DCEU Era |OT2| Thundercrack!

Erza won

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 28.2%
  • Oh hell yes

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okdakor

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Oct 26, 2017
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Same joke as studios announcing trilogies before knowing the audience reaction... Just try do make a good movie first, and adjust your sequel ideas after
 

BlackGoku03

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Oct 25, 2017
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It was relevant with what Snyder wanted to do, the 5 movies storyline. But it wasn't a good starting point to create your own cinematic universe and do 40+ movies.
True but nobody at the time knew it was only planned to be 5 movies. We knew BvS was planned to be a two-parter (they announced it at SDCC I think). We knew it would be a few movies before Superman became Superman, but we're finding out that most people did not want to wait for that.
 

Shingi_70

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Oct 25, 2017
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Also that's an issue with WB not having communication with their directors or any actual plan.

I'll say it comparing WB's Director first way of filmmaking for the DCEU compared to the MCU, i'll take the mcu route anyday.
 

Firemind

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Oct 25, 2017
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Same joke as studios announcing trilogies before knowing the audience reaction... Just try do make a good movie first, and adjust your sequel ideas after
Disney announced a Star Wars sequel trilogy before the first movie came out.

Being reactionary and thinking short term is exactly what you shouldn't be doing.
 

J_Viper

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Oct 25, 2017
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Snyder should have been given The Dark Knight Returns instead of BvS, then someone else could have handled Superman: Dawn of Justice, then follow that up with WW and Justice League
 

okdakor

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Disney announced a Star Wars sequel trilogy before the first movie came out.

Being reactionary and thinking short term is exactly what you shouldn't be doing.
DC isn't Star Wars, and even for them I'm not sure that it's such a good idea.
It's not really thinking short term, it's more about being able to adapt your project, not setting everything in stone 6 years in advance... Being able to course correct.
 

Shingi_70

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Oct 25, 2017
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DC isn't Star Wars, and even for them I'm not sure that it's such a good idea.
It's not really thinking short term, it's more about being able to adapt your project, not setting everything in stone 6 years in advance... Being able to course correct.
Yep, Look at Marvel Studios they had a plan but took it on a movie to movie basis and plans changed heavily in phase 1. At one point there was gonna be Iron Man v Hulk, and than the line up for the Avengers changed.
 

Pandora012

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Oct 25, 2017
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Also that's an issue with WB not having communication with their directors or any actual plan.

I'll say it comparing WB's Director first way of filmmaking for the DCEU compared to the MCU, i'll take the mcu route anyday.
Ehh I'd go with WB way. With the mcu, most of the movies have become forgettable. The main issue is that with WB the quality fluxes to the extreme. Which I'll even take that, if that means the movies won't feel the same and start to blur. I'm hoping with this new trend the quality is maintained while not being cookie cutter
 

Ashhong

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Oct 26, 2017
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I have to agree. Some course correction is okay. Everyone does it. But WB oversteered.
And yet, they kept Snyder on for TWO more movies. Mind boggling. They thought hey, let's let the director do the work and then we, the non-creative executives, can fix it ourselves later! They are, or were, treating movies like baking instead of straight cooking. Throw in the ingredients that research shows will produce a hit and wait for the cake to appear. When really it's all about having the flavors mesh together and cooking with your gut, being able to change things to suit your tastes.
 

Pandora012

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Oct 25, 2017
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And yet, they kept Snyder on for TWO more movies. Mind boggling. They thought hey, let's let the director do the work and then we, the non-creative executives, can fix it ourselves later! They are, or were, treating movies like baking instead of straight cooking. Throw in the ingredients that research shows will produce a hit and wait for the cake to appear. When really it's all about having the flavors mesh together and cooking with your gut, being able to change things to suit your tastes.
Well man of steel wasn't a bad movie. And by the time bvs came out, i believe justice league was already in production as it only came out a year later. Not much they could have done by then.
 

Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
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They didn't move too quickly with Snyder. They delayed BvS almost a whole year to find a better release window after a slight production delay. The movie was more or less done for months, but they sat on it.
I think he means going from BvS releasing to starting JL production with in like 2 weeks.
 

Pandora012

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think he means going from BvS releasing to starting JL production with in like 2 weeks.
Still doesn't make what they said make sense. The movie was done for a good while. I can understand if they started filming JL right after BvS finished filming, but they didn't. The main issue with Snyder is what he wanted and what WB wanted were two different things.
 

Shingi_70

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Oct 25, 2017
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Still doesn't make what they said make sense. The movie was done for a good while. I can understand if they started filming JL right after BvS finished filming, but they didn't. The main issue with Snyder is what he wanted and what WB wanted were two different things.
That’s the big issue, once production on BvS started the decision to either have Snyder do his epic and than start a cinematic universe, or can him and use Man of Steel as a jumping on point for a cinematic universe. They tried to have heir cake and eat it too so we got this weird mishmash
 

Donald Draper

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Feb 2, 2019
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I wonder if public perception would have been different if people knew Snyder's film were supposed to have a beginning and an end and not just be like the MCU..a lot of complaints like starting their universe with an old batman are no longer applicable.
 

Donald Draper

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Though not I think about it, the Joker film is an elseworlds and I already see complaints about it not being like the comics around the web so probably not.
 

Shingi_70

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I wonder if public perception would have been different if people knew Snyder's film were supposed to have a beginning and an end and not just be like the MCU..a lot of complaints like starting their universe with an old batman are no longer applicable.
That got muddled once the spin offs were being talked about and suicide squad came out
 

Rvaan

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That got muddled once the spin offs were being talked about and suicide squad came out
It was weird at the time. WB announces their plans and timeline for building up a universe. But then they decide to add in a Batman movie and another MoS, neither of which will happen as it was originally planned. And then SS happens and they try to spinoff Harley and Deadshot. And then later news comes out about like 5 other random spinoffs. It really felt like WB was throwing shit at the wall and seeing what stuck.
 

Donald Draper

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Feb 2, 2019
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It was weird at the time. WB announces their plans and timeline for building up a universe. But then they decide to add in a Batman movie and another MoS, neither of which will happen as it was originally planned. And then SS happens and they try to spinoff Harley and Deadshot. And then later news comes out about like 5 other random spinoffs. It really felt like WB was throwing shit at the wall and seeing what stuck.
That's what happens when its just a bunch of suits and one hand doesn't know what the other is doing. Snyder had one plan and WB suits had another.

I'm hoping Hamada will rectify those issues.
 

Pandora012

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't even mind all the spin offs. I like seeing all the other justice league members. I just want a freaking bat family movie. Is that so much to ask for?
 

Rvaan

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I believe Hamada have a plan, I just wish we would hear more about it. It’s been pretty quiet since he took over.
I bet that WB is hesitant to show a timeline again after what happened last time and because things can always change.

I don't even mind all the spin offs. I like seeing all the other justice league members. I just want a freaking bat family movie. Is that so much to ask for?
Apparently yes. Bruce is not allowed to interact with more than one of his children at a time in film.
 

Donald Draper

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Feb 2, 2019
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I dont mind not having a timeline. Even marvel said they wouldn't be doing it again like they did before.

We know roughly what movies are coming next that's good enough.
 

J_Viper

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah we more or less know what the lineup is for the next two years, maybe even 2022 if we think Black Adam will finally happen, or if Shazam 2: The Dark World is a guarantee
 

Ross62

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Oct 27, 2017
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Grace Randolph really needs to be purge from media groups tho. I hope this makes WB finally abandon her.
 

NinjaDBL

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Oct 27, 2017
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Grace thinks FFH is an underperformance because no one was talking to her about it. She also repeatedly keeps bringing up Shazam in her conversations to remind everyone it bombed.

She’s a laughing stock.