utm_term=.c06be8231395
 
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Control the weather? I wonder if this is taken from something said about Wilhelm Reich.
"protecting her" "gated community" What a way to interpret those images. Shows the importance of education, these types of museums and keeping vigilant about holocaust deniers.
 

bremon

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Marching is protecting? A gated fucking community? Seeing pictures of executions and your takeaway is wondering about weapons manufacturing? God damn. This is astoundingly stupid.
 
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Not what he texted and especially not what he said in response to the reporter outside. (which, was others have stated, is eerily Trump-like in phrasing.)
Wait what did he text? I must have missed that.

Edit: oh right yeah he lied about having event. like I said he probably didn't want to say he needed a breather from the shock of seeing how he fucked up.