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DCEU Era |OT2| Aquaman's Outrageous Adventure!

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Oct 27, 2017
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https://deadline.com/2018/11/spider...face-of-old-hollywood-perceptions-1202485612/



Hmm. The article gets a couple things incorrect, so could be confusing a Zatanna movie movement with renewed movement for JLD, where she was ostensibly the Harley Quinn to that movie's Suicide Squad.
Jesus...Batman and Superman are being treated like DC's ugly step children and no one wants anything to do with them.
How the hell it all end up this way? Truly the worst timeline ever.
 
Nov 15, 2017
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DC has spent the last several decades acting like Batman and Superman are the only characters who matter.

We're long overdue for this current wave of using other DC properties, far as I'm concerned.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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DC has spent the last several decades acting like Batman and Superman are the only characters who matter.

We're long overdue for this current wave of using other DC properties, far as I'm concerned.
Not only that, but most of their movies shows aren't good. At some point, you gotta stop with the infinite do overs.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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DC has spent the last several decades acting like Batman and Superman are the only characters who matter.

We're long overdue for this current wave of using other DC properties, far as I'm concerned.
Marvel only hit its stride when it couldn't use Spider-Man and the X-Men.

DC has a ton of magic to work with, especially if WB wants to target specific demos.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Are there any DC properties that WB isnt working on lol? Zatana would be awesome though. If they do do it, I hope they can do Justice League Dark after, it would be the perfect movie to set that all up if they wanted to.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Surprised there's no thread in the OT for the Zatanna movie news.

Hopefully it spins off into JLD and they bring out Del Toro's script.

The ending scene of the recent animated movie would be a great way to end a live action JLD movie. Batman tagging along for everything was hilarious.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Aquaman being its own thing
WW2 set in 1984
No Superman cameo in Shazam
Flash in limbo
Likely a younger Batman cast
Ledger likely gone

It's not looking good, Snake.
Aquaman, Shazam, SS and WW are still in the same Universe though. That's what I mean, they can be stand alone movies but I hope they don't move away from sharing the universe. So once they all have had their own movies we can start getting proper JL movies.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I mean, they're probably gonna retcon so much shit it might as well be a reboot starting with WW84. Aquaman is standalone so could work either way. Shazam won't have Henry lol
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Aquaman is getting a good push here in the UK.

I've seen the ad played in the half time break, and before and after, every football game i've watched on TV lately.

That final trailer theme is good, its very good. Hope there's a way for it to stick as Aquaman's theme.

I'd love for all of the DC heroes to have their own distinct themes.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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DCEU is in bad shape, we've heard nothing concrete about an over plan and they just keeping jumping on bandwagons.


Batman and Superman are dead in the water
Flash is being delayed for a stupid Harry Potter movie
Suicide Squad which was the biggest win for the universe still hasn't gotten a sequel.
No Superman in Shazam
No Barbra Gordan in Birds of Prey
Nightwing is dead
Wasting money on a lame AU Joker movie

There has been no doubling down on what actually worked in Justice League

As someone who's optimistic I'm general at this point I wish Snyder was back.

At least the arrowverse is worth watching
 
Nov 15, 2017
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DCEU is in bad shape, we've heard nothing concrete about an over plan and they just keeping jumping on bandwagons.


Batman and Superman are dead in the water
Flash is being delayed for a stupid Harry Potter movie
Suicide Squad which was the biggest win for the universe still hasn't gotten a sequel.
No Superman in Shazam
No Barbra Gordan in Birds of Prey
Nightwing is dead
Wasting money on a lame AU Joker movie

There has been no doubling down on what actually worked in Justice League

As someone who's optimistic I'm general at this point I wish Snyder was back.

At least the arrowverse is worth watching
This obsession with needing to know THE PLAN is confusing to me. Why does it matter, ultimately? Especially in a world where everything they do announce gets shit on.

The fact is the critical and audience reception to the current crop of DC films forced WB back to the drawing board. Whatever plan they had is likely dead and all these "announcements" we're getting are the result of Hamada and crew course correcting based on what is working for DC in other media. That said, there are four movies still set in this universe coming out over the next two years, and another five (New Gods, SS2, Supergirl, Batgirl, Blue Beetle) were announced to be in early development this year. Keyword being "early" as in shit ain't greenlit yet. Give it some time.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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DCEU is in bad shape, we've heard nothing concrete about an over plan and they just keeping jumping on bandwagons.


Batman and Superman are dead in the water
Flash is being delayed for a stupid Harry Potter movie
Suicide Squad which was the biggest win for the universe still hasn't gotten a sequel.
No Superman in Shazam
No Barbra Gordan in Birds of Prey
Nightwing is dead
Wasting money on a lame AU Joker movie

There has been no doubling down on what actually worked in Justice League

As someone who's optimistic I'm general at this point I wish Snyder was back.

