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DCEU Era |OT2| Thundercrack!

Erza won

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 30.3%
  • Oh hell yes

    Votes: 23 69.7%

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Feb 2, 2019
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I'm still completely unsold on gunn. None of his work outside the MCU was good to me. And I only enjoyed gotg 1 and thought 2 was really bad.

I'm not sold on any these MCU directors taken off the scrap heap being notable outside of it. That brand is a machine and the director is just a cog in it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,810
I'm still completely unsold on gunn. None of his work outside the MCU was good to me. And I only enjoyed gotg 1 and thought 2 was really bad.

I'm not sold on any these MCU directors taken off the scrap heap being notable outside of it. That brand is a machine and the director is just a cog in it.
Regardless, it'll put butts on seats.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,225
Regardless, it'll put butts on seats.
SS2 or whatever it ends up being called needs a killer (pun not intended) song and music video. The Heathens song was a large part of the marketing for the first film.

I don't think Gunn alone is enough to drive people to see the movie.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,810
SS2 or whatever it ends up being called needs a killer (pun not intended) song and music video. The Heathens song was a large part of the marketing for the first film.

I don't think Gunn alone is enough to drive people to see the movie.
I don't think anyone's ever going to dissect why Suicide Squad did so well. It baffles me.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,532
Is Shazam considered a bomb? It has like half the WW box office numbers of the previous worst-performing DCEU movie (JL). But obviously the budget is quite a bit smaller.

I'm sad about it. I loved the movie.
 

ShadowSwordmaster

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Oct 25, 2017
11,072
Is Shazam considered a bomb? It has like half the WW box office numbers of the previous worst-performing DCEU movie (JL). But obviously the budget is quite a bit smaller.

I'm sad about it. I loved the movie.
I have an ongoing thesis that the reason why that DC's movies tend to perform poorly is that a) the history of "DCU" movies and b) they are not Marvel.
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,389
I haven't missed a comic book movie at the theater since 2012, and I love the comic book Shazam is based on (I was mad hyped around the first trailer coming out), but I haven't checked it out yet. I don't know what's exactly keeping me away. Somehow it feels small-scale (yet I watched Ant-Man and the Wasp, and I like small-scale really), and I've kind of had my fill of Billy and Freddy in all those clips and trailers already. I think it has to do with Zachary Levi honestly. I love him, his timing and way of portraying humor, but it also kind of feels like it's the same, same, same). It still got three more days here at the theater chains but it's at the smallest cinemas with only 60 seats so that's keeping me away as well. And this month I wanna check out Endgame one more time, and then Detective Pikachu (but this one doesn't even get the biggest screen in the country cause of Endgame), John Wick 3, Aladdin and Godzilla.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,532
I haven't missed a comic book movie at the theater since 2012, and I love the comic book Shazam is based on (I was mad hyped around the first trailer coming out), but I haven't checked it out yet. I don't know what's exactly keeping me away. Somehow it feels small-scale (yet I watched Ant-Man and the Wasp, and I like small-scale really), and I've kind of had my fill of Billy and Freddy in all those clips and trailers already. I think it has to do with Zachary Levi honestly. I love him, his timing and way of portraying humor, but it also kind of feels like it's the same, same, same). It still got three more days here at the theater chains but it's at the smallest cinemas with only 60 seats so that's keeping me away as well. And this month I wanna check out Endgame one more time, and then Detective Pikachu (but this one doesn't even get the biggest screen in the country cause of Endgame), John Wick 3, Aladdin and Godzilla.
I just feel like the trailers didn't sell the movie well at all. I really think you'd love it if you watched it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,065
Is Shazam considered a bomb? It has like half the WW box office numbers of the previous worst-performing DCEU movie (JL). But obviously the budget is quite a bit smaller.

I'm sad about it. I loved the movie.
Shazam will turn a profit once it comes out on home media. It's box office run falls somewhere between fine and slightly underwhelming.
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,389
Just finished Shazam. It was alright. Liked Wonder Woman, Aquaman and BvS more. Maybe even MoS more. I actually didn't have that much fun, and it's not something I want to immediately rewatch. But it was a fine little movie for what it was.

