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Coronavirus Discussion Thread (See Staff Post) [UPDATE: WHO declares global emergency. See threadmarks]
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The twitter summary is not enough for you?
"Overwhelmed hospital staff runs short of virus test kits and hospital beds as authorities urgently seek donations of critical medical supplies".
This is Chinese media, if the government didn't want to story to run, it wouldn't, and they have quotes from government officials inside too.
And more broadly, I really don't see anyone in the Chinese government saying or acting like this is a simple situation that they got under control, like that reporter claimed. I see the exact opposite.
Maybe they're lying and they know they have 10x infected and 10x deaths in Wuhan, I don't know, I don't think you know either, feel free to believe what you want, I have friends there so I'm not gonna be rooting for worst case scenario.
I need to check out of this thread (and others like it across the internet). It's legitimately giving me anxiety. Stay safe, Era fam.
They built one in Beijing in a week during the SARS outbreak.
I'm nervous. I'm in illinois, close to the Wisconsin border, northeast. I had to go to the hospital yesterday for something unrelated. There is either one or two cases in illinois so far.
Our local news here in Chicago just sai
Chill. The one case was in Hoffman Estates, not Chicago.
Chill. The one case was in Hoffman Estates, not Chicago.
I think it's important to remember things got out of control in China because they underestimated the spread of the virus. There shouldn't be any problem abroad as long as every other country treats each new positive case with extreme care.
On one hand I agree with this, on the other it's concerning if people can go for one two weeks without showing symptoms and be contagious, and individual outbreaks get too large before anyone notices them.
I was happy to hear that here in Canada 5 people were screened and tested negative.
You would think after different scenarios with other health issues in the last few years....they would be better prepared or take whatever the next outbreak was seriously...not a good look.
Hopefully they'll be able to contain it like the rest and hopefully be prepared for a potential future one because these type of incidents just keep occurring every few years.
I take it may be due to the seafood/animals in the area - at least according to some reports.
Vietnam finally has their first cases :
Yes, that's the main concern for plenty. I'm glad to hear most potential infections have turned out negative. It means the authorities are actually doing their job screening everyone. Better safe than sorry.
It's puzzling to realize they're going through this situation again. According to some reports, the Chinese government wasn't aware of the potential for an outbreak in Wuhan due to local censorship. Many sources mention there was fear of repression in the population right at beginning, which is when the authorities should've reacted to prevent this outcome.
I think the world did learn a lot after SARS, A-H1N1 and MERS, and that's why we keep hearing more and more reports of people testing negative once they're suspect of carrying the virus. They are not going to take the same risks again. It would be quite troubling if we weren't hearing anything at all at this point.
Thanks for the kind words.I'm in Shanghai, but my relatives and friends are living in Wuhan. It really is scary time. Fortunately they already stored enough food before the quarantine. They haven't walk out the door for days.
The situation is so complicated that I can't summarize the feel of the people. One of my friends in Wuhan,wept during our online chatting, because the government send her father, a low-level bureaucrat, to check the Hygienic condition of residential area , door-to-door. And her father is not allowed to wear integral epidemic prevention suit , only face mask, because the higher bureaucrat feared the suit might "Infuriate the residents." My friend felt so hopeless and I didn't know what to say to comfort her.
Xi Jinping said nothing about this in his new year's speech. The mayor of Wuhan vanished. The Wuhan government lose its normal function. That's the reason why some hospitals had to use social media to call for help. People have to self-organized to save themselves. For example, taxi driver voluntarily take the doctors to work, because the government are stupid enough shut down the public transport system without backing up plans for doctors and patients. Overall, It's not looking good, but good people are in the fight together. Proud of our people, ashamed of our bureaucrats.
Until 23th: youngest victim is 48, oldest is 89. And most of them have previous history of chronic diseases, such as cirrhosis, myxoma, hypertension, diabetes, coronary heart disease, etc.
Someone else correct me but can't the virus spread and someone be mildly affected like the fiu? Hospitals are filled and maybe those with mild symptoms are recovering at home so the death rate is just missing those mild cases.
The Wuhan government fucked up. So fucking badly.
Please stay safe. My thoughts are with everyone in your country. I really hope other countries start sending help and supplies your way.
My parents will be coming home to Canada from Hong Kong in a few days. I'm just counting down the days until they get on the plane and hopefully can steer clear from this whole thing. My long term worry is for my sister though who now lives in HK. I really hope the hospitals and government take the lessons learned from SARS to heart.
