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nikos

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I honestly can not believe some of you people don't know who David Jaffe is. You must be really young.

I also have never seen a video of him not making sense. He speaks the truth and doesn't sugar coat it. Unfortunately, this generation isn't really used to that.
 

iamsgod

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Oct 27, 2017
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I actually agree with him. Era suffers from a weak hive mind mentality occasionally and can be a little much. Something has to change or we start turning into neogaf. Now i am not to familar with him as a person but 5 minutes into the video he seems upset. What the fuck did yall do?
try to learn the context before you reply then
 

BeaconofTruth

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I actually agree with him. Era suffers from a weak hive mind mentality occasionally and can be a little much. Something has to change or we start turning into neogaf. Now i am not to familar with him as a person but 5 minutes into the video he seems upset. What the fuck did yall do?
What do you mean turning into? Era is Neogaf, neogaf 2. That cesspool left behind is a shell of its former self for scumbags.

Otherwise "hive mind" is always a bit too exaggerated as a generalization. He is wrong about so much shit, but the knee jerk reaction to condemn to a level where a person becomes irredeemable is absurd.

Milo is a lost cause, I think Jaffe is just ignorant. You can't fix a bigot, you can teach ignorant people.
 

Weiss

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what does that mean?

Basically, Milo uses his sexuality to prove he's on board with the Alt-Right message by shaming his own sexuality and by consequence all queer men. You know how people try to defend racist arguments by going "I have a Black friend"? Milo's basically doing that.


I am very tired from work and about to go to bed, I watched the video for 5 minutes. If you don't want to provide a link that is fine.



For future reference you should put in the work before coming in and making an ass of yourself.
 

Akronis

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Fuck you im tired exhausted and sore. I do not need your condecending attitude. I put up with a lot of shit today.

Then why are you even in this thread if you're going to shit it up with your laziness to even grasp the very basic things needed to PROPERLY PARTICIPATE.

You're making my brain sore, so that makes two of us I guess.

EDIT: and just like that, the soreness is gone. Thanks mods.
 

Acido

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You can't tolerate bigotry. Why don't more people know about the tolerance paradox? It's 2018, don't you have a phone, Jeff?

Leaving people like Milo Yiasksjdksh without a platform fucking works and then some. These people making mental gymnastics to defend them SMELL of projection and that is even more proof that it works.

Anyways, always be suspect of people who say stuff like "ruining our country". People that have no issue with the status are either idiots or privileged assholes.
 

Captjohnboyd

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Fuck you im tired exhausted and sore. I do not need your condecending attitude. I put up with a lot of shit today.
You know what else is tired? You acting like you don't know why people are upset. People have explained that you should at least educate yourself if you're going to attempt to argue in good faith but you just whine about how rough a day you're having. Go to bed then. You won't be missed
 

L Thammy

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I honestly can not believe some of you people don't know who David Jaffe is. You must be really young.

I also have never seen a video of him not making sense. He speaks the truth and doesn't sugar coat it. Unfortunately, this generation isn't really used to that.

1. Maybe some people just don't care about God of War? I had a Gamecube, kiddo. I didn't really hear his name flying around too much back in the PS1 days either.

2. So, do you agree that pro-pedophilia people should be given a platform by private entities? Do you believe that's something this generation isn't used to?
 

Jarate

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Oct 25, 2017
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david jaffe refused to debate me like a coward, and banned me from his twitch because he couldnt handle free speech

pc police wouldnt even let me debate him wOW
 

Akronis

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I honestly can not believe some of you people don't know who David Jaffe is. You must be really young.

I also have never seen a video of him not making sense. He speaks the truth and doesn't sugar coat it. Unfortunately, this generation isn't really used to that.

those hard truths like "lets tolerate hate speech even after this particular person I'm defending has incited harassment on others and is also a pedophile"

not sure what you're smoking bro, but you should probably either stop or smoke way way more until those opinions go away
 

.exe

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I don't even have to watch the video to know he's an attention-starved manchild.

Best thing we can do is to ignore and forget Jaffe and his utterly meaningless existence.
 

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Sorry if I missed it, but what are some of the different point of views that the right holds that should be discussed with civility around here? Guns and taxes? Because for the most part, those are discussed alright around here.
I really hate that I have to do this, but I'll oblige.

For example, and this is the same example I brought up in a separate thread, the introduction of several new gender pronouns.

I think it is worth discussing, and not every person who's against it is a certified bigot.

I for example agree with the notion, but disagree with the shear amount and volume of these new pronouns.

I shouldn't have to cite these different view points to get my point across. I understand that we had multiple incidents where people from the alt-right tried to slither their way into conversations trying their best to hide their true hateful intentions, but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to every single argument coming from the right due to that.
 

