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Erza won

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 26.2%
  • Oh hell yes

    Votes: 45 73.8%

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J_Viper

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Oct 25, 2017
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Flash is not hitting 2020 no matter what happens.

I won't miss Ezra though. I'm sure he's very talented in other projects, and I blame Whedon for his terrible Flash in JL, but I would prefer someone a bit older.
 

Boxy Brown

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Oct 27, 2017
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Exactly, as I have stated previously it's clear that WB want him gone from the role. But this just makes it look like a circus. WB should just be flank with Ezra and tell him that he is no longer in their plans for the Flash, as unfortunate as that may be, and just move on.
They're fine with Ezra in the role but if he wants to go in a different direction than what they're already want then he can be recast. That's the general mindset.

Ezra is forcing HIMSELF out the role with this risky play instead of just going with what was already established. This movie is probably gonna be in production later this year with or without him.
Flash is not hitting 2020 no matter what happens.

I won't miss Ezra though. I'm sure he's very talented in other projects, and I blame Whedon for his terrible Flash in JL, but I would prefer someone a bit older.
Uh. It was never hitting 2020. The speculated date was in 2021 with a production start of later this year.
 

Dierce

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Oct 27, 2017
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They're fine with Ezra in the role but if he wants to go in a different direction than what they're already want then he can be recast. That's the general mindset.

Ezra is forcing HIMSELF out the role with this risky play instead of just going with what was already established. This movie is probably gonna be in production later this year with or without him.
Hopefully so, this movie has had too many delays already. I just want to finally see this movie get made.
 

SArcher

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Oct 26, 2017
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I wish we could have at least gotten Snyder's JL now that they're recasting everyone except WW and Aquaman. Instead the original vision for the franchise ended with a wet fart (a butchered JL).
 

J_Viper

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Oct 25, 2017
25,700
That first Doom Patrol episode was rad. Super bizarre, and it could have easily been a disaster with lesser talent involved, but somehow they made this thing work so well. Definitely need to subscribe now.

Also caught Young Justice: Outsiders. Dug the first episode a bit, even if the animation is a bit stiff, the voice cast makes up for it (even if hearing Troy Baker and Nolan North can be distracting lol)

Could I continue right through Outsiders, or should I watch the first two seasons?
 

Ashhong

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Oct 26, 2017
16,572
Ezra seems like a cool, funny guy. I wonder how bad the script/vision is that he doesn't want to deal with it
 

Blader

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Oct 27, 2017
26,595
Miller writing Flash himself is weird as hell...but a Morrison-penned Flash movie would be baller... don't know how to react to this news :lol
 

Tizoc

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Oct 25, 2017
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That first Doom Patrol episode was rad. Super bizarre, and it could have easily been a disaster with lesser talent involved, but somehow they made this thing work so well. Definitely need to subscribe now.

Also caught Young Justice: Outsiders. Dug the first episode a bit, even if the animation is a bit stiff, the voice cast makes up for it (even if hearing Troy Baker and Nolan North can be distracting lol)

Could I continue right through Outsiders, or should I watch the first two seasons?
Watch the fiest 2 seasons since outaiders is a continuation.
 

ConHaki66

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Oct 27, 2017
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Darker has a spectrum as well, The flash series looks 'darker' than Shazam, WW is darker than both. If you are going to be throwing the kitchen sink having a guy like Morrison is one hell of a piece to have as support
 
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Ashhong

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Oct 26, 2017
16,572
What exactly is "continuity"? People are making it sound like some big issue. It'll be new characters and a new story. There is nothing to continue. Big deal! Just have the same Waller and Margot. That's all you need
 

BadAss2961

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yikes if they recast anyone (Deadshot) and act like the events of the first movie never happened. People are right to call that a mess. Maybe you do this for a top tier director, but not a mediocre one like Gunn.

You forget that Suicide Squad was actually a hit movie.
 

Ichthyosaurus

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Dec 26, 2018
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What exactly is "continuity"? People are making it sound like some big issue. It'll be new characters and a new story. There is nothing to continue. Big deal! Just have the same Waller and Margot. That's all you need

Events from the previous film are recognised as being in the same story. Hard reboot is everything is thrown out, start over - soft reboot is things happened but not like they originally did but we're going to ignore the bad stuff and keep the good stuff. Justice League did the latter.
 

