There's always two things that bug me when I see situations like this:
1. I don't like it when people lump a couple of posters opinion together and deem it Resetera consensus as a whole. That was a big issue with Gaf, like the forum was some big boogyman in the woods throwing rocks at industry people... instead of a simple platform with various gamers from different walks of life. It always quickly decends from "So and so posted this shit about me." to "Yeah, fuck that entire site and the people on it."
2. As far as the site is concerned, I also hate how everything is so polarized too (I do agree with Jaffe on that). Everything is wrestling... It's either you're a heel or a comrade, for or against, no shades of gray or middle ground. But hell, I guess that's how everything is and has always been, from gaming websites, to politics, sports, and society as a whole.
Anyways, whatever...
Sure, no prob, but I do want to say that this isn't a matter of semantics. We both agree that what happened is that Kratos got fucked over by Ares and he didn't expect to be fucked over and him being angry about being fucked over is something he can understandably be angry about. We're on common ground there.dude whatever we're splitting hairs at this point, we're just discussing semantics, to what end actually lol? I still think that Kratos's use of the word betrayal in his context was correct, you don't, let's just leave each other with that, I don't even care about this argument that much to let it continue, which besides, is extremely offtopic as is. So in conclusion, my dude, have a good stay in this thread and see you around on the site✌️
It may also be because they think they will get banned instantly for having a dissenting viewpoint. You say "offensive bigotry", but this could be an awfully broad brush, depending on one's interpretation. These days everyone's an extremist, and people like Jaffe get mocked because they say stuff like "let's all just let people have whatever opinions they want", which is exactly what Voltaire said in his treatise on Toleration (p54) https://archive.org/details/tolerationother00volt/page/43 :
"Do I propose then, that every citizen shall be free to follow his own reason, and believe whatever this enlightened or deluded reason shall dictate to him? Certainly, provided he does not disturb the public order."
There are laws against incitement, and there are laws against vilification and discrimination. These are all well and good, but let's be careful we don't impose laws against giving your opinion.
Wikipedia said:In short, we find in them only an ignorant and barbarous people, who have long united the most sordid avarice with the most detestable superstition and the most invincible hatred for every people by whom they are tolerated and enriched.
Yep. Never reflecting what got these people removed from the spotlight in the first place. Just some disingenuous call for the public to be forcefully subjected to their bullshit again because "what about free speech?"There's this pure coincidence where people who want Milo to have a platform never actually acknowledge the things that Milo has done.
If you support racism, misogyny, pedophillia, homophobia, nationalism...fuck you.
Everything is wrestling... It's either you're a heel or a comrade, for or against, no shades of gray or middle ground. But hell, I guess that's how everything is and has always been, from gaming websites, to politics, sports, and society as a whole.
Anyways, whatever...
All those occupied showers ripe for naked invasion!Now he can go into bars and grope women all he wants without being hated by his users.
Right? We're not perfect, but if alt-right sympathizers don't like us, I can't help but feel we're doing something right.
A purge a day keeps the alt-right accounts at baythese threads ALWAYS seem to attract the low post count accounts lmao.
it's not slander if it's true
I don't care what anyone else says, you're not completely horrible.
You still how a long way to go before you make up for that ReBoot slander, though.
Regarding point 2. If you are in the middle of an argument and by that I mean you can see and relate to both sides of the coin, you are less likely to have a strong opinion and therefore post.There's always two things that bug me when I see situations like this:
1. I don't like it when people lump a couple of posters opinion together and deem it Resetera consensus as a whole. That was a big issue with Gaf, like the forum was some big boogyman in the woods throwing rocks at industry people... instead of a simple platform with various gamers from different walks of life. It always quickly decends from "So and so posted this shit about me." to "Yeah, fuck that entire site and the people on it." Like, if you're going to go apeshit, do it on the individual, instead of lazily stating the masses, because no... not everyone gives a shit in the first place.
2. As far as the site is concerned, I also hate how everything is so polarized too (I do agree with Jaffe on that). Everything is wrestling... It's either you're a heel or a comrade, for or against, no shades of gray or middle ground. But hell, I guess that's how everything is and has always been, from gaming websites, to politics, sports, and society as a whole.
