Thank you for the context. In which case I'm fully on Valencia's side and this whole thing is ridiculous.
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DC Comics against Valencia CF for using a bat logo, club responds "when this club played with a bat in the chest, in the US they were chasing bison."
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Thank you for the context. In which case I'm fully on Valencia's side and this whole thing is ridiculous.
For europeans 1891 and 1919 are just some years appart, so he used the bison thing as in "the country was still in its infancy" joke, not literally americans were killing bisons in 1919.
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Read the whole thread, this symbol is not the new one going to used now and in the future, is just used for this year's anniversary, and the symbol in the tshirts from the team and everything else is still the "old" one. DC still tried to do the same during 2014 when the symbol was the one they have been using forever.
Valencia CF has never in 100 years (or the city in even more) gone after DC for having a shiloutte of a bat, so they should stop trying to do this shit, at least with the team, if they need to defend it so its not deemed abandoned, they should go after any other thing, or do whatever they need to do if there wasnt any other thing in the world that used the bat as a symbol. If Valencia got serious it could bite them in the ass and actually be force to lose it or give credit. Something that probably is never going to happen but best for all is just to drop it.
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I am not a lawyer but it is my understanding trademarks have to be defended or risk being deemed abandoned.
And TBH if I had seen the mark in question, ie the new one, I would have assumed there was a Batman connection. I get why DC is pursuing the defense completely.
And TBH if I had seen the mark in question, ie the new one, I would have assumed there was a Batman connection. I get why DC is pursuing the defense completely.
When I was a kid I actually asked my father if Batman was from Valencia lol
I read the thread, and I understand the situation. I was explaining why DC is doing this, but I wasn't trying to justify their actions. This is likely just their legal department on cruise control, and their isn't much conscious intention behind it (its not like DiDio is up in his office screaming "get those bastards!")
The fact that this is a new and different symbol from previous iterations supports this theory.
Just asking because i dont know how it works. How would they try not to risk their trademark is deemed abandoned if there was nothing to defend against it (lets say nothing in the world uses the shiloutte of a bat as their symbol also), or basically they need to do this everytime against anything that looks like a bat so its not deemed abandoned. Wouldnt just be clear if they updated trademarks without their legal department having to throw lawsuits to things that look similar to seem like they are defending their IP? Is this an american trademark thing only?
You described the best possible universe and I want to live there.
And I disagree. I look at that new logo and immediately think "that looks like Batman." Which is what these legal fights are always about. Is it close enough? That's always gonna be subjective.
I also already said DC shouldn't fight it either way, so I'm not like trying to take their side or anything. Maybe if they hadn't already tried before with the old logo which isn't remotely similar enough imo.
It's also a Bat in general. No one can own the shape & the new logo is different enough from DC's Batman logo.
Not sure where I stand on this, to be honest. I understand the bat has been their logo for a long time, but this new design is pretty similar to the ones DC has been using for a few decades now.
Not only is it a generic bat shape and both aren't in the same field so there isn't about of nuance to compare too.
