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aSqueakyLime

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Oct 27, 2017
1,434
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Didn't see if this was posted here yet.



He starts by saying he wouldn't date a transgender woman simply for the fact she was once a man biologically (no other reason). Then goes to say "If I don't want to date a black woman, I'm a racist? If I don't want to date an Irish woman I'm anti-Irish?" Completely missing the point that yes, if you don't want to date a black woman because she is black, you are racist. And if you don't want to date a transgender woman because she is transgender you are transphobic.


One of the comments on it reads "shemale and ladyboy are common terms used as banter in England".

How thick does one have to be to say this? They absolutely are slurs over here. Jesus what a fucking lying idiot lmao.

This whole situation makes me want to blow my brains out.
 

andymcc

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,271
Columbus, OH
This is so wrong, I'm not interested in dating a black woman and some other cultures that I don't have a preference for, doesn't mean I'm racist towards any of those cultures. I have a thing for Asian women, but that comes down to my taste and has nothing to do with anything they do or don't do.

holy shit what a loaded statement.
 

TheRealDennis

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
72
Germany
Jaffe is an idiot who is trying to stay relevant by talking nonsense.
That being said the community on this website as well as the moderation is highly questionable, so it's good that someone calls out this site as it might result in change.
 

Mcfrank

Member
Oct 28, 2017
15,199
This is so wrong, I'm not interested in dating a black woman and some other cultures that I don't have a preference for, doesn't mean I'm racist towards any of those cultures. I have a thing for Asian women, but that comes down to my taste and has nothing to do with anything they do or don't do or me believing they ar e better than anyone else, nor am I Asian.

A preference to date someone is very personal, not wanting to date a transgender is VERY different from hanging out or being friends. Now if you don't want to be friends or deal with this person in any way, or you try to avoid, then I would say you're transphobic, I mean whats next? If I don't want to eat a burger it means I have a food disorder?
what? Re-read what you wrote and tell us it doesn't sound racist.
 

skillzilla81

Self-requested temporary ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,043
Jaffe is an idiot who is trying to stay relevant by talking nonsense.
That being said the community on this website as well as the moderation is highly questionable, so it's good that someone calls out this site as it might result in change.

Go on...

Specifically, how would an asshole saying we should allow supremacists a platform to preach the gospel of a white ethnostate impact this website?

What changes would you like to see as an effect from a person espousing such opinions?
 

Alucrid

Chicken Photographer
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Oct 25, 2017
11,411
This is so wrong, I'm not interested in dating a black woman and some other cultures that I don't have a preference for, doesn't mean I'm racist towards any of those cultures. I have a thing for Asian women, but that comes down to my taste and has nothing to do with anything they do or don't do or me believing they ar e better than anyone else, nor am I Asian.

A preference to date someone is very personal, not wanting to date a transgender is VERY different from hanging out or being friends. Now if you don't want to be friends or deal with this person in any way, or you try to avoid, then I would say you're transphobic, I mean whats next? If I don't want to eat a burger it means I have a food disorder?

so uh what is it about the "culture" of "asian women" that you like so much
 

Journey

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Dec 1, 2017
168
holy shit what a loaded statement.


Loaded? I prefer to date someone that shares the same comfort foods, the music I like to dance to, religious views, etc. I have dated a black and Indian woman, and well it didn't work out long term because our cultures were too different, now I simply choose not to, does that make me racist?
 

TheRealDennis

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
72
Germany
User Banned (permanent): Junior phase account pushing false information over numerous posts; inflammatory thread derail
Me and friends of mine have reported people who say that there is nothing wrong with sexualizing underage looking girls or that boys should be sexualized too for equality sake. But literally none of the reported people ever got banned.
It's sick imo
 

andymcc

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,271
Columbus, OH
Jaffe is an idiot who is trying to stay relevant by talking nonsense.
That being said the community on this website as well as the moderation is highly questionable, so it's good that someone calls out this site as it might result in change.

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Loaded? I prefer to date someone that shares the same comfort foods, the music I like to dance to, religious views, etc. I have dated a black and Indian woman, and well it didn't work out long term because our cultures were too different, now I simply choose not to, does that make me racist?

black people listen to different music and eat different food? lmao
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,616
Making conclusions about an entire races taste in music based off one person you date brehs.
 

