Ehhh I don't know, I don't think Aquabro is how most people envisioned Aquaman but that worked out fine lol.Seems obvious now that WB wants to follow the Marvel formula and make all their first solo movies safe and familiar affairs to get audiences on board. Honestly, it's kind of what they should've done anyway to start this whole thing off. After the audience settles in, that's when you can subvert their expectations and go BvS on them. People want to see the characters on screen as they've pictured them in their minds growing up. Superman the big blue boy scout, Flash the fun one, Batman the broody one that doesn't kill, Wonder Woman the compassionate one, etc. After you give them those movies you can go anywhere because the audience will trust you and your vision (as long as those solo movies perform like WW and Aquaman did).
EDIT - I should clarify that this should've been applied only if they felt like they wanted to really give the big extended universe 10+ year 20+ movie in mind. MoS, BvS, JL1 and 2 self contained would've been fine as is if they hadn't interfered.
Aquaman is a weird case. The average person either had no real idea of what he should be, or got most of their knowledge from parodies and jokes that made fun of him. They obviously weren't going to treat the character like a joke, but they couldn't exactly make him the "Heavy is the head" sadsack he often is in the comic. Seems like, whether they talked about it or not, both Synder and Wan agreed that Arthur would be best suited to being a swashbuckling meathead. Kind of like a PG13 version of his Brave and the Bold self, only played a little straighter.Ehhh I don't know, I don't think Aquabro is how most people envisioned Aquaman but that worked out fine lol.
They were from McQ talking about how WB rejected his Superman and GL pitches.
God I hope Joker is great.
Feels like there's already a section of people wanting it to be a bad film even with the great trailer.
If Marvel so much why don't you go marry them?The one two punch of endgame and Far From Home really shows how much Snyder and WB screwed up rushing to get Avengers money. They tried to take short cuts to make the DCEU feel like it has more history than it actually does.
It's interesting to compare the reaction of BvS/Justice League when it pertainss to Superman's death versus that of Tony Starks.
Nothing else remotely compares.
You will always be sad if you can only be happy if the size of your yard is bigger or equal than your neighbor. Peeps too insecure.Nothing else remotely compares.
I don't think it's odd for a DC fan to look and want the DCEU to have success too.
Nothing else remotely compares.
I don't think it's odd for a DC fan to look and want the DCEU to have success too.
Nothing to be insecure about. WB stays making weird choices. It's gotten better, but all the stuff they're doing now should have been done from the start.You will always be sad if you can only be happy if the size of your yard is bigger or equal than your neighbor. Peeps too insecure.
I agree as well. Things like this need more cohesion.I think he was joking..
But I do agree with Shinji. DC should have cut Snyder out immediately after BvS. All DC needed to do was follow the old DCAU formula as they have everything down then but they didn't. Now they cant even get a Flash movie off the ground.
Maybe it's just me but I thought his death was so predictable that I felt absolutely nothing when Tony died. Felt the same about superman.The one two punch of endgame and Far From Home really shows how much Snyder and WB screwed up rushing to get Avengers money. They tried to take short cuts to make the DCEU feel like it has more history than it actually does.
It's interesting to compare the reaction of BvS/Justice League when it pertainss to Superman's death versus that of Tony Starks.
And just to be clear, I don't want the type of movies the MCU puts out. Just the success. More people watching equals more sequels and chances taken on flicks like BoP.Though for me in general MCU just doesn't do it. There's films I really like in the MCU but as a whole I dunno. It all feels so, mechanical?
It gives me the same feeling that a lot of modern AAA gaming does. Just all so samey and feeling like it was made by committee and all the edges grounded off for the purpose of making easily digestible product.
But, I accept I'm an outlier in that regard. The box office dont lie. Seems like these days that's the only thing people want. Easily digestible safe feel good escapism to distract them from their real lives. Disney is tailor made for this age. Sadly they are by far my least favorite studio in the movie industry. I just cant get with their output. It all just feels so corporate.
The idea of DC just being Marvel light is just blah. But I trust Hamada to at least throw in some curveballs.
Maybe it's just me but I thought his death was so predictable that I felt absolutely nothing when Tony died. Felt the same about superman.
Though for me in general MCU just doesn't do it. There's films I really like in the MCU but as a whole I dunno. It all feels so, mechanical?
It gives me the same feeling that a lot of modern AAA gaming does. Just all so samey and feeling like it was made by committee and all the edges grounded off for the purpose of making easily digestible product.
But, I accept I'm an outlier in that regard. The box office dont lie. Seems like these days that's the only thing people want. Easily digestible safe feel good escapism to distract them from their real lives. Disney is tailor made for this age. Sadly they are by far my least favorite studio in the movie industry. I just cant get with their output. It all just feels so corporate.
The idea of DC just being Marvel light is just blah. But I trust Hamada to at least throw in some curveballs.
That's not how filmmaking works.All DC needed to do was follow the old DCAU formula as they have everything down then but they didn't. Now they cant even get a Flash movie off the ground.
So you somehow never saw FFH trailers or commercials on TV? That sucks.Thanks for the Endgame spoilers folks. Very considerate.
My fault I suppose for frequenting a Marvel spoilers thread. Oh wait...
No I didn't but fair enough if it's officially been used in advertising.So you somehow never saw FFH trailers or commercials on TV? That sucks.
Yeah it has.No I didn't but fair enough if it's officially been used in advertising.
Eh, dont know if I agree with that last sentence. Seemed like everybody's favorite scene from Justice League was them fighting superman with him seeing flash in slow mo. Stuff Whedon added like flash falling on wonder womans boobs, cavill cgi mouth and the opening batman scene got trashed. Affleck seemed completely disinterested in all his reshoot scenes.It was telegraphed but your in the minority when it comes to the reaction. My girlfriend is casual fan (has seen most of the movies , a big fan but doesn't talk about them on the internet or keep up with casting or trailers until they show up in theatres or YouTube). Hell shes talks about how Tony is her least favorite Avenger but his arc in the past 4 films had her bawling at the end of endgame and during moments of Far From home.
DC has always been the lighter universe overall despite having books and stories that have been dark or violent. The whole DC is so dark and edgy only became a thing in recent years thanks in part to Zack Snyder.
That thinking is why BvS was a mess but why Aquaman, Suicide Squad, and overall the Arrowverse is so well liked. Even when it comes to justice league it's telling the parts most people liked came from the reshoots.
Screenplays for direct-to-DVD films aren't at all comparable to tentpole films.
Suicide Squad has a lower audience score than BvS.That thinking is why BvS was a mess but why Aquaman, Suicide Squad, and overall the Arrowverse is so well liked. Even when it comes to justice league it's telling the parts most people liked came from the reshoots.
I see we've hit the regularly scheduled "woulda, shoulda, coulda" part of the thread.
It's been a while.
Lol it won't ever stop until public perception changes which won't stop until WB gets all their big characters in working order.I see we've hit the regularly scheduled "woulda, shoulda, coulda" part of the thread.
It's been a while.
I haven't because the trailer said to not watch if you haven't seen Endgame. Some people such as myself wait for Blu-ray release.So you somehow never saw FFH trailers or commercials on TV? That sucks.
I hope we don't stay here for long. It gets tiresomeI see we've hit the regularly scheduled "woulda, shoulda, coulda" part of the thread.
It's been a while.
We need some new news or a trailer or something. The DCEU drip feed doesn't leave us much to chew, so the thread always comes back to wallowing.
BOP needs a trailer soon.I mean I am still hoping just cause WB doesn't have a panel it doesn't mean we won't get something. BoP comes out before WW89 and Patty said they won't be in full swing till Dec so might as well drop a teaser at least.