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Days Gone Lead: "Don’t Complain if There’s no Sequel if you Didn’t Buy it Full Price", "Metacritic Score Is Everything to Sony"
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A bit of a shitty thing to say when not everybody has the same disposable income but okay. I guess only wealthy fans are true fans.
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Kind of weird how a few people have quoted me to explain he's just saying Sony greenlights sequels of games that are succesful at launch, which seems extremely obvious and something every publisher does. We already knew that much, this isn't news. The shitty thing is the part about "do not complain". The part he knew was a shitty thing to say even before saying it, but he still went ahead and said it anyway.
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Kind of weird how a few people have quoted me to explain he's just saying Sony greenlights sequels of games that are succesful at launch, which seems extremely obvious and something every publisher does. We already knew that much, this isn't news. The shitty thing is the part about "do not complain". The part he knew was a shitty thing to say even before saying it, but he still went ahead and said it anyway.
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I could also say: Just "fucking" develop a better game if you want me to pay full price for it. Same energy.
Metacritic and reviews might play a role in someone's buying decision when it comes to full price games.
Spicy. I can count the number of games I've bought full-price at launch over the past ten years on one hand though. It's just too expensive. More so now that €79.99 is becoming a thing. For me, €40 is already in the territory where I'll think long and hard about whether I need to play it right now, and that's already 50% off by new standards. There's just no way I'll shell that much out for a single game, even for my favorite series. I think it's an easier sell for the mainstream audience that buys one to at most three games a year, rather than those who buy one or more a month. So I imagine how marketable it is to that group likely has much more of a bearing on which games get approved and which games generally do well than whether I pick a game up at launch. Expensive AAA games need lots of sales, and I don't think an enthusiast like myself is part of a large enough subset of the overall audience to make a significant difference.
I'm also happy to support games, but I don't really get on with the reasoning that I need to do it in such and such time frame "or else." I'm not an investor, I'm not on a board making the calls, and there are no guarantees about more content or a sequel either way.
It's always sad to see a beloved game or series fizzle out though. F-Zero has been in the discourse lately and that's a series I feel strongly about. It's unfortunate. But I think a new game that's appropriately scaled could still be viable. That's probably easier to scale down than a game with the sandbox design of Days Gone, however.
I'm also happy to support games, but I don't really get on with the reasoning that I need to do it in such and such time frame "or else." I'm not an investor, I'm not on a board making the calls, and there are no guarantees about more content or a sequel either way.
It's always sad to see a beloved game or series fizzle out though. F-Zero has been in the discourse lately and that's a series I feel strongly about. It's unfortunate. But I think a new game that's appropriately scaled could still be viable. That's probably easier to scale down than a game with the sandbox design of Days Gone, however.
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So how exactly does it matter if people buy it at full price if Metacritic score is "everything to Sony"? Sales didn't seem to be the issue that Days Gone had, so why comment on it?
You can dodge some really crappy games because of metacritic/opencritic.
This ain't it.
Games are costing me €80. You bet I'm going to look at a games Metacritic score before I buy it
Sorry but I don't agree with this. Especially the day one argument. Not everyone can afford buying every game day one nor does every game deserve it.
Especially now when games are getting very expansive.
Especially now when games are getting very expansive.
Look at these entitled companies thinking they should get unlimited access to your wallet despite releasing unfinished products
I'm sorry, but this take isn't it.
Whether we like it or not, Metacritic matters.
It plays a role in people's buying decisions, and can affect people's bonuses too.
Watch some gameplay material and read some reviews. Don´t buy/don`t buy a game just because of its` metascore.
I mean, God of War is a well known IP that people know and love. Even though the gameplay changed, people were still familiar with the IP. That was not the case with Days Gone.
€75-80 I'll only pay for games I know I like. And even then, waiting means bug fixes and a price drop.
€75-80 I'll only pay for games I know I like. And even then, waiting means bug fixes and a price drop.
The launch comment is ridiculous specifically on Playstation, because Sony has created an ecosystem where their own exclusives reliably drop in price by 50% or more within a year of release. Regular, steep discounts on their games and others' are part of the value they bring to their customers (esp. PS+). Blaming the consumers in this case is idiotic. Sony has trained people to wait.
Huh lol Fuck people who look at review scores buying a game? What a weird take.
I did buy it day 1 and yet I still won't get DG2.
But I barely buy day 1 and full price anymore, just can't afford it and it will get worse with the 80€ price tag if that sticks for long.
But I barely buy day 1 and full price anymore, just can't afford it and it will get worse with the 80€ price tag if that sticks for long.
It's a really callous way of putting it that avoids nuance, but there's truth in that launch sales are typically a huge driver for a game's momentum. Still, it reads more like late adopters don't have the right to be crestfallen about the lack of a sequel, which isn't really fair on them. The wording here makes me think Garvin must be sitting on a lot of pent up frustrations about the game and its circumstances.
The Metacritic point, it was expected but unfortunate to have have a sense of vague confirmation - or at least the knowledge of that kind of sentiment among their developers - that Sony are particularly bullish about metrics such as that.
The Metacritic point, it was expected but unfortunate to have have a sense of vague confirmation - or at least the knowledge of that kind of sentiment among their developers - that Sony are particularly bullish about metrics such as that.
Nah, I'll keep waiting for price drops. We have enough zombie games as is. Make something different.
It is basic voting with your wallet. On the other hand, there is a specific devalueing that takes place a lot. Why am I going to put full price in a game if it can be half price by the time I finish it? I don't have that issue with Nintendo.
Sony Bend? They had 6 good to great games on their resume pre-Days Gone.
Didn't it sell really well despite the middling reviews though? how many sales warrants a sequel
I don't necessarily disagree on the premise, but probably not the best example to use considering Days Gone came out buggy af
I just think it's weird that suddenly Days Gone is the game everyone is now clamoring for a sequel when this place couldn't get enough of talking shit about it when it came out.
Weird argument. People who waited were rewarded with a straight up better game after changes and patches and whatnot. So maybe make the game good before releasing it for full price?
Also I feel like we are talking about Days Gone way too much, it's not exactly a milestone of gaming history before or after patches lol
Also I feel like we are talking about Days Gone way too much, it's not exactly a milestone of gaming history before or after patches lol
In the case of Days Gone, the review embargo lifted less than a day before release. Since he used GOW as a comparaison, the review didn't really have that much of an impact on day one sales.
