Cavill could be back. His hair line won't be.
To be fair, Cavill doesn't seem like the type to become out of shape.
If they wanted to bring Superman back four years from now, I think he'd still be up for it.
I watched a retrospective and I like how they said Man of Steel is a story of two fathers: Jor-El who wants Clark to move forward uninhibited and help mankind, and Jonathan Kent who is pessimistic and thinks mankind will shun him because he's an alien. The dynamic is that Jon raised him and Clark didn't meet his real father until adulthood. When they meet, Jor-El reaffirms he's now human, not Kryptonian, which is why he says "Krypton had its chance." to Zod. Jor-El is the father Clark should have had and yet all Clark thinks about is Jon.
I left the theatre an hour ago and have already forgotten most of JL
It certainly has its share of enjoyable moments. That cast is great and work well together, and the action, while far less memorable than Snyder's past work, is still fun to watch. The humor also lands more often than not, which is always a nice bonus.
But man, it's kinda just "there". I can't think of a single stand out scene. The pacing is completely rushed , which gives the film a "cartoon pilot" feel rather than the closing chapter of Snyder's trilogy.
Its easy to tell this was ripped from Snyder's hands way before he stepped down, because nothing about it seems like his prior work at all. There's no weight or style to anything here, it's all just kinda bland.
I'll defend BvS and MoS till my dying day. JL, on the other hand, deserves its reception.
WB really needs an entire reset of their upper management team.
Thats basicly your standard Supervillain. Ultron wanted to try the same, Malekith wanted to destroy 7 dimensions, etc.Also, if Zod terraforming the Earth and killing everything on the planet isn't high stakes I don't know what is. Too bad they fucked up JL.
I think it comes down to the villains themselves as well. Ultron and Malekith were...not good, and didn't come off as threatening in really any way. The only time Ultron could hurt any of the Avengers was when he was flying a jet. Zod and his people were pretty much showing that they were unstoppable and humans couldn't really do anything to stop him. Superman was their only hope, and if he died, it was over. Plus, the fact that at no point in MoS did Superman really have the upper-hand against Zod or any of the other Kryptonians.. He was either getting overpowered or barely holding is own.Thats basicly your standard Supervillain. Ultron wanted to try the same, Malekith wanted to destroy 7 dimensions, etc.
Snyder isn't the only person in Hollywood capable of putting together a decent fight scene
Snyder truly is a stand up guy. I often disregard that he dedicated almost a decade to bring these incredible characters to life. When he could have taken the easy road by building upon existing interpretations he came up with his own. I have absolutely no doubt that he loves these characters and did his best so I commend him for that.There's a post on reddit where Snyder aays he hasn't seen JL. He also apologises for not finishing his MoS, BvS trilogy.
There's a post on reddit where Snyder aays he hasn't seen JL. He also apologises for not finishing his MoS, BvS trilogy.
Ay lmao, he salty.There's a post on reddit where Snyder aays he hasn't seen JL. He also apologises for not finishing his MoS, BvS trilogy.
A big problem I have with MoS is there is never any sense of danger for Superman. At worst, he's met with a minor inconvenience and zero bodily harm. The hero should NEVER look as pristine and spotless at the end of the major conflict as he did at the beginning. Hero stories are all about growth and change and Clark becomes completely stale the moment he puts on the costume.I think it comes down to the villains themselves as well. Ultron and Malekith were...not good, and didn't come off as threatening in really any way. The only time Ultron could hurt any of the Avengers was when he was flying a jet. Zod and his people were pretty much showing that they were unstoppable and humans couldn't really do anything to stop him. Superman was their only hope, and if he died, it was over. Plus, the fact that at no point in MoS did Superman really have the upper-hand against Zod or any of the other Kryptonians.. He was either getting overpowered or barely holding is own.
I really do love what Snyder did. He comes off as a guy who really is a fan of the source material. So many little details in each of the movies.Snyder truly is a stand up guy. I often disregard that he dedicated almost a decade to bring these incredible characters to life. When he could have taken the easy road by building upon existing interpretations he came up with his own. I have absolutely no doubt that he loves these characters and did his best so I commend him for that.
If we're going to get panic mode Warner Bros again, they might as well start over. Aquaman and Wonder Woman 2 closes out this universe, Reeves gets to start the new one with his Batman film.
There's a post on reddit where Snyder aays he hasn't seen JL. He also apologises for not finishing his MoS, BvS trilogy.
A $700M gross would probably mean something like a $100M loss :-/I mean isn't that kinda what's already happening? Flash with Ezra can still get his movie. Going forward you really don't have to tie these movies to BvS or JL. Nightwing nor batgirl are tied to any of this.
