Dead or Alive 6 Discussion Thread - Roster, Stages, DLC, etc

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Tyaren
Oct 25, 2017
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It's a disgrace really, all the issues of this game combined. DOA was my favorite video game series. I adored it so much that I bought consoles just for it. The original Xbox for DOA3, the Xbox360 for DOA4, the PS4 for Last Round. I would've even bought the XBox One X just to be able to experience DOA6 the best way possible on consoles, but DOA6 isn't worth it. I'm not excited at all anymore. Today I finally preordered the bare minimum version at the retailer of my choice, so I don't need to walk 200 meters more to Gamestop on release day. Nyotengu, whose face and animations they ruined, and the ugly deluxe costumes, which they cut out of a game where male characters have barely any costumes at all, they can keep.
 
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Oct 27, 2017
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Can't say i'm not enjoying this shitstorm, I was already salty and not going to support the game when they cut Leon again but didn't expect this amount of stupidity from TN to sabotage the game as badly as they have to point where even if they do bring him back i still won't buy the game and will simply stick with the F2P version and pay the 4 bucks for him on that at best.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I know this is being discussed on the other thread but it's starting to become a bit of a dumpster fire, anyone knows if they were actually banned from Evo?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Saw someone point this out on twitter

Seems like the 2nd character is likely to be a female character as well. 5 costumes. With all the male DoA characters only getting 2 costumes it seems unlikely that a male guest out of all characters would get a 5 costumes pack
 
Oct 27, 2017
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At this point, I’m considering buying DOA6 vanilla plus season pass 1. Not feeling Deluxe edition Nyotengu and Phase 4 as much as Mai and other female SNK character.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Dead or Alive 6 |OT| Core Values
I will be very disappointed if it's anything other than this.
Probable, but then we would be right back to DoA including characters under 18, unless SNK aged her up between games (wouldn't know since they stopped including ages in KoF quite some time ago, with only one of those cell phone dating sims they made ever specifying Kula as 18).
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah people actually thinking TN isn't going to take the opportunity for the second KoF character being a female are adorable. has DOA5 not taught you guys anything? Wouldn't be surprised if a single dlc character isn't male from this company.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Look, since Namco can't be bothered to make Tekken x Street Fighter, is it too much to ask for someone to actually incorporate Chun-Li into a proper 3D fighting game? Who do I have to kick in the shins for her to appear in DOA6? Because my shin-kicking foot is primed and ready, I tell you.
 
Jul 16, 2018
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Yeah people actually thinking TN isn't going to take the opportunity for the second KoF character being a female are adorable. has DOA5 not taught you guys anything? Wouldn't be surprised if a single dlc character isn't male from this company.
Yeah, dlc wont be a dude. If they do an expansion would be the only way. Just like with 5.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Look, since Namco can't be bothered to make Tekken x Street Fighter, is it too much to ask for someone to actually incorporate Chun-Li into a proper 3D fighting game? Who do I have to kick in the shins for her to appear in DOA6? Because my shin-kicking foot is primed and ready, I tell you.
If Tekken can have Akuma vs Geese

DoA needs Chun vs Mai
 
Oct 25, 2017
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So much for “no guest characters this time”
To be fair, they probably meant in the base rooster, but the communication for this game is all over the place that I can’t keep with everything and they change their statements so much, as evidenced by “we have no season pass plans yet lol”

I also feel the latest announcements was meant to be after the game launched in the original release date before delay
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I wonder if fighters should just stop trying to become a esports game. It killed FF disidia and it didn't helped SC6.

DOA currently is stuck in a limbo. Let's face it, if there hadn't been such a absurd amount of over priced DLC there wouldn't been a DOA6
SC6 did not try to become an esports game. They explicity stated this, they said if it happened it would be cause of the community and not a push for Namco. I think SC6 had some esports potential as the game is really solid at this point (yeah, Mina needs a hard nerf, but other than that game is fine, and they're still tuning balance)

Namco's penny pinching with the TWT has hurt Tekken in the West.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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SC6 did not try to become an esports game. They explicity stated this, they said if it happened it would be cause of the community and not a push for Namco. I think SC6 had some esports potential as the game is really solid at this point (yeah, Mina needs a hard nerf, but other than that game is fine, and they're still tuning balance)


Namco's penny pinching with the TWT has hurt Tekken in the West.
Yeah SC6 isn't without issues but its fun and in general players seem to enjoy it. Bamco is definitely the biggest question mark right now. Even if it gets support how much will it get when they have not been willing to support their actual big fighting game with a bigger price pool


That'd be pretty clever if true, Kula would work (even if not my preferred choice).
Did we get a date for these KOF dlc drops?
Mai in June
 
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Yeah SC6 isn't without issues but its fun and in general players seem to enjoy it. Bamco is definitely the biggest question mark right now. Even if it gets support how much will it get when they have not been willing to support their actual big fighting game with a bigger price pool
I'd rather see the money go into development. Esports only helps the top 1% of players, and I'll never be that. Competitive scenes are kept alive more by the pot monsters than top players- pot monsters aren't drawn into events by pot bonuses- they go because they like the game.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I wonder if fighters should just stop trying to become a esports game. It killed FF disidia and it didn't helped SC6.