PMS341

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt-account
Banned
Oct 29, 2017
6,634
Loaded? I prefer to date someone that shares the same comfort foods, the music I like to dance to, religious views, etc. I have dated a black and Indian woman, and well it didn't work out long term because our cultures were too different, now I simply choose not to, does that make me racist?

I mean, yeah.
 

Jeronimo

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Nov 16, 2017
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He must have lots of free time.

I haven't had time in the last week or so to read up on the comments that started this whole thing, and don't care to. Be careful with your words, they may (appropriately) be used against you.
 

Alucrid

Chicken Photographer
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Oct 25, 2017
11,411
Loaded? I prefer to date someone that shares the same comfort foods, the music I like to dance to, religious views, etc. I have dated a black and Indian woman, and well it didn't work out long term because our cultures were too different, now I simply choose not to, does that make me racist?

what is your culture that is apparently incompatible with black or indian women yet completely compatible with asian women despite you yourself not being asian?

Umm... I find them very attractive most of the time? lol, wtf?

well is it a "culture" thing or a physical appearance thing?
 

LewieP

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Oct 26, 2017
18,093
It's kinda off topic, but it's absolutely not transphobic to only be attracted to cis folk. Much like it's not cisphobic to only be attracted to trans folk. It's just human sexuality. No reason to not treat all people with respect though.
 

Weiss

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Oct 25, 2017
64,265
It's kinda off topic, but it's absolutely not transphobic to only be attracted to cis folk. Much like it's not cisphobic to only be attracted to trans folk. It's just human sexuality. No reason to not treat all people with respect though.

For starters no one on Earth can be cisphobic, and even if they could there will never be a circumstance where such a belief amounts to even a minor inconvenience.

Second, you sincerely don't think it's transphobic to be attracted to someone until finding out they're trans? Because that's the example Jaffe is using.
 

Mcfrank

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Oct 28, 2017
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Loaded? I prefer to date someone that shares the same comfort foods, the music I like to dance to, religious views, etc. I have dated a black and Indian woman, and well it didn't work out long term because our cultures were too different, now I simply choose not to, does that make me racist?

Yeah it does. You are basically saying all black people like the same music, have the same background, etc. You are putting people different from you in a box rather than treating them as individual human beings.
 

ADee

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
963
Sweden
It's kinda off topic, but it's absolutely not transphobic to only be attracted to cis folk. Much like it's not cisphobic to only be attracted to trans folk. It's just human sexuality. No reason to not treat all people with respect though.

It's like saying if you only want to date men then you have a womanphobia (don't know the technical term) or the opposite.
Feeling attraction to someone no matter who or what he/she is not a choice.

If you're attracted to someone, and then when you find out they're trans, what has changed?

Ask a psychologist or a brain surgeon. It's natural that feelings can change to another person in time.
It's like if someone says/does something bad then you are not attracted to that person any more even if it's the same person.

I myself would not have any idea how I would react since I haven't been in that situation, but I think I would be fine with whatever as long as that person does not have a penis. But that's just me.
 
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Umm... I find them very attractive most of the time? lol, wtf?
That's not culture, that's just you like them aesthetically.
I have an Asian wife, and she goes off on people who say things like, "I've been to Asia, you know, and I really like your culture."

On topic, I can't believe the effort some people like Jaffe put in to vocally and angrily defending the intolerant as though they're oppressed in any way, rather than just, you know, defending actually oppressed or marginalised people, or just anyone who needs help.
 

andymcc

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Oct 25, 2017
26,271
Columbus, OH
Making conclusions about an entire races taste in music based off one person you date brehs.

what do black and indian people eat that is so scary/weird?

like, dude says he likes Asian "culture" (video games and anime, I'm sure) and Asian cuisine is straight up stranger than any others for western palettes.

Are your religious views, comfort foods and dance moves a match though? That's the real question, lol.

he dances to video game music.
 

StealthieOne

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Oct 27, 2017
515
Dfw
User Banned (2 Weeks): Racism.
Didn't see if this was posted here yet.