Just so you know, most people can't see the full article. So when doctors say they don't have protective gear and you're like 'China isn't denying this, look at this article, China isn't hiding anything'. We can only see the following.
Doesn't quite match but maybe there's more context within the article?
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I haven't been able to keep up with everything concerning this virus but have they pin pointed which animal this virus jumped from? I'm hearing a snake or bat? Does this have any validity?
Quite surreal to see 春晚 proceed as if NCOV was no big deal.
BTW we did have a 36 year old die yesterday:
It's concerning that he spent 2 weeks in hospital and still ended up dying.
Respect for the medical staff for doing this.
However, I feel like that this shouldn't be happening to the professionals who among us are the most well equipped and educated to deal with this.
Did they lack proper protection equipment? Was that equipment not used early enough because we didn't know this was a new virus? Or is infection inevitable no matter how well we protect ourselves?
I'm pretty sure it's airborne like a cold and it's hard to protect against that with normal equipment. Plus nobody has any kind of immunity to it.
.......... you live within like 20-30 minutes from me if you are a border dweller in northeast Illinois lol. Small world
Ideally, PPE should be changed between each patient encounter to minimize the risk of spreading disease but think about how many people are probably going to these ERs/hospitals. It's not at all a stretch to think they don't have enough supplies.
Our hospital regularly runs low on flu testing kits during a busy flu season.
I see, that confirms alot of what i have been reading from a nurse in one of the hospitals in Wuhan in terms of the general infrastructure problems. I know it doesn't mean much from some person on the internet, but we're all pulling for you and your family/friends safety and well being, hope everything goes safely for you!
My brother was telling me about a recent visit to the hospital in Ningbo for food poisoning, and while he was there a dude came in with a nail in his head and blood dripping everywhere.
They took a while to get him checked in and meanwhile people were sitting in the chair he sat in with blood on it, getting it all over their hands and tracking it on their shoes, until a janitor came by and "cleaned it up" by pushing the blood on the floor around with a straw broom.
so hopefully if larger, well-run hospitals are sending suspected patients to smaller hospitals, they're managed better than the anecdotes I've been told that inspire very little confidence.
They took a while to get him checked in and meanwhile people were sitting in the chair he sat in with blood on it, getting it all over their hands and tracking it on their shoes, until a janitor came by and "cleaned it up" by pushing the blood on the floor around with a straw broom.
so hopefully if larger, well-run hospitals are sending suspected patients to smaller hospitals, they're managed better than the anecdotes I've been told that inspire very little confidence.
Certainly worrying but SARS had a R0 of 4 so I don't think this should be that surprising?
Edit: Also, the number he's referenced was revised to a 2.5, which this guy acknowledged. This tweet is fear mongering. Ebola's R0 is 2 and it's not considered to be that contagious.
Sincerely thanks. It will be a long battle for us.
Just today, Shanghai announced that the city enters Public Health Emergencies Level-1, which is the highest and most dangerous level. Public transportation in and out of Shanghai are partially shutdown. So Shanghai's situation is not looking good either. Guess I gonna stored some foods too.
Damn that's worrisome. I hope they analysis the death cause of the young patient thoroughly.
About 春晚，well, nobody expected they cancel it. But the worst part is, they added an one-minute segment, a stupid poem-reading about Wuhan to "send encouraging messages" .It was the most ridiculous Stalin-Soviet joke ever.
Same here. I travel a lot so this is going to be interesting.
Stay safe everyone. I'm happy China takes this very Seriously and is acting with swift measures.
How does this impact schools in China? Are kids off for New Year right now? Are the schools shut down? I haven't heard anything about this aspect of life.
Asthma does put you at risk for more frequent and sometimes severe bacterial and viral infections. However, most, if not all of the cases so far have been from people who were directly in Wuhan or very close to someone who was in Wuhan like a spouse.
3 infected 10 km from where I'm am, my wife and son are in China for Chinese New year. (the traveled there end of last year)
Take all the precaution you can and make sure you loved one do the same, but in the end one life go forward.
Exotic animals and bushmeat are the issues. I am kinda surprise there hasn't been an emerging virus on South America due to cutting down the amazon and more contact with animals there.
Have lots of family that live in Hoffman Estates. Didn't know this.
I hope it all works out for your friends and relatives. Stay safe.
uhm not a doctor, is harder to get the flu in a tripical climate.
The infected number is going to be far higher than these figures, because of how mild symptoms are in a lot of cases.
Yeah I know. China still seems to be heavily involved in the eating and selling of exotic animals. The government needs to crackdown on that.
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