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DCEU Era |OT2| Joker's Wild
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If Superman didn't die, then where would the impetus for forming the Justice League begin? Superman could practically handle the world (and Steppenwolf as we saw) and save everybody, so why would a team needed to be formed in the first place?
Dan Jurgens, who wrote the original Death of Superman comic story, believed that BvS made the Doomsday fight more meaningful than in his own book.
Hardly any diamond patterns. I'm not expecting to see the classic suit, but give her something that makes her look like a jester/harlequin.
so in the end you have more of an issue with how Clark did it rather than him doing it? I can understand that.
If Superman doesn't die, I think he helps form the league too inspire the planet, and on the idea that one man even a Superman isn't enough to fight future threats. If your looking at why form the league in the first place, than after Clark is brought back why deal with the team anyway.
I would have waited a few films and had a Death and Return of Superman work to introduce new character's and a new Team after the big 7.
How we make it so he *can't* handle the villain of the first JL movie by himself? You know like the fucking comics and cartoons have been doing for years? Also Snyder Supes did a terrible job of controlling collateral damage so he totally could've used some help with Zod.
You guys keep acting like Snyder didn't have a creative choice and the he somehow had to portray the characters the way he did. But he didn't. He didn't have to choose freaking Steppenwolf. He didn't have to make WW someone who rage quit on humanity, and Patty and Gal are walking that shit back. He didn't have to have the shitty Bart Allan with Barry's name Flash, or make Cyborg a human head on a robot body. He didn't have to make Supes the freaking Deus Ex Machina. Supes has been alive and well and still helped found the JL, so I have idea where you got this notion that the JL only makes sense with Supes dead. Those were all genius ideas from capekino director Zack Snyder.
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Still her best costume though. Why can't she wear the suit and just ditch the hat? Or at least include it as one of the costumes she wears.
People didn't really pass it, they just liked the movie so most let it slide. Every movie has missteps and failures, if the movie as a whole good enough, it doesn't matter. Like, the fact that Luke Skywalker remains hidden in SW, considering he has his father's last and lives openly on his uncle's farm makes no goddamn sense. But I like the movie, so *hand wave*. If I didn't, that shit jumps out.
That said, folks did notice.
https://www.cinemablend.com/new/Batman-Has-Killed-Lot-People-Screen-Here-Proof-78987.html
Christopher Nolan dragged Batman (and superhero cinema) into a more serious "real" world
One Batman Returns kill was so controversial that it's brought up in an interview 25 years later.
Even The Daily Beast called Arkham Knight, "The Most Violent Batman Yet"
College Humor made a whole joke video about it.
The truth is the no kill rule is in place to justify one big, big sore thumb in the Batman universe. Without it, why doesn't he just Punisher most of his rogues gallery? This is generally why most superheroes have no kill rules: to preserve super-villains. Something I note is really not a problem with superhero movies because they usually end up killing their villains? I was so happy when
Aquaman didn't kill Orm or Black Manta
Hope Black Adamn and New Gods find space to sneak into here.
Winter 2021 or 2020 should be Aquaman 2.
The team is formed after Superman returns to fight...bigger threats?? That was the setup in place with Darkseid apparently being a part of Justice League but we didn't get that in the theatrical cut so who knows?
And what wouldn't be more inspiring than Superman's return leading to a rise of metahuman superheroes being able to come out in the open? Without Superman inspiring figures like Batman and Wonder Woman to stand united, then what are the chances of Aquaman, Shazam, or any other heroes like Blue Beetle or Flash to be recieved as the heroic figures they are?
I know a lot of people think Superman's death was done too soon, but I disregard that mainly due to the thematic notion of sacrifice, and that Superman himself was willing to sacrifice his life to save the world from a threat that he couldn't handle alone. A threat so imposing and overwhelming...that forming a team to fill the void of Superman would have made complete sense.
A classic Superman coming to grips with his powers in a modern world is a wonderful idea, the issue is how Snyder implemented it. I don't think MOS was a deal breaker for making the transition to the classic Superman but Snyder bungled everything with B vs S. That neck snap only happened because Goyer and Snyder went above and beyond to make it happen, there's a multitude of options he had to get a similar reaction without making Superman a killer or at least someone who doesn't have to snap necks to win. Of course people will take an incident like that to heart with characters they care about, why would they not?
Many super-heroes in the DCU would be gods among us: Martian Manhunter, Dr. Fate, Metamorpho, Wonder Woman, Shazam etc. They can be gods while being relatable, and understandable to others. Wonder Woman did this in all her movie appearances.
Gunn might be suited to a Superman movie with the Super Family (Supergirl, Superboy, Steel), or having him team up with a super-hero or two.
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The lineup for movies look soo damn weird.