He starts by saying he wouldn't date a transgender woman simply for the fact she was once a man biologically (no other reason). Then goes to say "If I don't want to date a black woman, I'm a racist? If I don't want to date an Irish woman I'm anti-Irish?" Completely missing the point that yes, if you don't want to date a black woman because she is black, you are racist. And if you don't want to date a transgender woman because she is transgender you are transphobic.


I agree with jaffe, if you dont want to date a particular group doesnt make you racist toward that group...
 

Weiss

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Oct 25, 2017
64,265
The fuck are you talking about? I'm not talking about anything Jaffe said. I'm just saying that it's good that someone calls out this website because it lets me talk about how lacking the moderation is on this platform. But keep projecting lol

Look I'll be honest, I have a hugely difficult time believing that the moderators of a site where you can't actually talk about certain PS Vita games because of their pornographic content featuring child-like characters wouldn't smash the banhammer down on anyone suggesting that it's okay to sexualize kids.
 

Driggonny

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Oct 26, 2017
2,170
It's kinda off topic, but it's absolutely not transphobic to only be attracted to cis folk. Much like it's not cisphobic to only be attracted to trans folk. It's just human sexuality. No reason to not treat all people with respect though.
The problem is that that kind of thinking is too reductive. For instance, a trans woman today could theoretically learn her identity early in life, get hormone blockers and surgery to the point where they would be visually indistinguishable from a cis woman. Being trans doesn't necessitate having a dick or being masculine in any way.

If you care about having kids, okay, you don't want to be with someone who can't have children. Plenty of cis women can't. If you don't like certain genitals, okay,, you don't want to be with someone who has those genitals. But to just say "I'm not attracted to trans people" is far too reductive.
 

Gestault

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Oct 26, 2017
13,356
Jaffe has said so many stupid things which I don't agree with like this, someone with hateful ideas should never get a platform because they might convert people who are lost or just don't have any opinion one way or another. This however, sexual affection is not something a person can control. If someone is turned off because the nose is too big/small or if his penis or too small or her breasts are too big then I do understand them. Same goes with anything, love is one of the only instinct we can't turn off.
If someone respect a person for whoever they are, then that's good enough, no need to turn it into an affection thing.

However I won't go out and say what I don't find attractive out loud, because my mind can change if everything else is so good then that small little thing might become a non issue.

The point you're making about attraction totally has merit, except what Jaffe is choosing to outline is a situation where he presumably is/was attracted to someone. He's spelling out his disgust after finding out something about their background he feels make them less worthwhile or valuable to him. And he's not talking about a specific person or a specific failing, he's talking about a class of people, and publicly projecting how proud he and others should be in his feeling that they're not valid people. And just to be clear, you can openly say "I have some transphobic feelings, because I'm not comfortable with [X or Y]." He's assuming "transphobic" is always an insult, but it's a description. He's demonstrating how deeply he feels that fear/discomfort with his response.
 

Joshbob1985

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Jan 12, 2018
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I am absolutely SHOCKED you ignored other posters and cut paragraphs of counterpoints to cherry pick a couple lines to call unreasonable and then disappear like a fart in the wind. Almost like you weren't looking for a discussion at all.

Shocked I tell you.

I made that last post because it seemed rude to leave the discussion without explaining why to people who had taken the time to respond to me directly, so I apologise to anyone I missed.

Definitely an Era first.

I can just say dumb things and back away with my tail between my legs when I'm unable to defend my own stupidity? This changes everything.

This seems unnecessarily rude.
 

andymcc

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,271
Columbus, OH
I agree with jaffe, if you dont want to date a particular group doesnt make you racist toward that group...

Let me phrase this differently.

"I don't want to date this woman that happens to be black because I don't think our personalities are a match/I do not find her attractive" is fine.

"I don't want to date a woman I otherwise like solely because she is black" is not fine.

do you really not see an issue w/ the second phrasing?

If you think so. I think that letting people say that sexualizing underage is okay is a big issue that deserves to be called out anytime, anywhere.
But if you think that's fine, you do you

Name these posts. We get certain game series discussion flat-out BANNED here because of how they sexualize minors. Shit, I reported a guy a few weeks ago for this shit and I think he was permed.
 

aSqueakyLime

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,434
England
Ask a psychologist or a brain surgeon. It's natural that feelings can change to another person in time.
It's like if someone says/does something bad then you are not attracted to that person any more even if it's the same person.