Like I said. I think WB just wanted to get this movie out of the way. It's going to underperform, but shit if it makes around 700mil you just count your losses and keep moving with solo adventures and let the directors do their jobs. It's not like these movies have any trouble getting talent.
A big problem I have with MoS is there is never any sense of danger for Superman. At worst, he's met with a minor inconvenience and zero bodily harm. The hero should NEVER look as pristine and spotless at the end of the major conflict as he did at the beginning. Hero stories are all about growth and change and Clark becomes completely stale the moment he puts on the costume.
Their fault, shouldn't have made such stupid decisions like cutting the length and bringing Joss Fucking Whedon to finish Snyder's work. They're so different it would have been impossible for the final product to be consistent mA $700M gross would probably mean something like a $100M loss :-/
A big problem I have with MoS is there is never any sense of danger for Superman. At worst, he's met with a minor inconvenience and zero bodily harm. The hero should NEVER look as pristine and spotless at the end of the major conflict as he did at the beginning. Hero stories are all about growth and change and Clark becomes completely stale the moment he puts on the costume.
Whedon has mangled the corpse of this movie. Doubtful we'll ever see the real intended cut.
They just need a clean break. It's tainted goods at this point. You don't change the online narrative unless you tell people flat out it's dead.I mean isn't that kinda what's already happening? Flash with Ezra can still get his movie. Going forward you really don't have to tie these movies to BvS or JL. Nightwing nor batgirl are tied to any of this.
Like I said. I think WB just wanted to get this movie out of the way. It's going to underperform, but shit if it makes around 700mil you just count your losses and keep moving with solo adventures and let the directors do their jobs. It's not like these movies have any trouble getting talent.
A $700M gross would probably mean something like a $100M loss :-/
I think it comes down to the villains themselves as well. Ultron and Malekith were...not good, and didn't come off as threatening in really any way. The only time Ultron could hurt any of the Avengers was when he was flying a jet. Zod and his people were pretty much showing that they were unstoppable and humans couldn't really do anything to stop him. Superman was their only hope, and if he died, it was over. Plus, the fact that at no point in MoS did Superman really have the upper-hand against Zod or any of the other Kryptonians.. He was either getting overpowered or barely holding is own.
Cause you only see 50% of the box office on average. So at $700M, Warner Bros would be seeing $350m....how has this movie cost $800m? Even with a $300m budget plus the same in marketing, that's a "mere" $600m.
BO does not work like that....how has this movie cost $800m? Even with a $300m budget plus the same in marketing, that's a "mere" $600m.
I don't think Steppenwolf is anywhere near as bad as people claim he is. In fact, I thought he was pretty decent and posed a real challenge to the league. I guess I'm in the minority where I thought Luthor was decent. He messed with both Batman and Superman. That's what I'd expect of that character. Ares was weak though. At least on screen. The ideas of what he was doing behind the scenes was interesting I thought.Zod was indeed fine, but once again, that would also be only the case for MoS, not for the DCEU. Luthor was shit, Steppenwolf is supposed to be shit, Ares was shit and I cant remember if Suicide Swuad actually had a a tagonist ...
Cause you only see 50% of the box office on average. So at $700M, Warner Bros would be seeing $350m.
They just need a clean break. It's tainted goods at this point. You don't change the online narrative unless you tell people flat out it's dead.
Their fault, shouldn't have made such stupid decisions like cutting the length and bringing Joss Fucking Whedon to finish Snyder's work. They're so different it would have been impossible for the final product to be consistent m
At some point, putting band aids on gunshot wounds isn't going to work anymore.That won't happen. Again we have a year until Aquaman comes out. The narrative changes when there is good reviews. It makes no sense for them to say this shit is dead when they have a movie next year, WW2 is coming plus a Batman.
Studios don't get all the ticket money, only a fraction of it....how has this movie cost $800m? Even with a $300m budget plus the same in marketing, that's a "mere" $600m.
BvS TC was a complete mess and we got the intended cut for that.Whedon has mangled the corpse of this movie. Doubtful we'll ever see the real intended cut.
plot twist: he was sent in by Kevin Feige as a saboteur
At some point, putting band aids on gunshot wounds isn't going to work anymore.
But they do make WB more money!DC's extended cuts doesn't make the movie better .. Yes I've seen both BvS, SS extended cuts
DC's extended cuts doesn't make the movie better .. Yes I've seen both BvS, SS extended cuts
I'm positive it wasn't. It was a fully developed script with an autor's vision.
Factually false when talking about BvS.DC's extended cuts doesn't make the movie better .. Yes I've seen both BvS, SS extended cuts