DOA currently is stuck in a limbo. Let's face it, if there hadn't been such a absurd amount of over priced DLC there wouldn't been a DOA6
Wait... what?

This is what all the fuss is about? Looks pretty tame.
Especially for Japan. If Wizard hadn't pulled the stream and made that tweet, I don't think anyone would've really cared outside of Twitch chat.

I know this is being discussed on the other thread but it's starting to become a bit of a dumpster fire, anyone knows if they were actually banned from Evo?
I doubt they're banned from Evo, but I can absolutely see Wizard using this as reasoning for not including DOA6 at Evo Worlds.

To be clear, I'm not saying this incident will cause DOA6 to miss an opportunity at being a main game at Evo. I'm saying that Wizard will use this as a reason instead of having to make up some reason why they didn't include DOA6.

Yeah SC6 isn't without issues but its fun and in general players seem to enjoy it. Bamco is definitely the biggest question mark right now. Even if it gets support how much will it get when they have not been willing to support their actual big fighting game with a bigger price pool
Roster, netcode and matchmaking issues aside, SC6 was great until the first patch. Since then it's been pretty bad. The second patch only made things worse to the point where I won't be playing the game any more after a local tournament tomorrow. And this was a game I expected to play until at least Evo. Now I doubt I'll even go to Evo unless I really like MK11.

I'd rather see the money go into development. Esports only helps the top 1% of players, and I'll never be that. Competitive scenes are kept alive more by the pot monsters than top players- pot monsters aren't drawn into events by pot bonuses- they go because they like the game.
Esports helps to keep the game in the limelight. Remove that and no one would be talking about these games after a month or two. It's the sole reason SF5 is still relevant over three years after release. As an example, you don't see many people talking about Gears 4 or MGS5, both of which came out after SF5 and are bigger games from a mainstream sense.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Especially for Japan. If Wizard hadn't pulled the stream and made that tweet, I don't think anyone would've really cared outside of Twitch chat.
I think there would have still been a kotaku article and similar but with a bit different topic and just focused on DoA showing its still DoA in the most direct way as opposed to the DoA presentatiom being too lewd for Evo so the stream had to be cut.

Roster, netcode and matchmaking issues aside, SC6 was great until the first patch. Since then it's been pretty bad. The second patch only made things worse to the point where I won't be playing the game any more after a local tournament tomorrow. And this was a game I expected to play until at least Evo. Now I doubt I'll even go to Evo unless I really like MK11.
Understandable as you play Azwel who got hit with too many changes too quickly. I wanna believe right now that with the recent survey as well they will course correct some of the changes made in general especially the online shit. A patch with the next character and then just let people play the game for a bit
 
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Oct 27, 2017
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Esports helps to keep the game in the limelight. Remove that and no one would be talking about these games after a month or two. It's the sole reason SF5 is still relevant over three years after release. As an example, you don't see many people talking about Gears 4 or MGS5, both of which came out after SF5 and are bigger games from a mainstream sense.
Evo, CEO, Combo Breaker would still exist. Folks would talk about the games there. You don't need 100 "pros" in shirts filled with ads to keep your game relevant.

As for the SC6 patch, one thing that was mentioned on stream last night was that JP and US tierlists for SC6 are very different- JPN rates Mitsu a lot higher, and Groh and Talim a lot lower as one example. This explains some of the stuff in the patch we thought was questionable.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Understandable as you play Azwel who got hit with too many changes too quickly. I wanna believe right now that with the recent survey as well they will course correct some of the changes made in general especially the online shit. A patch with the next character and then just let people play the game for a bit
Azwel is definitely a sore spot for me, but balancing around online play, messing with attacks that have been in the game for decades... stuff like that also makes me want to put the game down. Just the fact that it had two major balance adjustments in three months is ridiculous.

Evo, CEO, Combo Breaker would still exist. Folks would talk about the games there. You don't need 100 "pros" in shirts filled with ads to keep your game relevant.

As for the SC6 patch, one thing that was mentioned on stream last night was that JP and US tierlists for SC6 are very different- JPN rates Mitsu a lot higher, and Groh and Talim a lot lower as one example. This explains some of the stuff in the patch we thought was questionable.
Other than Evo, I don't think any of these tournaments would be as big as they are without the Capcom Pro Tour. It's not about players in jerseys at all.

Japanese and US players generally think differently about tier lists. The problem is not only who the devs are listening to, but also the rapid frequency of major balance patches. They should've known better after the first patch killed SC5. Fix any game-breaking bugs, but let the game rock for a bit before making major changes, especially in regard to new characters.