I myself would not have any idea how I would react since I haven't been in that situation, but I think I would be fine with whatever as long as that person does not have a penis. But that's just me.

But here you're equating saying/doing something bad to coming out as trans..?

That's my whole point. If someone being trans is suddenly a huge problem even though 5 seconds earlier you were really attracted to someone's looks/personality, you should maybe ask yourself why that is.
 
Nov 17, 2017
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This is so wrong, I'm not interested in dating a black woman and some other cultures that I don't have a preference for, doesn't mean I'm racist towards any of those cultures. I have a thing for Asian women, but that comes down to my taste and has nothing to do with anything they do or don't do or me believing they ar e better than anyone else, nor am I Asian.

A preference to date someone is very personal, not wanting to date a transgender is VERY different from hanging out or being friends. Now if you don't want to be friends or deal with this person in any way, or you try to avoid, then I would say you're transphobic, I mean whats next? If I don't want to eat a burger it means I have a food disorder?
Actually, because you declare that all black women are unappealing to you because of their culture you are being racist in your "preferences." On one end, you're roping every black woman into a cultural stereotype and assuming that no black woman could be different enough from that to be attractive to you. On the other, you're calling out that culture as something inherently unattractive.

I won't even go into how unsurprising it is that you just happen to have a "thing" for Asian women as a non-Asian (I won't tell you what my guess of your ethnicity is) but don't you think it's funny how you make it a clear point that your preference for Asian women has nothing to do with anything they do or don't do but with Black woman you won't date them exactly because of what they do or don't do because of their culture. I'm not going to argue with you since it's off topic with the thread and I'm not out to condemn you for your choices either. I only ask you to look inside yourself and think about why you have the preferences you do and be honest with yourself because we are not born with a preference for a specific race.
 

Danzflor

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,710
At this point, any discussion regarding this jackass should be banned on ERA. We have games we don't talk about, time to add Jaffe to that list. Don't give him the attention, don't fuel his stupidity spreading. We already agree that deplataforming works. Let's not fuel his platform discussing him here and giving more things to spew about.
 
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Poodlestrike

Smooth vs. Crunchy
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
13,489
Straight white guy: Hey minorities and LGBTQ, I'm actually pretty left wing and a friend!

Also straight white guy: Hey minorities and LGBTQ, I'm going to defend the rights of neonazis when they call for your extermination!

I feel like this is a playbook or something now
It is, and it's why the "why don't people just enggse him in debate instead of name-calling!" people are idiots.

This shit ain't NEW. It's not unique or novel or interesting. It's just another white guy standing up for the nazis while claiming he shouldn't be critiqued because he's really on the left. It's the 10000th time most people who take this stuff seriously have seen it, and it's not worth taking seriously at this point.

Also, just as an addendum, can straight/white/cis/men type people stop declaring ourselves allies? That's not our call to make. It's the decision of the group you're looking to help. If you say shit and they call you out and you defend yourself by going "but I'm an ally!" you clearly dont know what that IS.
 

Weiss

User requested ban
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Oct 25, 2017
64,265
It is. I'm just using this as a way to make you understand what I'm trying to do here.

You're asking us to believe the moderation of this site is okay with discussing of underaged sexualization when posters have been banned explicitly for doing that. What you're saying doesn't match up to how the mods here actually act.

To be frank I feel that you're lying, or not telling the whole story.
 

plagiarize

Eating crackers
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
27,508
Cape Cod, MA
The point you're making about attraction totally has merit, except what Jaffe is choosing to outline is a situation where he presumably is/was attracted to someone. He's spelling out his disgust after finding out something about their background he feels make them less worthwhile or valuable to him. And he's not talking about a specific person or a specific failing, he's talking about a class of people, and publicly projecting how proud he and others should be in his feeling that they're not valid people. And just to be clear, you can openly say "I have some transphobic feelings, because I'm not comfortable with [X or Y]." He's assuming "transphobic" is always an insult, but it's a description. He's demonstrating how deeply he feels that fear/discomfort with his response.
Precisely.

Changing your mind about wanting to date someone only because you find out they have a Y chromosome, is no different to changing your mind about dating someone you were otherwise interested in because you find out they are mixed race and you didn't know they were.
 
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