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no one should have to educate you on your bad faith bullshit
I dont do bad faith bullshit
They'll use him as a token and prop him up until he uses up his usefulness to them
that doesnt mean he doesnt believe it. is it the concensus of this board that any minority whether by race gender or sexual preference that has a right of center political stance is stupid or "selling out"
 

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So, he responded to someone saying that he actually is not against twitter and other private platforms banning Milo/Alex Jones but against people banning them from colleges. He is in favor of the marketplace of ideas.

But then he says he was schooled by someone here that showed him that Milo was being paid to talk on universities by rich republicans.
 

Oticon

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I don't understand. Milo, Alex Jones, and all the other alt right people can talk loud and proud all they want, that doesn't mean the rest of us have to listen to them. This is literally how our social contract works now in the modern world, your speech is protected from the government persecuting you - however there is no obligation for you to be heard.

What has happened to these alt-right guys is basically the majority have come to the conclusion that they add nothing of value, their ideas are garbage, and they incite violence, harassment, and division. Therefore, companies like Youtube, Twitter and PayPal would rather not have their companies associated with ideas that they don't agree with. This is how the system works.
 
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I honestly can not believe some of you people don't know who David Jaffe is. You must be really young.

I also have never seen a video of him not making sense. He speaks the truth and doesn't sugar coat it. Unfortunately, this generation isn't really used to that.

Haha what? I am an old man too, lol, and if anything, "this generation" is actually the generation where people do speak out more without sugarcoating stuff. In fact, you can even say that large movements like Black Lives Matter and MeToo can be attributed to people being fed up of not speaking out about their issues.

What I meant is, just because Jaffe is an 'expert' of 'telling it like it is', that doesn't mean what he says automatically have merits or anything.
 
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Weiss

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I really hate that I have to do this, but I'll oblige.

For example, and this is the same example I brought up in a separate thread, the introduction of several new gender pronouns.

I think it is worth discussing, and not every person who's against it is a certified bigot.

I for example agree with the notion, but disagree with the shear amount and volume of these new pronouns.

I shouldn't have to cite these different view points to get my point across. I understand that we had multiple incidents where people from the alt-right tried to slither their way into conversations trying their best to hide their true hateful intentions, but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to every single argument coming from the right due to that.

You should have to cite these different view points because that's how you make an argument.Like seriously, the worst you can come up with is "lol these crazy libs and their gender pronouns"?

The Right and the Right-aligned have made it clear they're the enemy of civil liberty and progressing society to a better standpoint for the marginalized.
 

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You won't get an answer, but imagine stuff like "maybe gay conversion therapy is not that bad", or "maybe racism doesn't exist, or it's not that bad"? I can imagine how gamers might feel like disallowing such views is a FAR LEFT SJW SOCIALIST CENSORSHIP thing.
Tell me, with all honesty, that shit like this isn't more tolerated here when it is as banal, ignorant and dismissive as what alt-right bigots spew.

P.S. sorry to disappoint you.
 

Jarate

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Oct 25, 2017
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David Jaffe is too much of a coward to accept that subway sandwichers best bread is actually the holes wheat bread. PC police doesn't want me to say it but it is true
 

Captjohnboyd

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sure let's Civilly Discuss why the introduction of these pronouns that approximately 1% of the population uses sends 35% into a towering prescriptivist rage
Yeah I've never understood this argument against using people's preferred pronouns. Having to add a couple words to your infinite vocab is really that big a drag for you?

I understand. They're bigots
 

Einchy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think he'll care. He was saying that he agrees that people should be able to spread their desire for an white ethnostate, after all, a process that is literally impossible to achieve without genocidal violence.



He's entirely unconcerned with others' wellbeing.

His platform amounts to "Nazis should be allowed to spread their innate violent rhetoric without being shouted down" because he doesn't care for the people that will be hurt.

It's all theoretical to him.


"We don't need your protection"

Because when white people talk about having an ethnostate for only white people the people who obviously need protecting are other white people. Of course YOU don't need protection, you dingus. They're not arguing for having YOUR existence expunged.
 

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that doesnt mean he doesnt believe it. is it the concensus of this board that any minority whether by race gender or sexual preference that has a right of center political stance is stupid or "selling out"
people are assuming he's arguing in bad faith because he often does.

There's also the case how before he got entangled in gamergate he was writing articles about how he thought gamers were scum only to do a full 180 when he realized he had a potential captive audience in the gamergate crowd that were looking for right wing media personalities to start backing them up
It's easy to mock video gamers as dorky loners in yellowing underpants. Indeed, in previous columns, I've done it myself. Occasionally at length. But, the more you learn about the latest scandal in the games industry, the more you start to sympathise with the frustrated male stereotype. Because an army of sociopathic feminist programmers and campaigners, abetted by achingly politically correct American tech bloggers, are terrorising the entire community – lying, bullying and manipulating their way around the internet for profit and attention.

So they're just using his past behavior to inform their views on his current behavior


And to your second question: nah. We obviously know that there are true believers.
 
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