Because those days are ova for her. Not hard to understand why she doesn't where the suit she used to wear when she was with her abuser lol
Simpler answer is the Suicide Squad and other alternative HQ outfits are insanely popular. Among comic fans, general audiences, and everyone in between. The very vocal minority advocating "purity," wanting her to wear a black and red onesie 100% of the time aren't gonna override everyone else.
What team up is everyone hoping for in the new suicide squad movie?
I'd like Killer Frost, Deadshot, Katana, Harley and Boomerang.
Though it's wishful thinking for that many characters to carry over from the first movie I guess.
I'd like Kingshark too, he could appear in Aquaman 2 also to add some connectivity to the universe.
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I'd like Killer Frost, Deadshot, Katana, Harley and Boomerang.
Though it's wishful thinking for that many characters to carry over from the first movie I guess.
I'd like Kingshark too, he could appear in Aquaman 2 also to add some connectivity to the universe.
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Deadshot, Harley, Boomerang, Cheshire, Livewire, Weather Wizard, King Shark, Vixen, Angle Man (jobber who dies almost immediately).
Still my preferred team. Swap Cheshire for Katana if you want to maintain more continuity between the two movies.
Basically, I want to maintain and expand the diversity of the cast as I think that was a big part of the first movie's success. I honestly think dumping the entire team from the first would be a mistake; let Boomer, Harley, and Deadshot form the core of the team at least. Flagg and Moon can be around as supporting characters or cameos.
Still my preferred team. Swap Cheshire for Katana if you want to maintain more continuity between the two movies.
Basically, I want to maintain and expand the diversity of the cast as I think that was a big part of the first movie's success. I honestly think dumping the entire team from the first would be a mistake; let Boomer, Harley, and Deadshot form the core of the team at least. Flagg and Moon can be around as supporting characters or cameos.
I don't know what people are complaining about, I think two live-action DC films a year are more than enough. I do think the 2021 DC films could be spaced out a lot better
For me it's cause they have so many characters I want to see on the big screen that having 2 a year is just too low. Especially when they're all going to be getting sequels. I also don't want to wait 4-5 years between sequels. These actors aren't getting any younger and it gets harder for them to stay in superhero shape.
Jesus, I think he's bigger now than he was for Superman o.O
Dat Geralt body.
I wonder what the artstyle of Super-Pets is going to be, hopefully it stands out visually like Spider-Verse and the Lego Movie.
Dude stays bulked rafter than the sort of roller coaster of getting jacked then slim then jacked for the upcoming movie. Keeps building that strength and physique.
Henry on that JUIICEEEE, look at those delts
Geralt is gonna be huge
If the opening shot of the first episode of that series ain't this...
...then they will have failed miserably.
Is he still Superman when Superman doesn't appear in films? I haven't heard the faintest whisper of Superman appearing in any movie being in production in the next few years. There were occasionally rumours of Man of Steel 2 but that never gets made.
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" didn't bother me a ton. It's 'you destroyed the train controls, you decided to stay and fight, you committed to this suicidal plan - save yourself'. Same with burning down the monastery - if you see the place is on fire, have time to get out, but decide to stay and fight - your death is on you.
That's probably on lock, the rock commented on that pic too.
The rocks production company and his ex wife manages cavill, they're also producing Shazam. They have a vested interest in DCEU and Superman, I'm sure something is in the works.
They can easily add a small scene in Shazam with Cavill. I will never give up hope
The rock is the biggest star on the planet and he made bank with rampage for WB already, I'm sure they'll bend to him. Superman, black Adam, Shazam.
A small cameo would really help out the DCEU's image, Shazam is so light hearted it'd be a perfect cameo. Besides, when's the next opportunity for Superman to be on screen? The closest thing that would make sense after Shazam is Wonder Woman.
Doesn't even have to be story related. Literally I would like a scene where Shazam is doing something heroic, looks up, and you see Cav floating and looking at him. He smiles and nods and flies away.
That's on the house WB.
I wanna watch the best, most epic DCAU content right now. What's everyone's best movie or even multi-part JLU episode? Preferably with the JL, not just Superman or Batman
That's on the house WB.
I wanna watch the best, most epic DCAU content right now. What's everyone's best movie or even multi-part JLU episode? Preferably with the JL, not just Superman or Batman
THAT is going to be so damn hype. This film is going to be huge, I feel it.More Shazam toy leaks
A Caveo is so damn easy to add to this movie.
Shazam flying at the end of the movie. Superman flies past, slows down, nods and smiles and zooms off.
A recreation of Shazam/Superman first thunder's ending would have me tear up in the cinema - but this movie seems to be taking a different route with Billy (that run was quite dark in hindsight).
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If Shazam is ever in a JL movie, I hope they go the route where no one (but Batman of course) knows he's a child.
He's bigger than Geralt. Too much bulk for a Witcher. Should be lean as a whippet.
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