Yes, not even slightly. As of yet it's completely unclear what the motives behind the Kyoani tragedy are. Don't fucking bring it up and try to bend the narrative to demonize some dude who made an innocuous comment at a party.
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Daisy Ridley discusses vicious fan entitlement, social media God complexes, and rude fan behavior.
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Yes, not even slightly. As of yet it's completely unclear what the motives behind the Kyoani tragedy are. Don't fucking bring it up and try to bend the narrative to demonize some dude who made an innocuous comment at a party.
Yes, that's a really important hair to split when talking about the movie she starred in, and of course this could be the only possible example of what we're talking about. Ever.
Why are people doubling down on trying to justify it being okay?
It's not okay to insult a piece of art someone created, or was a part of, in a casual setting that is not conducive to criticism. And trying to say, "but he said something nice first", doesn't make it any better and can in fact be worse. You started with a compliment and ended with an insult. It's like pulling the football out from Charlie Brown as he is about to kick it. Making someone feel good only to end on making them feel bad, is not good.
And this doesn't have be as shitty as whatever other example you want to compare it to. Something can be bad on its own.
It's not okay to insult a piece of art someone created, or was a part of, in a casual setting that is not conducive to criticism. And trying to say, "but he said something nice first", doesn't make it any better and can in fact be worse. You started with a compliment and ended with an insult. It's like pulling the football out from Charlie Brown as he is about to kick it. Making someone feel good only to end on making them feel bad, is not good.
And this doesn't have be as shitty as whatever other example you want to compare it to. Something can be bad on its own.
It's not splitting hairs at all, it's an important distinction. Calling her performance bad would be insulting and making it personal. Calling a movie that she starred in bad is neither of those things.
I worked in movies, small ones, but you become a family, you spent weeks, months and in the case of something like Star Wars years, giving everything you can to make the best movie you can.
And then an asshole in a party comes to you and says you movie is bad.
Yes it´s insulting and personal
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Going up to a stranger at a private birthday party to tell them they didn't like their movie IS insulting and personal. How do you not see this?
You know how we know? The fact she took time in an interview to bring it up to call the person rude and used them as an example of vicious fan behavior.
She clearly found it insulting given what she said.
No it's just stupid nitpicking so you can be dismissive about the fact that what this guy did is a total dick move, but hey if that's what gets your motor running...
I bet she had some uppity body language afterwards. How rude of her to be so offended.
She's a celebrity. She isn't allowed to have feelings like a normal human being
For sure. There's people here defending this shit with not even a warning
"no no no, you're not bad! It's just the movie that you and all your friends put time, effort, and passion into is terrible!"
It is absolutely rude.
Seriously this isn't some huge leap in logic.
I wish.
"Nice to meet ya, that thing you worked really hard on was kinda shit"
Not rude at all
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Because its her movie she spent years of her life helping to make and she is trying to enjoy a birthday party. You don't go up to strangers at parties and criticize stuff they worked on.
Do you know the guy who played Jar Jar Binks almost committed suicide?
I can imagine years of people giving unsolicited negative opinions aimed directly at a person and their work would be hurtful.
It just seems so trivial. As far as I could discern he wasn't even critical just voiced that he didn't like the second movie. I doubt the record scratched and everyone stopped having fun, I have nothing against her and one person's opinion doesn't invalidate her experiences or worth. So it's a bit uncomfortable? Have a drink and continue on.
Yea I'm aware. Which is what I said, he didn't specifically tell her anything other than dissatisfaction with the overall movie. If he started telling her why she sucked then heck yes that is over the line imo.
Daisy Ridley has died from alcohol poisoning for taking the great advice of having a drink each time some weirdo says a rude and uncomfortable comment.
How am I bending the narrative? And how is the comment innocuous? Listen - you might think it's innocuous and harmless, but it isn't. It's rude and offensive, and flat out a stupid thing to say. And it's a byproduct of exactly what she is talking about in her interview - people feeling big enough to do stupid shit like that, and then people like you saying "what's the big deal".
The big deal is, you let it keep going unchecked and it becomes something worse, which is potentially what has happened with KyoAni. I mean really - a guy doesn't burn a studio down and murder 30+ people unless they have some grudge with the company. It may be speculation but it isn't a huge reach and is in no way an attempt to bend some narrative. I'm just calling it for what it is, and you keep trying to hand wave it. Who is worse?
You do know what a trend is right? You do know that this isn't simply about that one interaction but multiple on multiple day after day and week after week on and off social media? You yourself have pet peeves of human behavior that in the grand scheme probably don't mean much. But the context would be entirely different if people constantly and consistently push that button nearly everywhere you go.
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Regardless of how you feel about the films, it's not the onus of the actors to please the fan base. If you don't like a thing, good for you; watch something else. No cast of actors could have made the prequels decent with the material they were handed and I think the cast was pretty damn great. I think the current cast is fantastic, but I hated Rian Johnson's vision for his film. I'll move on to find something I do like instead. I don't need to yell at him or Daisy RIdley and demand, 'tHeY MaKe gOoD StAr wArS!
Lol why would you go out of your way to tell someone their movie sucked. Like, I can see it coming from a close personal friend, but a random person? That must've been super awkward.
You're trying to leverage the shock value of a very raw tragedy by making baseless assumptions and it's fucking gross. I'm not discussing this any further.
Good. I mean I support a lot of what resetera stands for progressively (even when I get warned or banned! I'm not saying I'm a saint) but it's very four legs good two legs better in a lot of ways. What about that you tuber who killed himself? Not just weeks later you have people just ignoring that type of culture and getting annoyed when people say "hey don't call the got people awful things"
Same, but if it was someone like Daisy Ridley I would probably want to talk to her about a bunch of crap and maybe a pic so I can brag about it with my friends if she obliges. You know, typical annoying fan stuff
I wouldn't walk up to a celebrity I don't like at all. I'm not much when it comes to giving a piece of my mind
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It's honestly depressing how true it is.
he probably should have just left it at "oh man i loved TFA"
im not going to call it toxic or anything, but it was a little rude to point out the stuff he didn't like in a casual situation, but at the same time it just seems like a run of the mill rude social encounter
im not going to call it toxic or anything, but it was a little rude to point out the stuff he didn't like in a casual situation, but at the same time it just seems like a run of the mill rude social encounter
I knew when I read the OP that there would be a defense force for the freak that came up to her to bitch about TLJ.
No lies detected. This is basically a continuation of what the woman that worked on the old dub of NGE said about how people let her know for over 20 years what they thought of the dub and how much she felt for the people working on the new dub getting the same kind of shit, but people talking about it wanted to frame themselves as "her customers" and that she needed to hear their "opinions" because that's how it should work.
I think a lot of people lack tact. You don't say mean stuff like that directly to people especially face to face.
The next star wars review from RLM will have the first 15 minutes dedicated to how they're entitled to their opinions and Daisy ruined their enjoyment of the film.
It's insane. Like if I put up a film at a film festival and a friend came up and said hey buddy your film sucked. I'm not gonna be happy, and I'd say that's justified.
But people think that because star wars is in the zeitgeist, their opinions are fair game... Which they are in a public arena to a point, but a person who worked on the film is not public arena and fair game to spout your opinions to.
For real, I'm surprised social interaction studies isn't a thing already in schools especially in this era of social media where online toxicity bleeds into IRL.
'In our first class, we tackle the complex concept of treating other people the way you would like to be treated in both real life and online environments.'