Anyways, whatever...
when you lose freeze peach in your dreamsbut if we ostracise the alt right doesn't that, in a roundabout way, make *us* the alt right?
oh you mean nothing works that way? oh well never mind then
But aren't these the threads where Gritty is supposed to be the most woke???
And you are a genwunner, and that's worse than all the racism in the world
He's supposed to be out in the world hunting fascists with his stick or something. I guess this is his side job.But aren't these the threads where Gritty is supposed to be the most woke???
People have alt accounts ready to go for Twitch cause they just need tell streamers they are playing a "shitty game".
goddamn this gif will never not make me laugh
That's the thing, they do. As long as I've been browsing this site, the entire notion of "Separating the artist and art" always comes up. Individuals getting lambasted over supporting the art, when the artist was a scumbag. Literally the same situation happening now.Okay, so I'm going to have to follow up with this. Why did you make a post about separating the art from the artist when this thread has absolutely nothing to do with that to begin with? This is not a thread about Twisted Metal or God of War, and there is no reason why people's opinions about these games even has to come up in order for you to engage in the topic.
There's always a middle when you're unaffected by it. Between supporting minorities and calling for their extermination, there's a vast gulf of apathy.
Getting banned isn't the main concern. Assholes get weeded out smoothly for the most part.There has never not been a balance. The problem is people on the right using veiled rhetoric so as to come off as disingenuous and or being too afraid that their views(which lets face it are often antithetical to equality for all) will get them banned.
No one here would call for a ban if people legitimately asked questions about homosexuality or trans issues or why minorities face greater levels of systemic oppression. But those questions rarely get asked. The only discourse arises when someone(presumably) from the left raises an issue or concern and then centrists and right leaning individuals chime in with non sequiturs, what aboutism, and other fallacies EVEN after being informed that their opinion is harmful or their logic flawed.
Milo outed a trans student and drove his followers to hack Leslie Jones's websiteI've also read up on the Milo situation as well. He's a right asshole, but as long as his words aren't physically affecting someone
But aren't these the threads where Gritty is supposed to be the most woke???
And you are a genwunner, and that's worse than all the racism in the world
Getting banned isn't the main concern. Assholes get weeded out smoothly for the most part.
But it is how people respond to and jump on some posters that discourages them from engaging in future discussions. That continues on for a while, little by little, and the end result is an echo chamber where differing points of view immediately stick out and are met with unprompted hostility that, for some reason or another, is somehow tolerated.
Funny Jaffe would say that "there are laws against that stuff" when we've seen these past years how police will side with white supremacist neo-Nazis and protect them during rallies. The law is on their side because of how systemic this all is.
The Constantine threadsthese threads ALWAYS seem to attract the low post count accounts lmao.
Sorry if I missed it, but what are some of the different point of views that the right holds that should be discussed with civility around here? Guns and taxes? Because for the most part, those are discussed alright around here.Getting banned isn't the main concern. Assholes get weeded out smoothly for the most part.
But it is how people respond to and jump on some posters that discourages them from engaging in future discussions. That continues on for a while, little by little, and the end result is an echo chamber where differing points of view immediately stick out and are met with unprompted hostility that, for some reason or another, is somehow tolerated.
So you didn't actually read up on Milo then, got it.I've also read up on the Milo situation as well. He's a right asshole, but as long as his words aren't physically affecting someone, he's allowed his idiotic opinion, just like everyone here is.
I haven't spent much time there since Resetera was made, but the little time i have spent there I got the impression that a lot of people there seem to think that.
Oh no quick someone turn on the Jaffe signal.Patreon's gone ahead and banned Milo after only a day. https://www.resetera.com/threads/mi...n-account-banned-after-less-than-a-day.85388/
Please, Jaffe, you have to save your good pal from this travesty! /s
P.S. Continue fucking right off.
If you want to know my honest opinion about this whole direct situation, I truly believe its hyperbolic, on both sides.