Ashhong

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Oct 26, 2017
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Events from the previous film are recognised as being in the same story. Hard reboot is everything is thrown out, start over - soft reboot is things happened but not like they originally did but we're going to ignore the bad stuff and keep the good stuff. Justice League did the latter.
What I mean is nothing from the first movie has to be in the sequel, hard reboot or not. Its entirely self contained if they have new characters. I don't think they will have much in the plot to explicitly "reboot" and contradict the first movie. I think they just won't address it
 

VanWinkle

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yikes if they recast anyone (Deadshot) and act like the events of the first movie never happened. People are right to call that a mess. Maybe you do this for a top tier director, but not a mediocre one like Gunn.

You forget that Suicide Squad was actually a hit movie.
Lol, you can't talk business and call Gunn a mediocre director just because you don't particularly like his films.
 

BadAss2961

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Oct 25, 2017
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Lol, you can't talk business and call Gunn a mediocre director just because you don't particularly like his films.
When I say top tier, I mean someone special. Like when we'd consider a George Miller or someone coming on board.

Gunn's got nothing but low budget busts to his name outside the Marvel hit machine. In the grand scheme of filmmaking, he's objectively mediocre at best.
 

Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
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But we need to preserve the continuity of the Skawd! You know the team that exist to be disavowed and have members replaced whenever the need should arise.
 

admataY

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Oct 25, 2017
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Squad2 as a reboot seems kind of redundant , just have Waller pick up diffrent group of inmates for a new mission unrelated to the last, the no need for direct continuation of the first is baked into the concept .
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yikes if they recast anyone (Deadshot) and act like the events of the first movie never happened. People are right to call that a mess. Maybe you do this for a top tier director, but not a mediocre one like Gunn.

You forget that Suicide Squad was actually a hit movie.

Transformers were also "hit movies", and they were reviewed about as well as Suicide Squad was.
 

Ashhong

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Oct 26, 2017
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These producers need to stop talking. I guarantee they are just using the wrong words and causing misunderstandings.
 

Smokey_Run

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Oct 25, 2017
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Should've just restarted, but nope, they were hell bent on keeping two actors. So now it's going to be a mess as they navigate recasting, but trying to keep some continuity, but not really.
 

BadAss2961

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VanWinkle

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When I say top tier, I mean someone special. Like when we'd consider a George Miller or someone coming on board.

Gunn's got nothing but low budget busts to his name outside the Marvel hit machine. In the grand scheme of filmmaking, he's objectively mediocre at best.
So outside of the two movies that did extremely well commercially and critically, are the last two movies he has done, and are by far the most like the movie he is making for DC when compared to his earlier stuff.
 

BadAss2961

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So outside of the two movies that did extremely well commercially and critically, are the last two movies he has done, and are by far the most like the movie he is making for DC when compared to his earlier stuff.
What's the last Marvel movie that didn't do well commercially and critically? Incredible Hulk?

Having a successful Marvel movie doesn't really prove anything. Circumstances aside, Whedon godfatherered the MCU machine and nearly destroyed the DCEU.
 

Ichthyosaurus

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Dec 26, 2018
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Circumstances aside, Whedon godfatherered the MCU machine and nearly destroyed the DCEU.

Nothing Whedon could have done would have saved Justice League, he was there to make something salvageable at the last minute, and I think he did all he could. It's not like Whedon was there to shepherd the movie from day one, unlike with the Avengers movies.

What I mean is nothing from the first movie has to be in the sequel, hard reboot or not. Its entirely self contained if they have new characters. I don't think they will have much in the plot to explicitly "reboot" and contradict the first movie. I think they just won't address it

Yeah. That's what I thought they needed to do, too.
 

Pein

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nothing Whedon could have done would have saved Justice League, he was there to make something salvageable at the last minute, and I think he did all he could. It's not like Whedon was there to shepherd the movie from day one, unlike with the Avengers movies.
Whedon and his quips, music choices, cg mustache and Russian family sure didn't help. Taking out darkseid and having the parademons turn on steppenwolf was terrible, I'd like a fabled Snyder cut just to see how far Snyder would've pushed it.

Kal on the ship alone stirs emotion better than the crap whedon is responsible for, like that awful begin with those kids.

Whedon is a hack and even when he does something day one it can be total garbage aka ultron.
 

Ichthyosaurus

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Whedon and his quips, music choices, cg mustache and Russian family sure didn't help.

Whedon is a hack and even when he does something day one it can be total garbage aka ultron.

I disagree. He improved many scenes, like giving Superman dialogue. Had Snyder been at the helm he'd have been mute again because reasons.

But this wasn't Ultron, he stepped in at the last minute. Ultron was vastly better than Justice League, and that was a let down.
 
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