I did like individual things in it:

- Like how Billy lured out Envy at the end. That was more fun than a usual battle would be.
- How they used the Batarang to figure out he could be hurt.
- How Billy gave his mom the compass cause she needed guidance more. This was a dark subplot and I don't think I like how she left him to the police cause of her own reasons.
- this movie was dark and kinda draining. Billy figuring out his powers and Levi's enthusiasm wasn't that much fun.
- I really like how they involve the citizens in these DC films. They were always well implemented here.
- disappointed that Mary got almost no action. Darla's cool factor made up for this.
- Supes cameo felt cheap.
- I like the creature designs in the DCEU and the Seven Sins too. I liked the scene when Dr Sivana visits his father's board meeting.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Not directly. I just told them that Shazam was amazing and they need to see it and all they ever said when I would tell them is, "Ehhh, I don't know."
I said before that it looked like a family comedy in the trailers.

That's a different box office spread.

I have a feeling that Godzilla will bomb too.
It won't bomb, but more monsters isn't going to draw in any more in terms of the general audience. Right in line with Kong and Godzilla 2014. $550 million.
 
Nov 21, 2017
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That’s a good thing
Not necessarily. Marvel have peaked with Endgame for a while but are already taking the initiative with announcing phase 4 projects. Now is the time for Warners to start gearing up in response.

Shazam should have done a lot better and deserved to. They can’t rely on a series of unconnected films if they want to start challenging Disney. With the underperformance of brands like Harry Potter and Pokemon, WB need to double down on DC.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,763
Not necessarily. Marvel have peaked with Endgame for a while but are already taking the initiative with announcing phase 4 projects. Now is the time for Warners to start gearing up in response.

Shazam should have done a lot better and deserved to. They can’t rely on a series of unconnected films if they want to start challenging Disney. With the underperformance of brands like Harry Potter and Pokemon, WB need to double down on DC.
Blame the audience for Shazam’s performance then. And they should worry about making their own money and not challenge Marvel.
 
Nov 21, 2017
815
Blame the audience for Shazam’s performance then. And they should worry about making their own money and not challenge Marvel.
I don’t think they can when Disney projects dominate most of the key annual dates.

When you consider that most families go to the cinema around 5-6 times a year Disney is eating everyone’s lunch with (normally) 1x Star Wars, 3x Marvel, 1x Live Action, 1x Pixar every year.

WB has been smarter in its approach with DC in recent years and I genuinely looking forward to their projects but the performance of Shazam is a big warning light IMO. They’ve gone cheap and smart this year but they won’t clear up. They need to create some energy.
 
Nov 21, 2017
815
This is kind of ridiculous considering the amount of success Warners had as a whole last year. If anything, that would/should show that the company can work around Disney.
Fantastic Beasts was a disappointment, so was Shazam, Lego movie 2 and Pokemon. Godzilla not looking too hot. All films which would normally do big business for WB. All they got left this year is IT2 and Joker both of which are one offs.

Next couple years are strong I grant you but the fact that so many their franchises are underperforming should be of concern.
 
Nov 13, 2017
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Fantastic Beasts was a disappointment, so was Shazam, Lego movie 2 and Pokemon. Godzilla not looking too hot. All films which would normally do big business for WB. All they got left this year is IT2 and Joker both of which are one offs.

Next couple years are strong I grant you but the fact that so many their franchises are underperforming should be of concern.
Ticket prices need to come down or something. I truly believe that most people are not willing to watch more than one movie a month, and 9/10 times it's going to be a Disney movie.
 
Nov 21, 2017
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Ticket prices need to come down or something. I truly believe that most people are not willing to watch more than one movie a month, and 9/10 times it's going to be a Disney movie.
Yeah that’s entirely my point. Disney have become the go to family theatre experience and they have enough strong franchises to starve out competition so that a lot of other films are underperforming. Hence my original point that WB needs to step up its game with DC.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Not necessarily. Marvel have peaked with Endgame for a while but are already taking the initiative with announcing phase 4 projects. Now is the time for Warners to start gearing up in response.

Shazam should have done a lot better and deserved to. They can’t rely on a series of unconnected films if they want to start challenging Disney. With the underperformance of brands like Harry Potter and Pokemon, WB need to double down on DC.
WB announced like 50 DC movies. You want them to make even more announcements? Besides WB has like a movie coming out for each month until 2022. Pokemon is already getting a sequel, Godzilla is this month, It comes out september, joker october.