Daily Kos Editor attacks Nina Turner in a series of tweets

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Armando Llorens, a contributing editor for Daily Kos, is under fire after posting several tweets smearing Nina Turner, a Bernie Sanders campaign co-chair. Llorens sent multiple tweets on August 20 calling Turner “f—ing stupid”. The most egregious tweet alleged that Bernie Sanders is paying Turner to have sex with him.
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This is not the first example & won't be the last... with allies like these who needs Trump
 

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Armando Llorens is an idiot but what exactly is racist or sexist about his tweets?
 

Joni

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Implying that Bernie pays her for sex is sexist and he really shouldn't do stuff like that. On the other hand, calling a Democrat who voted for Jill Stein in 2016 stupid is the truth.
 

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Armando Llorens is an idiot but what exactly is racist or sexist about his tweets?
Where is the racism and sexism?
Is there more to this story?
I can't read anything sexist or racist out of these tweets, just personal name-calling by someone with obvious problems.
"what's funny is stupid ass bernie is paying you to fuck him"

textbook sexism
 

tommy7154

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Where is the racism here? Dont need to add shit that isnt necessarily there to give others ammo to refute it.

Can the title be changed to remove the racism?
 

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Implying that Bernie pays her for sex is sexist and he really shouldn't do stuff like that. On the other hand, calling a Democrat who voted for Jill Stein in 2016 stupid is the truth.
I mean, that's obviously not what that person was implying.

"Paying you to fuck him" in the sense that they're being paid to fuck him over, which is what they're doing. Some of his campaign staff/surrogates are just horrible and that doesn't speak well of Bernie's judgement.
 

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Drama between liberal twitter and leftist twitter exhausts and depresses me unlike very few other things. Even though I know it doesn't really matter. It just does.
 

Donthizz

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Lot of people inside the dem party hate Turner for voting Jill Stein instead of Hillary.
 

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I mean, that's obviously not what that person was implying.

"Paying you to fuck him" in the sense that they're being paid to fuck him over, which is what they're doing. Some of his campaign staff/surrogates are just horrible and that doesn't speak well of Bernie's judgement.
Honestly, if it was intended to be understood like that, then it was still expressed horribly. It sounds very sexist.
 

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“Charitably”, it’s still a shitty double entendre. He should still apologize for a shit choice of words.
 

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I mean, that's obviously not what that person was implying.

"Paying you to fuck him" in the sense that they're being paid to fuck him over, which is what they're doing. Some of his campaign staff/surrogates are just horrible and that doesn't speak well of Bernie's judgement.
Yes, this is how I would have read the tweet if I hadn't been primed with "sexist" just before clicking. In context it looks more like "f***ed [him over]" IMO.

Still terrible things to say, regardless. Absolutely unacceptable.
 

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it looks more like "f***ed [him over]" IMO.
Okay wait, so you're saying the obvious non-primed implication here is that Bernie is paying Turner to fuck over... Bernie.

Either because Bernie hires bad people and isn't aware of it or because Turner is just bad staff and he's aware of it.

Is that the logic here?

The assumption is that Armando is accusing Turner of being party to Bernie's intentional or unintentional self sabotage?
 
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Yeah.. it's all shit but comprehensive reading is still shockingly bad here. Sorry.
Armando says it's funny that Bernie pays her for doing a bad job. So bad that she's basically fucking him over. Not literally have sex with him.
 

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Okay wait, so you're saying the obvious non-primed implication here is that Bernie is paying Turner to fuck over... Bernie.

Either because Bernie hires bad people and isn't aware of it or because Turner is just bad staff and he's aware of it.

Is that the logic here?

The assumption is that Armando is accusing Turner of being party to Bernie's intentional or unintentional self sabotage?
It seems a valid read? I.e. it's hilarious someone is wasting money on you when you're just hurting his efforts.

It really seems as if not more plausible as him literally wanting to write that it's hilarious that someone is paying you to have sex with him. Which is just kind of a random and sexist addendum if so.

I read this today in reference to primary challenges of Jerry Nadler.
“He is in one of the most liberal districts in the country with a very high college-educated Democratic primary base that’s really invested in fucking with Trump,” said Sean McElwee, an activist and the co-founder of progressive group Data for Progress. “He’s the guy who’s supposed to be the Trump fucker, and he’s not fucking Trump enough.”
... I don't think McElwee thinks Nadler isn't having enough sex with Trump?

He looks like an idiot whatever the meaning anyway.
 

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For a little more context, the whole meltdown started because Nina Turner refused to support Clinton in 2016. It's essentially a huge furball between establishment vs anti establishment Democrats that Armando jumped into with the tact and poise of a 6 year old throwing a temper tantrum.
 

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Given just the tweets posted, I don't see any reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. The idea that it is "uncharitable" to read exactly what he wrote is idiotic.
 

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Yeah.. it's all shit but comprehensive reading is still shockingly bad here. Sorry.
Armando says it's funny that Bernie pays her for doing a bad job. So bad that she's basically fucking him over. Not literally have sex with him.
Can you point out what gives that away? Because I don't think comprehensive reading is the problem. Seems more like a lack of knowledge about the people/situation.
 

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Can you point out what gives that away? Because I don't think comprehensive reading is the problem. Seems more like a lack of knowledge about the people/situation.
It comes down to how to read a text properly in context and having experience with how people can mean the things they write.
So lack of knowledge about human interaction and conversations will add to the lack of comprehension.
Sometimes people who lack a sense of sarcasm or sense of humor will have more difficulty with it. Not saying you lack that, by the way.
 
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Read it as fuck him in the sense of fuck him over, but that meltdown looks pretty stupid tbh.

All these intra-left beefs are stupid games, full of stupid prizes.
 

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This thread is like if people read “Chuck Schumer fucked us” and assumed the Justice Dems were calling him a rapist.
 
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Geoff

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Could go either way on 'paying you to fuck him' comment - probably leaning toward the 'paying you to fuck [his campaign]' angle but hard to say for sure.

If there isn't any racism there it really should be removed from the thread title - or the accusation explained at least. Not helpful otherwise.