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Dangerous Driving (Burnout Spiritual Successor) is 30FPS on the base consoles (60 on the Pro/X) and apparently it has no soundtrack.
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Hi, I've worked on music licensing for rhythm games, and if you don't look at AAA artists, you can get tracks under $200 a pop, or hell, even indie artists wanting to let you use their music for free. Hell, just talk to Monstercat and you can get stuff licensed super easily - if a tiny team that worked on 'Just Shapes and Beats' being a team of... hell.. THREE people and a tiny budget can get them, there's no real excuse.
To not have any soundtrack at all is a freaking slap in the face, let alone with Spotify not being available everywhere and requiring a paid sub to play the tracks you want to play???
How expensive is this game again? Someone definitely screwed up their budgeting.
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Many do. If you open Spotify while playing Wipeout for example, you automatically get recommended a playlist with some of the best songs of the previous games, and playing it turns off the in-game music so there's no overlap.
mad respect to da devs for cutting out basic features of racing titles, super glad we'll be able to replay this turd in the future
I always figured it wascar licensing and not music that did blur in.
Who even needs soundtracks in games anymore when you can just make your own, amirite?
Make a game with no graphics and have people print out a TV overlay like the Odyssey while you're at it.
Is this the same team that did Dangerous Golf or something like that (some tech demo basically) and sold it? Or am I mistaken?
It's nice to play an emulated version of a 10+ year old game available on one of the four platforms today
To be fair EA has done Revenge and SSX3 which is pretty monumental on actually pursuing the issue of music licensing, but that's still a huge portion of their extreme sports/racing products just missing
Like I can't even play Skate 2 on my Xbox One
Love this bullshit slippery slope argument trying to reinforce some weirdo idea that people who choose to listen to their own music instead of whatever the publisher (not the developer!!!! the publisher does this) decides to be worthy for their game are apparently in the wrong
i listen to my own music in anything that's multiplayer/competitive, it's not bad
It's half the price of a retail game and was likely forecast to sell a small amount, so it looks exacty like someone go their budgeting correct :p
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Yes, they also did Danger Zone 1 and 2. They like danger it seems.
That's right and, as I understand it, the game was made by seven people with a very small budget. I'm sure they did what they could. I'd have liked to see them give a smaller composer a shot, though.
If they cant include a soundtrack, why not include a way to have your own custom soundtrack that isn't Spotify ? Like GTA4's custom radio.
Edit: Heck, aren't there some Free to use/license tracks available ?
Edit: Heck, aren't there some Free to use/license tracks available ?
Sounds like it needed a little more time in the oven. And needs to be played on PC judging by console performance.
Unfortunately the Spotify API requires a Premium sub to use Spotify integrated inside a game or the like.
Danger Zone 1&2 from them didn't have any soundtrack and it was fine because of that. You're only driving for short periods of time. This isn't an open world game where the radio plays endlessly.
The fact they've got Spotify integration is great compared to the complete lack of music before.
But, really, you won't even care. The focus is on the smashing.
The fact they've got Spotify integration is great compared to the complete lack of music before.
But, really, you won't even care. The focus is on the smashing.
Agreed, I have a mix soundtrack of my favorite songs from Burnout 3 in my playlist
Love finding new music and this would've been a great opportunity to work with "no name" bands to help them get discovered. Better than the listen to whatever you want route! I could've done that myself if the music selection was terrible.
I recently repurchased Burnout 3 to play with my 5 year old and he's loving it.
A spotify premium account streams worldwide.
Well yeah, it's made by 7 devs on a shoestring budget. Zero funds for marketing or hype generation should have given you a clue.
Say what you will about Sweeney, but he's no dope. He probably low-balled these guys.
Well yeah, it's made by 7 devs on a shoestring budget. Zero funds for marketing or hype generation should have given you a clue.
Say what you will about Sweeney, but he's no dope. He probably low-balled these guys.
They're not in the wrong at all. By all means, listen to whatever songs you want in whatever game you want, you do you.
Just don't pretend that this being the only option is a good thing.
I mean, yeah, I agree, it's not necessary but they're selling a game here and it hurts the game to not have at least something to hear.
Aren't they literally like a 5-person team? Just to get something near to a modern day Burnout out there is impressive enough to me, music and frame-rate be damned.
Yes it'd be nice to have the choice of a soundtrack or not in there and tbh the Burnout series is probably the only set of racing games where I didn't just mute music from the off but I'm not going to get upset about a tiny developer having to make compromises to get their game out there.
Yes it'd be nice to have the choice of a soundtrack or not in there and tbh the Burnout series is probably the only set of racing games where I didn't just mute music from the off but I'm not going to get upset about a tiny developer having to make compromises to get their game out there.