At least the arrowverse is worth watching
Sorry man, this just ain't right. DCEU isn't in great shape but these are not the reasons why. It doesn't have to be a Marvel type setup. They don't need a huge plan with a story build up.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Some of these projects are not much different than Kevin Feige offhand mentioning plans for Kamala Khan, and I get why there’s a greater confidence in the efficiency of Marvel Studios, but this panicking is odd. For one, a hypothetical Zatanna movie isn’t taking away a nonexistent Superman movie.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I can see where the frustration is coming from when there is like only one dceu movie each year.
This right here is my #1 issue with their plan. I realize it's due to having the setbacks of the past 3 years, but god damn. 13 months between JL and Aquaman. 4 months between Aquaman and Shazam, then 9 months between that and BoP. Starting with BoP, we should be getting 3 a movies a year. They need something for the fall of 2020, which I hope is Batman.
 
Dec 6, 2017
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I’m more frustrated with the lack of anything tangible after Aquaman. WB only has WW and Joker filming and that seems like it’ll be awhile before we see anything. Say what you want about Snyder, but at least he had movies coming down the pipeline and he put in the work to make them happen in a timely manner. Shit we could have had JL2 and Flash if WB hadn’t gotten greedy.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Shit is prolly gonna start filming in 2019. Birds of Prey is starting real soon too. I'm glad for the disarray tbh. Mcu has their well oiled machine and fans of that are satisfied with it.

Why does this have to have the exact same God damn roadmap as that. Its tiring just thinking about it.

Superman is dead in the water it seems like. But in the case of Batman they got a great director and finally have the foresight to give him time to develop it. The frustration on that end is just the rumor mill because nobody knows if Affleck is staying or not

And as for suicide squad 2. Somehow that movie got a huge upgrade with Gunn replacing ayer
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Let Batman and Superman chill until, the latter until WB can figure out how to really do it right.

I'm cool with the current roadmap. WW missing next year is a frustration but in the space of 12 month's we'll have Aquaman, Shazam and Joker (and the Kitchen).

This will be quickly followed by BoP and WW84 in the space of a few months. Hopefully something is in the work for late 2020 (Blue beatle or SS2 I can see fitting in here).

2021 I can see The Batman, Flash (hopefully), one of SS2 or Blue Beatle.

Depending on the reception of BoP and Shazam, we could see Batgirl and Black Adam pushed as a priority.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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I’m more frustrated with the lack of anything tangible after Aquaman. WB only has WW and Joker filming and that seems like it’ll be awhile before we see anything. Say what you want about Snyder, but at least he had movies coming down the pipeline and he put in the work to make them happen in a timely manner. Shit we could have had JL2 and Flash if WB hadn’t gotten greedy.
Birds of Prey films in Jan

How long do you think it takes to film a movie?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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DCEU is in bad shape, we've heard nothing concrete about an over plan and they just keeping jumping on bandwagons.


Batman and Superman are dead in the water
Flash is being delayed for a stupid Harry Potter movie
Suicide Squad which was the biggest win for the universe still hasn't gotten a sequel.
No Superman in Shazam
No Barbra Gordan in Birds of Prey
Nightwing is dead
Wasting money on a lame AU Joker movie

There has been no doubling down on what actually worked in Justice League

As someone who's optimistic I'm general at this point I wish Snyder was back.

At least the arrowverse is worth watching
At least Titans is good and we have Arrowverse.

Couldn't agree more.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Until stuff actually starts filming, I just don't believe it anymore. I swear we've had this conversation two years in a row now. "In January x, y, and z should start filming" and I don't think any of those movies have anything beyond writers/directors attached to this day (Flash, Batman, and SS2).
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Birds of Prey films in Jan

How long do you think it takes to film a movie?
That's the point. WB is giving off the impression that they're hestitating on committing to future tentpole films. Aquaman was given a budget of 160m, which is much less than say Man of Steel (225m). It makes sense given Aquaman's history, but I'm not seeing anything in the pipeline that can even remotely rival Star Wars or The Avengers. And since movies take a long time to make, the lack of announcements causes concerns.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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How so?
It still has directors attached and a lead. It's at least in a state unlike MoS 2...
I mean Flash has had like three directors on it lol

It just doesn't make sense to bring anyone associated with JL back on the screen. Had Aquaman not already been in production, that would have got canned too.
 
Nov 15, 2017
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Maybe JL under performing spooked them. If Aquaman does well, they might take more risks.
It's more than just JL. What aside from Wonder Woman is supposed to give them any confidence?

Man of Steel, despite being liked well enough by a sizable group of people, was the laughing stock of the internet for 3 got damn years.
Batman v Superman was utterly reviled.
Suicide Squad was similarly received despite overperforming at the box office.
Justice League underperformed, reviewed terribly, and killed off basically any goodwill WB had in the comic game.

No studio would look at all that and think the solution is to rush into greenlighting more movies. Hell, Aquaman is probably only getting the media push it is because it tested so well.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Man of Steel was dragged through the coals so damn much that Marvel went out of there way in Age of Ultron to point out multiple times - almost to the point of hilarity - that the Avengers were actually saving civilians instead of just destroying another city while crackin' wise about it.