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DC TV |OT| Welcome to the New Era
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Youre right. Is this anew person behind the show? I remember them saying the same shit with cicada, it was clear they were supposed to deal with him before hand but it was so dragged out. I want the show to be good and I have some little faith.
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Remember when they said they learned their lesson and Flash was going to be fun and lighthearted again only for them to put Barry in jail and basically introduce Ralph to eventually "kill" by possession and have the bigbad kill a bunch of interesting metas including 2 great likeable ones.
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Yeah them saying that S4 would be fun was a real head scratcher
Thank the lord they've listened. Couldn't even finish last season cause it was so damn incompetent how they keep letting the villain get away for the dumbest reasons.
So I bowed out of the Arrowverse shows a few years ago -- I'd watched Arrow S1-4, Flash S1-3, S1 of Supergirl and Legends, and the Invasion crossover. But it was getting too be too many shows per week to follow, and I wasn't really enjoying them all that much by that point (Arrow had fallen off hard from the heights of S1 and 2, Flash wasn't as good as its first season either, Supergirl was ok, Legends felt mediocre and I was tired of all the shit with Hawks) to keep up.
But all the Crisis hype has gotten me interested again, so I've decided to watch a couple things -- the S2 premiere of Supergirl for the introduction of Superman + the two crossovers I missed, Crisis on Earth-X and Elseworlds -- to get sort of up to speed. And I've been able to follow things generally well; Supergirl obviously picked up exactly where I'd left off, and Earth-X did not feel all that removed from where I'd last seen things in the other shows, with the exception of some lineup changes among the Legends. And both were fun too, reminding me of both things I liked about these shows and things that ultimately pushed me away from (e.g. Oliver and Felicity going on about marriage, or lack thereof, in the middle of a siege from parallel universe Nazis lol).
But now I've started Elseworlds, and things have clearly jumped ahead more a few more steps that are less familiar to me, so wondering if anyone could help bring me up to speed on a couple things...
But all the Crisis hype has gotten me interested again, so I've decided to watch a couple things -- the S2 premiere of Supergirl for the introduction of Superman + the two crossovers I missed, Crisis on Earth-X and Elseworlds -- to get sort of up to speed. And I've been able to follow things generally well; Supergirl obviously picked up exactly where I'd left off, and Earth-X did not feel all that removed from where I'd last seen things in the other shows, with the exception of some lineup changes among the Legends. And both were fun too, reminding me of both things I liked about these shows and things that ultimately pushed me away from (e.g. Oliver and Felicity going on about marriage, or lack thereof, in the middle of a siege from parallel universe Nazis lol).
But now I've started Elseworlds, and things have clearly jumped ahead more a few more steps that are less familiar to me, so wondering if anyone could help bring me up to speed on a couple things...
- Barry has a daughter from the future who, according to the intro, has come back, changed the present and now opened up new threats? She doesn't seem that relevant here as she wasn't in this first episode, but curious about what the larger role here is...
- Last I saw Oliver he and Felicity were getting married in the park. Felicity isn't here now (and I'm assuming they're not together since Oliver mentions waking up in bed with Iris after the swap, but Barry doesn't say the same about Felicity) so I'm wondering what happened there?
- Probably dovetailing with that is the mention of Oliver/Barry being mayor, but also going to jail and Oliver cutting a deal with the FBI to...go to jail? If I have that right. Which I think he was also hiding from Felicity, and she got mad about after learning it...I guess that would be why they're not together now?
- Who is this third guy hanging around with Cisco and Caitlin at Star Labs now? Nobody even said his name.
- What's with Wells now, who is...French? Haitian? Is this another parallel Wells for this season of Flash, or is this a consequence of the reality altering happening here?
It is a new Wells, the other guy at Star Labs is Ralph Dibny(The Elongated Man)
- His daughter has no role in the Elseworlds crossover at all
- After Oliver got out of prison he and Felicity got mad at each other for reasons; just keep watching Elseworlds they explain it more I think.
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- Ralph Dibny, Elongated Man. New addition to the show since season 4.
- Sherloque Wells, a detective from another earth
Every season of Flash gets a new Wells. So it is written, so it shall be.
They need to stop this, I only ever liked two of the Wells they've shown so far (Eobard and Harry).
That's how I remembered it, but when Harry appeared in the Earth-X crossover (which I think overlapped with Flash S4? the first season I'd not seen) I figured maybe they were just reverting back to using him again.
I'll say, one thing I didn't like about the Earth-X crossover -- and was just baffled by really -- is the way Barry corners Thawne at the end and then...lets him go? This man killed his mother, ruined his father's life, ruined Barry's life, killed the real Wells and a ton of other people along the way, and was on the precipice of killing more of Barry's friends (and ending the world on top of that), and Barry's thought after finally pinning this guy down is..."Get out of here." Come on!
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Yeah, Harry got re-used. The Wells's were:
Season 1: Eobarde Thawne disguised as Wells
Season 2: Harry (Earth-2 Physicist Wells)
Season 3: H.R. (Earth-19 P.R. guy Wells)
Season 4: Harry again, Thawne in the crossover
Season 5: Sherloque (Earth-221 French detective Wells) and also Thawne
Plus various cameo versions of Wells in the Season 3 "Wells Auditions" and the Councils of Wells, and appearances by past Wells in time travel episodes.
Those set pics make me so sad that they fired Routh. I'm glad he's being a good sport about it but I wish they didn't just cut him and Courtney loose the way they did. Damn it. :(
I looked, but I don't know what's happening with that, so I'm not spoiled, hooray!ONE BIG SPOILER CRISIS PHOTO
ONE BIG SPOILER CRISIS PHOTO
Tom Welling excitement is running out quickly
it's something that was announced so i wouldn't really call it a spoiler if you're been following this thread
i guess pariah's suit is a spoiler
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Diggle standing with fellow heroes, right where he belongsONE BIG SPOILER CRISIS PHOTO
Wait. Routh was fired? I thought he just decided to leave.
Based on their comments on the subject, Routh and Ford absolutely did not leave by choice.
I quit these shows some two years ago I think, but that coming crossover had me looking back into it.
I think I'm gonna check out Batwoman and see how it goes. And I for sure want to finish up Legends of Tomorrow S3 and S4.
With Arrow finishing up I'm not sure if I wanna binge S6 and S7, but S5 was a really good return to form.
I really would have liked The Flash because of all the timeline shenanigans and I absolutely love the cast, but nope, I'm not getting back into this one, especially since all I've heard is that it remains a very mediocre show that never reaches the highs of S1.
Oh yeah, I think I should get through Crisis on Earth X and Elseworlds first.
I think I'm gonna check out Batwoman and see how it goes. And I for sure want to finish up Legends of Tomorrow S3 and S4.
With Arrow finishing up I'm not sure if I wanna binge S6 and S7, but S5 was a really good return to form.
I really would have liked The Flash because of all the timeline shenanigans and I absolutely love the cast, but nope, I'm not getting back into this one, especially since all I've heard is that it remains a very mediocre show that never reaches the highs of S1.
Oh yeah, I think I should get through Crisis on Earth X and Elseworlds first.
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Crisis in particular was excellent
You should, there all great and enjoyable. Might get frustrating at points but they have a lot of high points with great payoffs.
Man, Legends gets so self aware that everyone should watch the last two seasons if you haven't.