No problem using Spotify for me since I already do that a few hours into a racing game.
Most soundtracks get stale reeeeally quick, and the ones that don't are super expensive to license.
Most soundtracks get stale reeeeally quick, and the ones that don't are super expensive to license.
This is really clever. If they spent money on licensing a soundtrack (especially a cheap one), you'd just get people complaining they don't like the songs they picked and how they should have done something new like integrating Spotify.
The part where they don't include their own music is an understandable decision given a stupid marketing spin.
The real stupid part is that they apparently want to give Spotify subscribers special treatment. This is especially ironic given some people talking about music licensing resulting in games being delisted and/or not pressed. It's very likely Spotify will stay afloat for foreseeable future, but API changes are incredibly likely.
The real stupid part is that they apparently want to give Spotify subscribers special treatment. This is especially ironic given some people talking about music licensing resulting in games being delisted and/or not pressed. It's very likely Spotify will stay afloat for foreseeable future, but API changes are incredibly likely.
If they don't have the money for the songs, fine, but why no integrated Spotify option like Microsoft did with Forza Horizon 3 and the Microsoft music service? Sure, no big Spotify management from the game of course, but letting me choose one of my already created playlists so the game plays them natively in shuffle mode, giving you the feeling that the songs are in the game and integrated, shouldn't be too hard to do.
I mean, you can live in Zimbabwe, create a Spotify Premium account with a US address / Payment and it'll stream anywhere you go. Spotify considers this as 'roaming'.
Free accounts will only work in official territories.
Man. This game is just begging for no one to play it.
No soundtrack. Bad performance. EGS exclusive.
It's not stopping me, but it's testing my patience. I can't imagine it'll struggle too badly with a 1070. Probably be the first thing I buy on EGS, and I'll just listen to the burnout 3 soundtrack while I play lol
No soundtrack. Bad performance. EGS exclusive.
It's not stopping me, but it's testing my patience. I can't imagine it'll struggle too badly with a 1070. Probably be the first thing I buy on EGS, and I'll just listen to the burnout 3 soundtrack while I play lol
Considering all three of the platforms that have music streaming options that don't just include spotify, as well as VLC support????????????????????? then no it's not the only option lmfao
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I don't know how it works on PC, but on PS4 you can play Spotify and just shuffle from the quick menu instead of in-game. Only problem would be the ads, but hey it'd add to the realism of playing a radio.
Oh damn, must have missed that, cause that would be perfect. Too few games do something like this. Almost none and that would be so cool.
From the review on gamerevolution:
If you're playing on a computer, the problems don't end there. Dangerous Driving is currently an Epic Games Store exclusive title. This usually wouldn't impact a review in any way, but the client's lack of features makes this PC release strictly inferior to its console counterparts. Since the EGS currently doesn't have achievement support, neither does Dangerous Driving. This is excusable, but the additional lack of online leaderboards is the real bummer. Not being able to compete with friends for bragging rights is killer in a single player experience all about speed. In a game this barebones, the lack of these features really stands out.
Well done Three Fields, well done.
If you're playing on a computer, the problems don't end there. Dangerous Driving is currently an Epic Games Store exclusive title. This usually wouldn't impact a review in any way, but the client's lack of features makes this PC release strictly inferior to its console counterparts. Since the EGS currently doesn't have achievement support, neither does Dangerous Driving. This is excusable, but the additional lack of online leaderboards is the real bummer. Not being able to compete with friends for bragging rights is killer in a single player experience all about speed. In a game this barebones, the lack of these features really stands out.
Well done Three Fields, well done.
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Dude shut the fuck up rofl
The fuck am I gonna go around looking for a US address and payment option for a service not supported in my country just to play some music the devs picked out? Not to mention I'd have to pay extra for the game to have a soundtrack at all.
Miss me with this disingenuous shit.
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Adding to that, some people on the game's subreddit have been complaining a bit about performance.
Online is coming later though, no?
The "this is so lazy/cheap" comments are really disappointing
I wouldn't be surprised if Just Shapes & Beats had a bigger budget than this game. Time is money, and the Just Shapes devs were able to make their game over at least four years.
I wouldn't be surprised if Just Shapes & Beats had a bigger budget than this game. Time is money, and the Just Shapes devs were able to make their game over at least four years.
AFAIK (I'm the writer of that review), online is coming to all versions of the game within the first month, but the console versions ship with leaderboards and the PC version just doesn't have them.
It's definitely possible. I only posted it since the user I quoted brought up price and that costs $20 vs this games $30. Which they seemed to miss.
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Oh, that's a shame. Hopefully the game does well so they can implement some stuff like that.